Cycles on site
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Hoskins has a very good valid point, as a dog owner we have to keep our dogs undercontrol so we do some parents think just because they are on holiday there children can ignore site rules and rub wild.
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We've just come back from Incleboro Fields - huge site with a lot of road. One night I was out walking the dog and it was just dark and kids were still riding their bikes without lights and not going with the flow of traffic.
Sorry I blame the parents!
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They were probably having FUN, a concept which doesn't seem to be understood by a few on here.
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They were probably having FUN, a concept which doesn't seem to be understood by a few on here.
Write your comments here... FUN is okay until someone gets hurt or in this case suffers damage.
Thankfully the parent has offered to pay but he may not appreciate the potential cost. We had someones supermarket trolley run down a slope into our car door and had repair quotes from to £250 to £365.
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We've just come back from Incleboro Fields - huge site with a lot of road. One night I was out walking the dog and it was just dark and kids were still riding their bikes without lights and not going with the flow of traffic.
Sorry I blame the parents!
would you expect little kids to go all the way round the site back to the main gate? This is the same site that I had someone inches from my rear bumper while driving to our pitch on the far side of the site presumably as I was driving at/around the 5mph
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I am always amazed on site how many parents are happy to let their children ride round the site, often not following the one way system and nearly always not looking for moving traffice. Do these same bad parents let their children ride around a supermarket
car park! They are your children and you should keep them safe at all times. Just come back from Cheddar and a group of young boys were constantly riding round and when a driver had to stop for them they were rude to him! Amazing.0 -
We've just come back from Incleboro Fields - huge site with a lot of road. One night I was out walking the dog and it was just dark and kids were still riding their bikes without lights and not going with the flow of traffic.
Sorry I blame the parents!
would you expect little kids to go all the way round the site back to the main gate? This is the same site that I had someone inches from my rear bumper while driving to our pitch on the far side of the site presumably as I was driving at/around the 5mph
limit.They could always get off and push. Which would be the sensible thing to do, with no lights. However, they were kids and unsupervised, and like a lot of kids thought they could get away with it. Hence the calls on here for some parents to be a little more
responsible and provide adequate supervision. Allowing riding at night without lights does not count as adequate in my opinion.0 -
We've just come back from Incleboro Fields - huge site with a lot of road. One night I was out walking the dog and it was just dark and kids were still riding their bikes without lights and not going with the flow of traffic.
Sorry I blame the parents!
would you expect little kids to go all the way round the site back to the main gate? This is the same site that I had someone inches from my rear bumper while driving to our pitch on the far side of the site presumably as I was driving at/around the 5mph
limit.They could always get off and push. Which would be the sensible thing to do, with no lights. However, they were kids and unsupervised, and like a lot of kids thought they could get away with it. Hence the calls on here for some parents to be a little more
responsible and provide adequate supervision. Allowing riding at night without lights does not count as adequate in my opinion.they were riding around a safe caravan site, not condoning lack of lights, but the were kids and never thought ..... I found myself as a kid out & about with no lights too .... and besides, CC site are never dark, too many lighting bollards. There's only
one bit of that site that would be iffy for them, and that's the road that joins the two main parts, and that's dark even during the day due to all the trees. Did you never go out without being chaperoned by your parents? I bet not.0 -
..... We had someones supermarket trolley run down a slope into our car door and had repair quotes from to £250 to £365.
Which is more like the couple/few hundred quid that I suggested at the beginning ...... but by the time claims handlers etc have had their bit, it's looking like it's going to be more like £thousands
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Once again I find myself amazed at the lack of perspective threads like this arouse. Are there hordes of kids allowed to "run wild" on CC sites? Huge gangs of children cycling at breakneck speeds in all directions? Dozens of "bad parents" allowing their
offspring to rampage around the site?Of course not; these are isolated incidents (which I'm not for a moment condoning), but, as I say, let's keep a sense of perspective here please!
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No wonder that to many young families (campers or caravanners) the CCC is thought of as being more child friendly
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they were riding around a safe caravan site, not condoning lack of lights, but the were kids and never thought ..... I found myself as a kid out & about with no lights too .... and besides, CC site are never dark, too many lighting bollards. There's only
one bit of that site that would be iffy for them, and that's the road that joins the two main parts, and that's dark even during the day due to all the trees. Did you never go out without being chaperoned by your parents? I bet not.Not sure I mentioned chaperoned. However, the parents new they were out on bikes in the dark and new they had no lights. Or perhaps they had no idea where they were. Either way they are not adequately supervising their child. I am sure you will agree that
to supervise someone does not mean you have to be following them round 24/7.0 -
Once again I find myself amazed at the lack of perspective threads like this arouse. Are there hordes of kids allowed to "run wild" on CC sites? Huge gangs of children cycling at breakneck speeds in all directions? Dozens of "bad parents" allowing their
offspring to rampage around the site?Of course not; these are isolated incidents (which I'm not for a moment condoning), but, as I say, let's keep a sense of perspective here please!
Unfortunately not that isolated M. Given those who post on CT only represent a fraction of the membership. If we were to scale the number up, the figure is likely to be significant.
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Once again I find myself amazed at the lack of perspective threads like this arouse. Are there hordes of kids allowed to "run wild" on CC sites? Huge gangs of children cycling at breakneck speeds in all directions? Dozens of "bad parents" allowing their offspring to rampage around the site?
