Anthem for the English ?

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  • Bugs
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    edited January 2016 #32

    The topic is "Anthem for the English".......Cool

    And the suggestion is that it should be more "rousing" - with examples given.

    Can't see why you think that is somehow off-topic?

  • briantimber
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    edited January 2016 #33

    Can't see why you think that England would adopt a foreign anthem as their own. 

    Tha OP didn't suggest a rousing anthem , that suggestion was in the last three posts. These sort of posts tend to lead to silly comments which in turn take a post off topic.....Cool

  • Bugs
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    edited January 2016 #34

    Can't see why you think that England would adopt a foreign anthem as their own. 

    Tha OP didn't suggest a rousing anthem , that suggestion was in the last three posts. These sort of posts tend to lead to silly comments which in turn take a post off topic.....Cool

    No-one suggested adopting a foreign anthem. Examples were quoted of foreign anthems which are "rousing" simply for illustration purposes.

    As for the rest of your post above - interesting view you have there, but my experience has been that "silly comments" seldom require a catalyst other than the people making them and a few chums..

    Anyway - back to the topic in hand. Personally, I'm not keen on any of the "usual suspects" being suggested as possible anthems. I would like to see consideration of a brand new tune which would have the benefit of having no historical or organisational links.

    Bugs

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2016 #35

    Doesn't have to be new music for me, just something that truly raises the spirits. Someone somewhere will be gifted enough to add new words of an appropriate nature to a decent tune. (In the past, lots of hymns were conceived and changed in this way.) Don't
    think it should be a hymn though, needs to be more up to date. Most of the use will be at sporting events, so something a good crowd can belt out would be best.

  • brue
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    edited January 2016 #36

    Something like Heart of Oak is rousing but the Navy have got in there first..Smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #37

    You want something that makes the hair on you neck stand up which is why "Land of Hope and Glory" has my endorsement and for the avoidance of doubt is the equal of "Austria" ( Never quite understood why it's the German anthem)

  • ABM
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    edited January 2016 #38

    Good  Idea  CY  but  I  don't  like  the  hair  on  MY  neck  standing  up Surprised ==>  that  could  strangle  me 'cos  it's  another 
    6  weeks  til  hair  cut  time Wink  

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #39

    I have the BBC news app on my iPad when glancing through a few days ago there was a brilliant article regarding the anthem for England   It gave an excellent insight on all the songs that have been mentioned on here and why they would not be right.

    they explain in detail the meaning of each verse ect in each of the short listed song / hymns and why it could offend and so on besides them having no longer any real meaning to England as it is now not a century ago, for these reasons it seems that it may
    be best for a new song / hymn anthem be composed 

  • Bugs
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    edited January 2016 #40

    I agree Ruby.

    I think we need a fresh start with a tune that is more representative of the UK as it is now.

    Bugs

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #41

    I'm sorry but far too many Brave men and women have made the ultimate sacrifice in its, and our Countries defence, for us to just to dismiss our National Anthem as irrelavent. So I for one will never accept any replacement for our National Anthem.

    I regret but I regard any such proposal as nothing less than treachery to the memory of such brave souls, be they English Welsh or Scottish or serving under any of the flags of our Commonwealth Nations. I am ashamed that such a proposal might have been made,, and discussed with such levity!

    God save the Queen!

    TF

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #42

    They are not changing the National Athem , God Save The Queen.  It's an anthem for The English for sporting events nobody intends changing the National Anthem that we all sing and respect at international levels such as G B teams 

  • SUBBY
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    edited January 2016 #43

    as I am a socialist I don't sing the national anthem on principle also because it is boring I am also totally non religious

  • dennisd
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    edited January 2016 #44

    How about "Roll out the barrel"? a catchy tune and quite relevant to some people in a lot of ways Smile

  • Metheven
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    edited January 2016 #45

    Anything by the 'Wurzels' would be appropriate

  • taffyY
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    edited January 2016 #46

    I'm sorry but far too many Brave men and women have made the ultimate sacrifice in its, and our Countries defence, for us to just to dismiss our National Anthem as irrelavent. So I for one will never accept any replacement for our National Anthem.

    I regret but I regard any such proposal as nothing less than treachery to the memory of such brave souls, be they English Welsh or Scottish or serving under any of the flags of our Commonwealth Nations. I am ashamed that such a proposal might have been made,, and discussed with such levity!

    God save the Queen!

    TF

    I think that you have missed the point TF?  No-one is suggesting that we dump 'God Save the Queen' as the BRITISH National anthem just to have an additional anthem for England as we have in Wales, Scotland and Ireland!

  • TheAdmiral
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    edited January 2016 #47

    "The Hokey Kokey" as suggested by Giles Brandreth

    Admiral

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #48

    there is only one ...."We are the champions" by Queen ,that way it keeps the link..........................

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2016 #49

    "The Hokey Kokey" as suggested by Giles Brandreth

    Admiral

    Aren't you getting confused with the Referendum?

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #50

    I think that I do now understand your point, but apart from internal to Britain games dont quite understand when it would be used?  What other Countries uses such regional anthems?  If a German team came over here would they use for example an East German
    anthem if it applied or the French a Basque one?  The Australians A Northern Territories one?

    Or is it just another silly game, in which case How about "Where be that Blackbird be?" a nice Somerset one!

    WorriedWorriedTFEmbarassedEmbarassed

  • taffyY
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    edited January 2016 #51

    You obviously have not watched Wales, Scotland and Ireland playing rugby overseas singing their own National Anthems with gusto TF!! Laughing

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #52

    Lots of athletes competing in there own individual / team all over the world , Welsh , Scottish , Irish , sing their own anthems across the world.  Only when teams are competing as Great Britain do they then sing the Natioal Anthem
    , so I think it's only fair the English have there's ,so how about.  

    Always look on the bright side of life 

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #53

    I still like 'Where be that backbird be!"

    TF

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #54

    I still like 'Where be that backbird be!"

    TF

    Write your comments here...can't place this T F , can you sing it Laughing

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2016 #55

    Why not a song with England or English in the title -----Like -----"In an English Country Garden".  nice gentle lyrics.

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #56

    Used to be a favourite in our old Somerset Pubs and skittle teams!  Sadly I can assure you that if you heard me singing (Anything) you would wish to just curl up and hibernate!

    TFFrown

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #57

    Used to be a favourite in our old Somerset Pubs and skittle teams!  Sadly I can assure you that if you heard me singing (Anything) you would wish to just curl up and hibernate!

    TFFrown

    Write your comments here...Somerset pubs & skittle alleys ! Undecided Sounds like something the wurzels would sing Laughing

  • TheAdmiral
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    edited January 2016 #58

    Why not "Roll out the Barrel"

    Admiral

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #59

    Actually I thik that they did!

    TF

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #60

    Just Checked it on the Internet, - My memory very slightly awry, - The Actual title as sung by the Worsels was "Where be that Blackbird To?"  But we in South East Somerset certainly used "Be" and not "To"

    TF

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2016 #61

    Why not a song with England or English in the title -----Like -----"In an English Country Garden".  nice gentle lyrics.

    LaughingLaughingLaughing

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