Hard standing booking trial
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If, as some are suggesting, the reason for lack of info from the CC on this subject is due to members booking elsewhere if they cannot get a hardstanding pitch, then that would mean that members are clearly showing a preference for this type of pitch. If this is the case then the CC should be honest about it and then do something about it, like spending some of the profits and make many more of the pitches into hardstanding ones. After the initial outlay it would save money on grass cutting, not have so many pitches out of action due to waterlog and all those awful brown patches due to ground sheets.
Write your comments here...unfortunately it is not as easy as that as there are clauses in leases that restrict what they can do on a site.
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If, as some are suggesting, the reason for lack of info from the CC on this subject is due to members booking elsewhere if they cannot get a hardstanding pitch, then that would mean that members are clearly showing a preference for this type of pitch. If
this is the case then the CC should be honest about it and then do something about it, like spending some of the profits and make many more of the pitches into hardstanding ones. After the initial outlay it would save money on grass cutting, not have so many
pitches out of action due to waterlog and all those awful brown patches due to ground sheets...To make more Harstandings on site wiil mean less pitches as to make two hardstandins the space needed is equivalent to 3 grass pitches
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..To make more Harstandings on site wiil mean less pitches as to make two hardstandins the space needed is equivalent to 3 grass pitches
Please explain the mathematics here.
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If, as some are suggesting, the reason for lack of info from the CC on this subject is due to members booking elsewhere if they cannot get a hardstanding pitch, then that would mean that members are clearly showing a preference for this type of pitch. If
this is the case then the CC should be honest about it and then do something about it, like spending some of the profits and make many more of the pitches into hardstanding ones. After the initial outlay it would save money on grass cutting, not have so many
pitches out of action due to waterlog and all those awful brown patches due to ground sheets.Write your comments here...unfortunately it is not as easy as that as there are clauses in leases that restrict what they can do on a site.
I appreciate that that is the case on some sites but not all. I remember going to the New Forest Centenary site, either when it was first opened or when it was all 'done up'. There were very few hardstandings then and a lot of the grass pitches were out
of action during high summer due to waterlogging. I queried with the then warden why there were so few hardstanding pitches and was told that it was due to the planning regs of the site. Two years later and most of the other side of the site was turned into
hardstanding pitches. Not sure what happened with planning but obviously the problem was overcome once those in the HQ realised how much revenue was being lost on the site due to closed pitches.0 -
The info you require should be in the November magazine so we are told.
...'we'?, JK
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..To make more Harstandings on site wiil mean less pitches as to make two hardstandins the space needed is equivalent to 3 grass pitches
Please explain the mathematics here.
the surface the pitches are implemented in should have no relevance to their size.....
unless, of course, the CC 'model site' dictates that their should be a cosmetic (read irrelevant) finger of grass between each two pitches....
if so, a waste of space....
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Perhaps the new-stype CC "Upstairs" hard standing pitches are to be seperated from each neighbour by a 6m wide finger of woodland? And be charged accordingly of course!
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I am an amptee and once I get out of te caravan into an awning walking on grass is not easy. Using a zimmer frame it is not easy to walk on hardstanding but almost impossible on grass.
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I am an amptee and once I get out of te caravan into an awning walking on grass is not easy. Using a zimmer frame it is not easy to walk on hardstanding but almost impossible on grass.
Given your problems you should ring the site the day before you arrive and they should be able to save a suitable pitch for you.
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I would suspect the problem is flogging the grass. Whilst with a van I am prepared to risk getting a grass pitch, I would book a hardstanding if availabe. Once gone of course, so is the option of arriving at 12 to make sure you get a hardstanding. So you
go elsewhere and they are left with the grass.0 -
I would suspect the problem is flogging the grass. Whilst with a van I am prepared to risk getting a grass pitch, I would book a hardstanding if availabe. Once gone of course, so is the option of arriving at 12 to make sure you get a hardstanding. So you
go elsewhere and they are left with the grass.I reckon that to be about right Steve
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I think there is only one way the Club could introduce booking of hard standing across the board and that is to introduce a price differential between hard and grass pitches.
peedee
. . . or just convert sites to all hard standing.
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You can always book a service pitch , I understand they are usually H/S but they are considerably more , have a plethora of facilities that you may use or not , I suppose the choice would be up to each individual member wouldn't it
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Some of us actually prefer grass! I accept that during the "Off season" weather wise there is often no option but to use HS but all things being equal I would choose grass every time, especially if thinking of putting up an awning.
