Banksy strikes again!

moulesy
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edited June 2016 in General Chat #1

Very nice story on tonight's local (and national) news about a primary school in Bristol which had run a competition for the chilren to choose names for the school "houses". One of the winners chose the name Banksy after the street artist, local boy made good.

How did he repay them?

Well he went in over half term and painted a mural on one of the bare school building walls and it will potentially be worth a fortune!

I'm not always very keen on so called street art, much of which s inferior graffitti, but it has to be said the best of it certainly brightens up some of our drab urban spaces.

This certainly delighted the children and will maybe inspire one of them to follow in his footsteps.

The only problem for the school now is how to protect the painting - apparently the wall was one whichwas normally used for kicking footballs against!  Happy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

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  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #2

    Why should one person get away with vandalism just because he is "famous" when if a group of kids broke in to the school and spray painted the wall ,the police would have been called 

    please explain why "he" should be treated as a hero ??

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #3

    Oh dear! I thought I was passing on a good hews story - that was pretty much the way it was reported and the positive effect it had had on the children and community in a pretty socially deprived area of Bristol.

    Still, everyone is entitled to their opinion; it's just a shame that what started out as a positive can be so quickly soured. Sad

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2016 #4

    I think it is a marvellous tribute. Banksy's art is very much of it's time, reflecting real lives and social change. Well done the lad who came up with the idea, and well done Banksy for honouring his roots. I love his work. Hate graffiti, but the skill involved in what Banksy does is way beyond most individuals.Happy

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #5

    Are you saying we should keep our opinions to our selfs ??

     

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #6

    Not at all, HD, that's why I said "everyone is entitled to their opinion" - and I meant it!

    Maybe there will be more reaction - positive or negative - as more people see the report on tonight's news or in tomorrow's papers. It was only first reported on this evening's early news bulletins. Happy

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2016 #7

    I wish I owned one! Happy

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2016 #8

    Art is in the eye of the beholder! In my opinion he produces wonderful art! But one man's art is another man's graffiti! Who is to say either way?

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #9

    Spraying paint on walls of public buildings is vandalism. There have been loads of young people prosecuted for doing exactly that. It is hoped that this vandal will be treated equally to the other criminals.

    K Cool

     

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited June 2016 #10

    I love Banksy art work , it's straight to the point , the younger generation understand it to , he always hits home with his choice of subject he never fails to impress ,

    as for graffiti I don't think so, todays art work at Bristol starts with a young child drawing a little square house, and all of a sudden street gang playing with burning tyres ...no longer an innocent child  

    yes his work is worth money and the school needs money he may have left them the ability to raise funds

    well done Banksy you did it again Smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #11

    He left a letter at the school and it was reported that one sentence said "....it's easier to obtain forgiveness than permission".

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2016 #12

    He is so famous but elusive that if He'd have attempted to get permission a 3 ring Circus would have been created-result would be His anonymity would be lost. Everyone involved seemed honoured by His work! it lifted the school to a higher status. In a sometimes
    dark world people like Banksy bring light by their genius. His creativity & hard hitting work makes a statement & is very deep. I personally love itHappy

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2016 #13

    There is imagination as well as social statement in his work, which is more than can be said for 99.9% 0f daubings and sprayings that are carried out by the less creative sections of society.

  • Oneputt
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    edited June 2016 #14

    Listening to a programme and the experts said the painting(?) could be worth up to half a million.  A real dilemma for the school!

    I wonder if he came out in the open and put his work on canvas if it would a. have the same effect and b. have the same value

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #15

    The  Arty types always try to justify as fine art what others think as a waste of space.  Like a pile of bricks on the floor or half an animal in preserving liquid. Vandalism. etc.

    If that vandal who spray paints public building was to put any painting talent to the test, he/she/they would produce a painting on canvas and display it for the public to evaluate.

    K Cool

    He is only famous because he has never been caught vandalising buildings  and his identity has not been established Happy

     

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #16

    Interesting to see the variety of views his work produces. I guess the acid test is "what does the local communtiy think?" and in that there can be no doubt that he's greatly appreciated and the mural has been welcomed pretty much without exception.

    It's also an interesting point about what his work would be worth if pinted on canvas - more or less than, say, a Jackson Pollock spodge painting or an Yves Klein plain blue canvas.

    Beauty, as they say is in the eye of the beholder, as is appreciation!
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  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #17

    Also ,who is going to pay for all the legal wrangles as to who owns it and how to preseve it, keeping it safe , is this money going to come out of school funds ????

    If i broke in to our local school and spray painted the wall and called it art ,would i get away with it ???

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #18

    Surely all that matters here is that it has done some good for the school. Let's be positive about it and be happy for them.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #19

    HD - what legal wrangles? Have you seen/read the news story? The school has a letter written by banksy confirming they own it and that the children can add to it if they want to (doubt they'll be doing that!)

    They're going to cover it with some sort of transparent screen to protect it.

    Everybody in the local community is happy -  I appreciate that you don't like what has been done - but what more do you want to make it a "good news" story?

