Hard standing booking trial
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From a financial point of view all the CC need to decide is will they loose more bookings by leaving things as they are, or by allowing pitch type booking. Personally I think it is the latter, so we are very unlikely to see pitch type booking rolled out.
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I think that either the CC should bring in the ability to book a pitch type (or even a specific pitch) or not do anything at all and leave it as 'first come, first served'.
At the moment, we have a system where you cannot book a pitch type, but run the risk of being told on arrival that you must take a grass pitch, because the hardstandings are reserved for twin axles and motorhomes.
This system of giving preferential treatment to certain members does not seem to fit well with the idea that al members are equal.
Either have a booking system or have first come, first served - the current system isn't working or fair.
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
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nothing as far as member booking change is concerned, so our choice of pitch is still going to be down to whats available when we arrive...
So we must all clamour to arrive at the barrier exactly at 12:00 noon (as to arrive earlier is ungentlemanly - but effective) to have that choice available to us, and rush around the site once admitted at high speed to review and select a pitch.
Anyone looking at this from outside would see that the Club booking system is actually creating some major problems elsewhere. When computers were developed we thought they were to be our servants. Bonkers!
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
except that, if we believe the club, the clasification of the pitch into awning or non awning is due to the fire rules of having a 3m gap between outfits. A non awning pitch only allows a car + van to keep that 3m gap. If you put a car + van + awning (which would probably fit) onto a non awning pitch you bite into that 3m gap.
I'm really surprised you didn't know that BB?
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
Awning pitxhes are a totally different situation. I do not want to use grass on sites which have hard standing - yes I can do if I have to. Some however may feel reliant on an awning because the need to use it as sleeping accomodation or for dogs etc. If
they arrived on a site with no awning pitches available they would be stumped I suspect0 -
nothing as far as member booking change is concerned, so our choice of pitch is still going to be down to whats available when we arrive...
So we must all clamour to arrive at the barrier exactly at 12:00 noon (as to arrive earlier is ungentlemanly - but effective) to have that choice available to us, and rush around the site once admitted at high speed to review and select a pitch.
Anyone looking at this from outside would see that the Club booking system is actually creating some major problems elsewhere. When computers were developed we thought they were to be our servants. Bonkers!
Well I don't rush around the site at high speed. We aim to arrive on site at about 12.15, if we happen to be there by 12 then so much the better. I have no intention of arriving before 12. We have travelled in the morning and want to be free for as much
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
except that, if we believe the club, the clasification of the pitch into awning or non awning is due to the fire rules of having a 3m gap between outfits. A non awning pitch only allows a car + van to keep that 3m gap. If you put a car + van + awning (which would probably fit) onto a non awning pitch you bite into that 3m gap.
I'm really surprised you didn't know that BB?
I think you missed the point.....again.....
here's some help.....read Steve's post (as referenced) and then read mine....
the point was nothing whatsoever to do with spacing, rather the absolute availability (or not) of said desired pitch type and the consequence that the customer might go elsewhere....
must try harder.....
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
Awning pitxhes are a totally different situation. I do not want to use grass on sites which have hard standing - yes I can do if I have to. Some however may feel reliant on an awning because the need to use it as sleeping accomodation or for dogs etc. If they arrived on a site with no awning pitches available they would be stumped I suspect
...or if the position was known at booking time (no awning pitches available) they might not bother at all, going elsewhere as in Steves post regarding HS, and mine drawing the parallel with awning pitches....
Alan, you certainly go above Corners in 'comprehension' or whatever the new fangled name for it is...
well done, gold star.....(or do you need five purples first?
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
except that, if we believe the club, the clasification of the pitch into awning or non awning is due to the fire rules of having a 3m gap between outfits. A non awning pitch only allows a car + van to keep that 3m gap. If you put a car + van + awning (which would probably fit) onto a non awning pitch you bite into that 3m gap.
I'm really surprised you didn't know that BB?
I think you missed the point.....again.....
here's some help.....read Steve's post (as referenced) and then read mine....
the point was nothing whatsoever to do with spacing, rather the absolute availability (or not) of said desired pitch type and the consequence that the customer might go elsewhere....
must try harder.....
don't be nasty BB. Answer the post don't insult the poster, still if that makes you happy
oh you've done it again with somelese above, whatever makes you happy, the feather ruffler in you I suppose. - If you can't argue rationally. End of. shame really
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When I rolled up with the caravan to any site with grass and h/standing it was of little importance which type I chose.
Caravans can sit on grass quite happily without damaging it and as i never used a grass killer ( ground sheet ) --- on my departure I left the pitch in exactly the same state as it was on my arrival.