TF
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Some of us actually prefer grass! I accept that during the "Off season" weather wise there is often no option but to use HS but all things being equal I would choose grass every time, especially if thinking of putting up an awning.
TF
Likewise. Just came back yesterday after a few days away. No matter how many pegs went into the blasted hardstanding, they came out (admittedly it was windy) cos gravel will not hold onto a peg ... steel or plastic ....
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I think there is only one way the Club could introduce booking of hard standing across the board and that is to introduce a price differential between hard and grass pitches.
peedee
. . . or just convert sites to all hard standing.
Hell is more likely to freeze over before that happens.
Peedee
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Some of us actually prefer grass! I accept that during the "Off season" weather wise there is often no option but to use HS but all things being equal I would choose grass every time, especially if thinking of putting up an awning.
TF
But could you clarify, TF........if you booked the grass pitch that you prefer, and then there was a period of heavy rain that put the grass out of use, would you be content to accept it if your booking were to be cancelled, but bookings for hardstandings
(perhaps made much later than your booking) still went ahead?0 -
Some of us actually prefer grass! I accept that during the "Off season" weather wise there is often no option but to use HS but all things being equal I would choose grass every time, especially if thinking of putting up an awning.
TF
But could you clarify, TF........if you booked the grass pitch that you prefer, and then there was a period of heavy rain that put the grass out of use, would you be content to accept it if your booking were to be cancelled, but bookings for hardstandings
(perhaps made much later than your booking) still went ahead?If the grass pitch was out of use it's out of use
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Just like to ask if the club is run for the benefit of the members?if you cannot book a h/standing and you arrive on site with a m/home and no h/standings are available and it is wet,you are not going to be very happy,you then have to look elsewhere,so what
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Just like to ask if the club is run for the benefit of the members?if you cannot book a h/standing and you arrive on site with a m/home and no h/standings are available and it is wet,you are not going to be very happy,you then have to look elsewhere,so what
is the point of being a member?Problems are usually get roundable. A few years ago we were in North Wales a the end of a very wet summer. Grass pitches were totally unusable by MH's. The warden just used a suitable loop of road and had them stop in front of the pitch. This enabled coupling
to EHU and by parking on one side vehicles could exit.0 -
Just like to ask if the club is run for the benefit of the members?if you cannot book a h/standing and you arrive on site with a m/home and no h/standings are available and it is wet,you are not going to be very happy,you then have to look elsewhere,so what
is the point of being a member?Problems are usually get roundable. A few years ago we were in North Wales a the end of a very wet summer. Grass pitches were totally unusable by MH's. The warden just used a suitable loop of road and had them stop in front of the pitch. This enabled coupling
to EHU and by parking on one side vehicles could exit..good on the warden for thinking out the box, ok for 1 night but not if you were to be there for longer. Not everyone can/want to arrive at 12 noon, we need choices.
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Everyone wants choice. Yes, I choose to use hard standing. I arrive on site at the earliest permitted arrival time however, not to grab hard standing, but to get set up and get on with my holiday after a break whilst travelling. One problem is that some
members actively choose to be on grass. They appear to be a minority from my observation, I say this after being on sites in cracking weather and seeing members choose mainly hard standing. When it is wet there is sometimes insufficient hard standing. What
does a warden do. Should he reserve the hard standings left for motorhomes?That would not please me as a caravanner who wants hard standing in any weather. Yes, I use some well draining sites that are almost all grass for the site location. Many sites however are not on well draining ground.
Maybe we need a different sort of membership card. Maybe we should consider those members that want to use grass as a different group. The club could say that if you wish to use grass when hard standing is available it needs to say on your card 'I want grass''
Then in wet weather if there were a shortage of hard standings they would be told 'you are a grass pitch member, the site is full and so you are on grass' or, depending on pitch bookings 'there are few enough on site so that you may, if you wish, use hard
standing. Those members whose cards read 'do not want grass' would be told in any weather 'you cannot use grass unless all hard standing is taken'. Works for me.If members wish to retain grass pitches then that is there choice and they should live with any consequences. That is another way to look at it.
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i dint think we need a two tier membership (presumably, 'grass only' would be seriously cheaper.....) rather, if we are going to change anything away from first come first serve, then it must be by moving pitch selection to the booking time rather than the
arrival time...however, the trial seems to have yeilded nothing as far as member booking change is concerned, so our choice of pitch is still going to be down to whats available when we arrive...
an opportunity missed, i feel...
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