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #20

    If one vandal gets away with spray painting public buildings and calling it "Art" that will encourage many others to follow the trend.---- It is now happening in cities all over the UK 

    Who says that the vandalism created by Banksy was done by one person.-- It is just as likely that the spray painting is being done by a gang with a liking for using spray cans.  

    Vandalism is vandalism no excuses. !!!!!

    Cool

    Interesting piece in the MOL of June 7th

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463755/Who-Banksy-New-Yorker-pictures-men-working-elusive-artists-works.html

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #21

    HD - what legal wrangles? Have you seen/read the news story? The school has a letter written by banksy confirming they own it and that the children can add to it if they want to (doubt they'll be doing that!)

    They're going to cover it with some sort of transparent screen to protect it.

    Everybody in the local community is happy -  I appreciate that you don't like what has been done - but what more do you want to make it a "good news" story?

    Well said, Moulesy. We all seem to view it as a good thing with the exception of a 'group' of two. I wonder if they would view it differently if it was a local celebrity artist helping a school in their areas?

    Well done Banksy and the school - good luck to you.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #22

    I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that some folk will call it vandalism, but that's OK, each to their own.

    What I think is indisputable though is that the local community are overwhelmingly happy and surely that's what matters.

    Of course if folk prefer plain walls in city centres and on public buildings that's their prerogative, but many of these public works of art have become huge tourist attractions bringing in income to the local area and adding character and colour to otherwise
    pretty drab surroundings.

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #23

    HD - what legal wrangles? Have you seen/read the news story? The school has a letter written by banksy confirming they own it and that the children can add to it if they want to (doubt they'll be doing that!)

    They're going to cover it with some sort of transparent screen to protect it.

    Everybody in the local community is happy -  I appreciate that you don't like what has been done - but what more do you want to make it a "good news" story?

    Well said, Moulesy. We all seem to view it as a good thing with the exception of a 'group' of two. I wonder if they would view it differently if it was a local celebrity artist helping a school in their areas?

    Well done Banksy and the school - good luck to you.

    So now i'm put in a "group" for having a viewSad, no wonder i do most of my posting elsewhere

    Dont see where i have attacted others for their view, but i will leave it there , bye

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #24

    HD - what legal wrangles? Have you seen/read the news story? The school has a letter written by banksy confirming they own it and that the children can add to it if they want to (doubt they'll be doing that!)

    They're going to cover it with some sort of transparent screen to protect it.

    Everybody in the local community is happy -  I appreciate that you don't like what has been done - but what more do you want to make it a "good news" story?

    Well said, Moulesy. We all seem to view it as a good thing with the exception of a 'group' of two. I wonder if they would view it differently if it was a local celebrity artist helping a school in their areas?

    Well done Banksy and the school - good luck to you.

    So now i'm put in a "group" for having a viewSad, no wonder i do most of my posting elsewhere

    Dont see where i have attacted others for their view, but i will leave it there , bye

    Write your comments here... Their group  just don't like individual posters having opinions different from their own. 

    I can see your frustration H/D, .Best to ignore them !!....

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  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #25

    K - I do wonder why you keep making statements like that? I've made it perfectly clear that I accept that HD and you have a different view to mine about this. You are both entitled to express that - perhaps you could extend the same courtesy to me, rather
    than suggesting that I  "don't like individual posters having opinions different" than my own.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #26

    Who has attacked you, Husky? Not me and nobody that I can see. You certainly don't seem your usual self - are you not well?

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #27

    I see nothing wrong in different posters posting differing views. This is natural in discussion forums. 

    Just accept that and there need be no need to try and win. That can only lead to arguments and some people becoming upset.

    This is a friendly discussion forum --- not a debating arena.

    There are many other forums which encourage grown-up debates.

    Allow each person to have there own opinion.

    I dont in any way think that vandalism and grafity directed at public buildings and elsewhere by anybody is acceptable - thats my view ,  others may difffer in their opinion and I always accept that. 

    K

     ps moulesy has been particularly polite and non combatatant on this thread -- well done M. 

    What did you do with the "real" Moulsey

    K CoolWinkHappy

     

     

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2016 #28

    I'm speechless! Surprised

  • ValDa
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    edited June 2016 #29

    I love Banksy art work , it's straight to the point , the younger generation understand it to , he always hits home with his choice of subject he never fails to impress ,

    as for graffiti I don't think so, todays art work at Bristol starts with a young child drawing a little square house, and all of a sudden street gang playing with burning tyres ...no longer an innocent child  

    yes his work is worth money and the school needs money he may have left them the ability to raise funds

    well done Banksy you did it again Smile

    I like it too, and if he school have invited him to paint a wall, then that's hardly vandalism.  Graffiti-type art is now a popular thing, and friend's son makes his living from Graffiti paintings - usual on internal walls in places like galleries and pubs,
    but sometimes on a door to a building.  He won't paint any outside walls except for sheds in someone's back garden.  He makes a decent living these days!

    People didn't like the impressionists at one time, but how we would all love to own a Van Goch, or a Monet these days.

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #30

    There is imagination as well as social statement in his work, which is more than can be said for 99.9% 0f daubings and sprayings that are carried out by the less creative sections of society.

    Deep!