When we had the Motorhome, out of respect for the site maintenance workers , I always chose H/Standing as the weight of the motorhome going in and out of the pitch most days would have damaged the grass.
So in conclusion, I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
K
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it makes you wonder why they have a system that allows booking an awning pitch or a serviced pitch as, surely, these choices (when exhausted) might cost the club money....
as in Steves point above.....want to book an awning pitch, see theyre all gone, go elsewhere.....dont see the difference to the 'hs/not' position....
except that, if we believe the club, the clasification of the pitch into awning or non awning is due to the fire rules of having a 3m gap between outfits. A non awning pitch only allows a car + van to keep that 3m gap. If you put a car + van
+ awning (which would probably fit) onto a non awning pitch you bite into that 3m gap.I'm really surprised you didn't know that BB?
I think you missed the point.....again.....
here's some help.....read Steve's post (as referenced) and then read mine....
the point was nothing whatsoever to do with spacing, rather the absolute availability (or not) of said desired pitch type and the consequence that the customer might go elsewhere....
must try harder.....
don't be nasty BB. Answer the post don't insult the poster, still if that makes you happy
oh you've done it again with somelese above, whatever makes you happy, the feather ruffler in you I suppose. - If you can't argue rationally. End of. shame really
Corners, you know good and well that i was replying to your 'little dig' above, and in the same spirit yours was delivered..fun, i guess you meant?
so, i have a little fun back and you get all hurt.....shame really
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I see Kennine, so obviously M/H members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
many MHers don't have a nice big awning like yours....
as you say, perhaps certain members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
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Caravans can sit on grass quite happily without damaging it .................
When we had the Motorhome, out of respect for the site maintenance workers , I always chose H/Standing as the weight of the motorhome going in and out of the pitch most days would have damaged the grass.
So in conclusion, I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
K
Hmmmmmm? Maybe nedd to ban motorhomes from Dunnets Bay then?
Caravan may sit 'happily on grass' Not all caravanners are quite so content.
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I see Kennine, so obviously M/H members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
many MHers don't have a nice big awning like yours....
as you say, perhaps certain members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
Some of us don't use awnings but want a hard standing pitch. Why should I not have the same choise as a M/H, as I, at the moment pay the same membership fee as M/H owners?
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I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
Not at all! What is needed is a total ban on motor caravans going off and on pitches all the time except when first arriving or finally departing.
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I see Kennine, so obviously M/H members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
many MHers don't have a nice big awning like yours....
as you say, perhaps certain members will no doubt be paying a higher level of membership or pitch fee for this consideration?
Some of us don't use awnings but want a hard standing pitch. Why should I not have the same choise as a M/H, as I, at the moment pay the same membership fee as M/H owners?
Sorry, Nellie, irony got the better of you there....
when someone starts moaning about charging more for HS (sometimes reserved by a warden for those pesky MHers) I will just push back with the 'but you take up more room with your large awning, so pay more) tack....
im happy that all prices are the same ATM, but if fees are going to change, then IMV HS/Awning/serviced are all above a normal grass/non-awning so should pay more.
this way, the pesky MH get charged for a HS (which the above poster obviously though was warrented) but the pesky caravanners also get charged for their huge, grass damaging, awnings....seems perfectly fair to me....
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I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
Not at all! What is needed is a total ban on motor caravans going off and on pitches all the time except when first arriving or finally departing.
....and cars swinging onto an adjacent/opposite pitch so as to park their caravan?
live and let live?
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I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
Not at all! What is needed is a total ban on motor caravans going off and on pitches all the time except when first arriving or finally departing.
...The amount of m/caravan owners who post on here about lack of information on transport or distance to local shops,etc does make one wonder if they have chosen the right type of LVs
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I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
Not at all! What is needed is a total ban on motor caravans going off and on pitches all the time except when first arriving or finally departing.
...The amount of m/caravan owners who post on here about lack of information on transport or distance to local shops,etc does make one wonder if they have chosen the right type of LVs
.....but dont you use the bus and the train....?
it makes me wonder if you 'have chosen the right type of LV'
that chip on your shoulder comes out on a daily basis, you really do regret selling your MH dont you?
....and your penance is to have a pop at every MH post on the forum.....all a bit sad really, JVB.
come on, if you like, ill see you at the NEC, buy you a coffee and ill give you a bit of helpful advice on that new MH that youre really hankering after
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I can definitely see a need to reserve h/standing pitches for Motorhomes in priority over caravans in the interest of maintaining the grass pitches of the site in good and servicable order.
