Pricing
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The figures show that the increases vary from site to site and are clearly based on increased costs as incurred. The clubs costs do not neccessarily increase at the same rate as inflation. It is anticipated inflation rates will increase this year and in
fact on some estimates these increases reflect this.Unless you also check price increases for alternative sites and compare just quoting the clubs figures is meaningless and proves nothing. You may actually find the alternatives are increasing prices by more than the club and going elsewhere would cost you
more. It might not be more expensive but you simply do not know without the information but given the occupancy level at most of the sites listed then it will not affect them as there are plenty more who will take the bookings. Given these sites are almost
always full you could say the club is underpricing these sites.Good post
Common sense way of evaluating prices shown in this post.
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The figures show that the increases vary from site to site and are clearly based on increased costs as incurred.
They certainly show that they vary from site to site, but is there any evidence that the figures are based on increased costs as incurred? I agree that price rises have to be viewed in respect of prices in the industry as a whole. However, I do feel that the CC is fond of the smoke and mirrors approach, and that required price rises could be much more open in there format.
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The figures show that the increases vary from site to site and are clearly based on increased costs as incurred.
They certainly show that they vary from site to site, but is there any evidence that the figures are based on increased costs as incurred? I agree that price rises have to be viewed in respect of prices in the industry as a whole. However,
I do feel that the CC is fond of the smoke and mirrors approach, and that required price rises could be much more open in there format.Steve, i couldnt see the direct correlation, either....
the club has just extended 'peak' (fiscal creep, its called when the Chancellor does this.....) and cranked up prices generally, probably based more on what the local market will sustain, rather than costs based.... ?
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saying that a site is half empty in November really proves nothing. Are the sites around it full?
That sites are not full in November says nothing about prices but everything about the folks who have more sense than go caravanning then
Whats wrong with going away then ,if you perpare for it theres no problem
OK,AD, iv'e got no sense
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UK is a high cost country. Much better value in Spain, for example. OK, we can afford to pay CC prices, and it won't put us off, but many will be put off either because they can't afford it or as a matter of principle.
A quick comparison with last year at Coniston shows it's gone up a couple of quid for 4 nights in May. I checked the C&CC at 2 Keswick sites for the same time, (concession) and one was £2 dearer and one £2 cheaper for the same 4 days. Make of that what you will.
At least the CC is a membership organisation, there's no shareholders, so any profit goes back into the business. The question is, how efficiently is it run?
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Just had chance to look at the 2017 prices, was surprised to notice that if we were to stay at Treamble Valley for the same 8 nights next year in October and we did this year it would be £10.40 cheaper.
Could be a mistake I suppose .
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Just had chance to look at the 2017 prices, was surprised to notice that if we were to stay at Treamble Valley for the same 8 nights next year in October and we did this year it would be £10.40 cheaper.
Could be a mistake I suppose . Looks as though they did not increase the price for half term this year. So a positive for the CC. If as you say it is not a mistake.
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Pricing by any retail business is always a bit of a minefield. The object of the exercise is to maximuse profit whithout scaring away potential customers.
The CC is trying to achieve this by their current pricing policy. It may be beneficial to some , but others may think that perhaps on some sites it is a step too far.
Fortunately the choice is in each individual customer's hands. --- If you agree with the CC, pay your money and continue to buy their product. If you disagree -- buy the product elsewhere. !!
Cheers ..... K
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We stayed on more commercial sites than CC sites this year as in many cases the commercial site was cheaper and offerred better faculities and in some cases was better located for visitingt he area and not stucj away down some back road. On one commercial
site we had to cut short our break and gave them 24 hours notice.They gave us a FULL refund with no quibbles for the nights that we were not on the site. No black marks or snotty letters so we will return to that site again in 2017. Now that is the way to do business!
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saying that a site is half empty in November really proves nothing. Are the sites around it full?
That sites are not full in November says nothing about prices but everything about the folks who have more sense than go caravanning then
Whats wrong with going away then ,if you perpare for it theres no problem
OK,AD, iv'e got no sense
We've just had three nights at Chatsworth. Wet but great fun. Alde heating on full, books to read, tv to watch, walk the dog when it stopped raining, use the van's facilities. We love camping out of the main season. We go prepared for all weather so boots and waterproofs are always at the ready
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it always amazes me how these 'tea drinkers' at HQ manage to keep making a profit year after year
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Well, I guess that taking £48 from each of 375,000 members (£18 million) would give the tea drinkers a nice cushion to sit back on.
Also, the CC (and the C&CC) are in a unique position, with a database of people that they can sell expensive foreign travel, insurance etc to.