Not at all! What is needed is a total ban on motor caravans going off and on pitches all the time except when first arriving or finally departing.
...The amount of m/caravan owners who post on here about lack of information on transport or distance to local shops,etc does make one wonder if they have chosen the right type of LVs
.....but dont you use the bus and the train....?
it makes me wonder if you 'have chosen the right type of LV'
that chip on your shoulder comes out on a daily basis, you really do regret selling your MH dont you?
....and your penance is to have a pop at every MH post on the forum.....all a bit sad really, JVB.
come on, if you like, ill see you at the NEC, buy you a coffee and ill give you a bit of helpful advice on that new MH that youre really hankering after
My posts are from someone who has been there done and realised as others ,
That in the UK a motor caravan needs a lot more thought putting in before purchase than anyone who will mostly tour overseas
Ps I am going to NEC Wed as that is now day of my invitation
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I don't have any problem at all with M/H's.....in fact I tend to prefer to have them on the next pitch, because often they aren't as spread out as caravans with huge awnings.
That said, I still think that there should either be a proper booking system, where you can book the type of pitch you want, or stick with the 'first come, first served' principal.
Why should a caravan arriving at 12 noon (to make the most of their holiday) be forced to take a grass pitch, when there are hardstandings free? Just to enable a M/H to roll up at 6pm and take the hardstanding!
We all chose the type of unit we want to buy. We all do it in the knowleddge that some of the sites we go to have a mixture of pitch types. If you think that means that the pitches left when you arrive won't be suitable, then don't book that site......or
change your unit.It's all about personal choice.
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When I had a caravan I once swapped a H/S pitch with a motorhomer as the only one left was a grass pitch ,and it was obvious he was going to have problems getting on and off ,and we would only need to site the caravan and park in the car park ,we had both
arrived at the same time ,but I was first in reception (ran faster) ,and everyone was happy , sometimes it needs just a bit of give and take 
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I don't have any problem at all with M/H's.....in fact I tend to prefer to have them on the next pitch, because often they aren't as spread out as caravans with huge awnings.
That said, I still think that there should either be a proper booking system, where you can book the type of pitch you want, or stick with the 'first come, first served' principal.
Why should a caravan arriving at 12 noon (to make the most of their holiday) be forced to take a grass pitch, when there are hardstandings free? Just to enable a M/H to roll up at 6pm and take the hardstanding!
We all chose the type of unit we want to buy. We all do it in the knowleddge that some of the sites we go to have a mixture of pitch types. If you think that means that the pitches left when you arrive won't be suitable, then don't book that site......or
change your unit.It's all about personal choice.
I have to agree with my learned friend here (I'm on holiday)
Just because you have a MH should not give you the right to a HS pitch.
I do not like grass pitches, but I know some do and its down to choice. However I do not go to any site where I I might end up with a grass pitch. I notice most new sites on the club network are all HS anyway
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I dont understand nastiness against Motorhomes always being written on here. --As a caravanner I believe we are all on holiday together and as decent people always like to accept that the type of holiday accommodation we use is a matter of personal choice and circumstance. live and let live should be our motto.
That motorhomes are the heavier vehicle and can damage grass pitches while going in and out of the site on a regular basis is a given fact. Hard standing pitches ( if available ) will stop this happening. . While we caravanners only pitch up and leave site with our caravans once during our holiday. I personally see nothing wrong (during inclement weather) with helping the warden staff maintain all the pitches in servicable condition by selecting a grass pitch thereby allowing heavy motorhomes to use the hard standing pitches.
So until every CC site becomes all hard standing, thinking of others as well as ourselves should be foremost in our minds as regarding choosing a pitch.
K
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I dont understand nastiness against Motorhomes always being written on here. --As a caravanner I believe we are all on holiday together and as decent people always like to accept that the type of holiday accommodation we use is a matter of personal choice
and circumstance. live and let live should be our motto.That motorhomes are the heavier vehicle and can damage grass pitches while going in and out of the site on a regular basis is a given fact. Hard standing pitches ( if available ) will stop this happening. . While we caravanners only pitch up and leave site
with our caravans once during our holoday. I personally see nothing wrong (during inclement weather) with helping the warden staff maintain all the pitches in servicable condition by selecting a grass pitch thereby allowing heavy motorhomes to use the hard
standing pitches.K
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I dont understand nastiness against Motorhomes always being written on here. --As a caravanner I believe we are all on holiday together and as decent people always like to accept that the type of holiday accommodation we use is a matter of personal choice
and circumstance. live and let live should be our motto.K
It is nothing to to with a dislike of motorhomes K. It is a simple fact that many caravanners choose to use hard standings.
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