People often say on here that commercial sites (often with only a handfull of sites, or even only one site) can afford to offer more reasonable site fees because they use restaurants, bars etc to subsidise the site fees.
Then why can't the CC do the same as the commercials and use all their other income streams (and the membership fees) to help subidise the site fees? Especially given that they are supposed to be a club that works for its members and is supposed to encourage the pastime of caravanning?
How come the CC are right at the top end of the pricing scale? And how come they need to apply inflation busting increases year on year? Resulting in sites less than half full.
Can only be poor management.
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The only way that CC will sit up and take notice is when everyone stops using the sites. That is not going to happen lets be realistic. New members join every year, some may stay for awhile some may leave after one year but its still revenue to the club.
I suspect that over half the membership only remain members for the add on products and the ability to use CL's. I suppose there are the diehards that cannot or will not be bothered to look elsewhere because the club has made it sooooooo easy to make a booking
online, not forgetting the ability to cancel at a whim without penalty. Prices will always go up its a fact of life, why the club do it the way they do is a mystery to all but the people in puzzle palace (HO)0 -
Ahhh....the moaning about prices again...
We've just come back from 4 nights on a club site in the North of England. Upon arrival (on a weekday in November) it was in my estimate 50% full. The snow fell, but as the weekend arrived more & more vans rolled in until it appeared to me to be about
75% full. Thats on freezing cold November days......Why on earth should or would the club reduce prices....?? They can obviously fill sites virtually year round. Those that arent full then I guess it's more of an issue of wrong location or facilities than price.....
If only all those that came on here moaning that they are going to stay on commercial sites actually would do so it would be easier to get a pitch!
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Well, I guess that taking £48 from each of 375,000 members (£18 million) would give the tea drinkers a nice cushion to sit back on.
But your post appears to imply that the club does this without your knowlegde or by using some trick or some sort of force? Let me educate you. You DO NOT have to pay this membership fee at all. isn't that amazing? The club offers you a product for a memebership
fee of £48. You choose to pay it. By paying it you 'agree' to their business model.Resulting in sites less than half full
I really do admire your misleading and inaccurate quotes. Post Truth
I believe is the new word for being economical with the truth as we used to say. When are sites half full? Oh you mean your visit to
one site last week in Novemeber. If you look at the recent thread some were complaining that sites were full a weekend ago. People complain that they can't get in at peak times? Sites half empty (or indeed half full) indeed!0 -
Ahhh....the moaning about prices again...
We've just come back from 4 nights on a club site in the North of England. Upon arrival (on a weekday in November) it was in my estimate 50% full. The snow fell, but as the weekend arrived more & more vans rolled in until it appeared to me to be about
75% full. Thats on freezing cold November days......Why on earth should or would the club reduce prices....?? They can obviously fill sites virtually year round. Those that arent full then I guess it's more of an issue of wrong location or facilities than price.....
If only all those that came on here moaning that they are going to stay on commercial sites actually would do so it would be easier to get a pitch!
I'm really sorry you must be mistaken. Ian says sites are half empty!
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How come the CC are right at the top end of the pricing scale? And how come they need to apply inflation busting increases year on year? Resulting in sites less than half full.
Can only be poor management.
I think the problem is we do not know what the price rise overall is. Is it inflation busting? Some sites kept the same, some changed pricing band periods, some sites increased prices by varying amounts. All designed just to confuse in my opinion. Why can't
they just have an across the board increase and keep everything else the same. At least then everyone would know if they go to the same site this year it will cost them x% more than last year.0 -
Same old same old really!
The perception that CC prices are at or near the top end of the spectrum is of course entirely erroneous! Take any CC site in virtually any part of the country and you can find other sites nearby both cheaper and more expensive. The answer is surely, as
K says above, if, having done your research, chosen your location and then chosen your site, if you think the CC is too expensive look for an alternative.One example of an area we know well, North Cornwall - Haven Perran Sands for 2 adults and 2 dogs, HS, EHU and awning for 7 nights in July comes out (after 10% discount) a touch under £480. Anyone like to find out what Treamble Valley costs for the same period?
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Don't know to be honest - just entered details out of curiosity, looked at total price and by the time I'd picked myself up off the ground I couldn't bring myself to look any further!
Out of curiosity I just looked, £1 per dog per night max of 2
I just put in dates, chose pitch type etc, said no dogs........something is odd.
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Out of interest I had a look, I can get 7 nights from 8th July on an extra large electric grass pitch for apparently £183.75.
Or on a hardstanding for £236.25.
Both with awning. 2 adults.
Those are very expensive dogs!!
Try 22 July, start of school holidays. I'll check again to make sure I haven't put something stupid in!
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