Of course not; these are isolated incidents (which I'm not for a moment condoning), but, as I say, let's keep a sense of perspective here please!
The incidence of children riding round and round sites, often the wrong way and clearly unsupervised, are far from 'isolated'.
We see it all the time, especially at weekends.
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Could I ask - why do parents (well, certainly a few that post on here) seem to have such a big problem with taking their kids somewhere suitable to play and to learn how to ride their bikes?
Why do they see it as necessary for their kids to ride round and round on site roads (which are not play areas) and often at speed and in the wrong direction?
Is it all too much trouble for you to take them somewhere more suitable?
Do you ever, for a moment, consider the impact on others? Or is just you that matters?
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Once again I find myself amazed at the lack of perspective threads like this arouse. Are there hordes of kids allowed to "run wild" on CC sites? Huge gangs of children cycling at breakneck speeds in all directions? Dozens of "bad parents" allowing their
offspring to rampage around the site?Of course not; these are isolated incidents (which I'm not for a moment condoning), but, as I say, let's keep a sense of perspective here please!
The incidence of children riding round and round sites, often the wrong way and clearly unsupervised are far from 'isolated'.
We see it all the time at weekends.
Well Ian, obviously you use CC sites more than we do (
) so I'll have to take you're word for it.But last week we walked the dogs across Penhale Dunes and back through the Haven Perran Sands site. If you really think the sorts of behaviour being talked about on this thread are common on CC sites, you should see a typical day down there! ( On second
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Two way agreement as far as I can see. Members and visitors pay their fees to be on site, and that includes following the rules that the Club lays down as part of trying to keep everyone safe. Where possible, the rules will be supervised, but all visitors
have a responsibility for their own actions, and those dependent upon them, ensuring that they follow the rules. Not speeding, and adequately supervising children are part of this contract.As someone who had to be involved in investigating an incident where a child wasn't adequately supervised, and as a result of parents not following safety rules actually died, then I tend to adopt a near zero tolerance outlook. That being the case, we avoid
big, family based Club Sites during Summer and school holidays. I am sure that on the whole, they suffer from very little in the way of major incidents, but I prefer to stay away. Witnessing poor parental skills and selfish behaviour is sadly now part of our
society, and as such is self perpetuating in a small minority of cases.0 -
Once again I find myself amazed at the lack of perspective threads like this arouse. Are there hordes of kids allowed to "run wild" on CC sites? Huge gangs of children cycling at breakneck speeds in all directions? Dozens of "bad parents" allowing their offspring to rampage around the site?
Of course not; these are isolated incidents (which I'm not for a moment condoning), but, as I say, let's keep a sense of perspective here please!
Unfortunately not that isolated M. Given those who post on CT only represent a fraction of the membership. If we were to scale the number up, the figure is likely to be significant.
Possibly, Steve. But you could say exactly the same about all the myriad things folk complain about on here. And yet on our relatively infrequent stays on CC sites we've never experienced hordes of kids marauding round site ( or uncleared dog pooh or speeding motorists or loud TVs etc. etc.) Maybe we should go to CC sites more often to subject ourselves to all this!
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..... We had someones supermarket trolley run down a slope into our car door and had repair quotes from to £250 to £365.
Which is more like the couple/few hundred quid that I suggested at the beginning ...... but by the time claims handlers etc have had their bit, it's looking like it's going to be more like £thousands
I suggested around around £1k for an approved repairer to get back to the condition a new car needs to be to maintain warranty etc.
This isn't a figure plucked from thin air by the way. I had my car keyed 7 years ago down one side and it came to nearly £4k
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You obviously go to the same places, and at the same time as us M! We see little of rule breaking, but as I say we are selective with our sites and times we visit!
I was astonished to see signs on Cornish beaches down in West Penwith a couple of years ago, actually reminding parents to supervise children at all times! A child had been buried alive down there, sadly to late when finally got out.
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Possibly, Steve. But you could say exactly the same about all the myriad things folk complain about on here. And yet on our relatively infrequent stays on CC sites we've never experienced hordes of kids marauding round site ( or uncleared dog pooh or speeding
motorists or loud TVs etc. etc.) Maybe we should go to CC sites more often to subject ourselves to all this!You will be safe enough most of the time M. We do over a 100 days a year and mid week out of school holidays, most of the children are very young and well supervised by grandparents. It is just that this year, for the first time, we did a week in August
and were certainly not impressed by the riding skills of some of the children at Cirencester.0 -
@ Fysherman. Neither was my suggested figure plucked from the air. I paid a local body shop a few hundred quid to repair a door that SWMBO used to part demolish a garden wall. Can I surmise that your £4k for key damage was via your insurance where everyone
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they were riding around a safe caravan site, not condoning lack of lights, but the were kids and never thought ..... I found myself as a kid out & about with no lights too .... and besides, CC site are never dark, too many lighting bollards. There's only
one bit of that site that would be iffy for them, and that's the road that joins the two main parts, and that's dark even during the day due to all the trees. Did you never go out without being chaperoned by your parents? I bet not.Not sure I mentioned chaperoned. However, the parents new they were out on bikes in the dark and new they had no lights. Or perhaps they had no idea where they were. Either way they are not adequately supervising their child. I am sure you will agree that
to supervise someone does not mean you have to be following them round 24/7...What's your definition of adequate supervision then. ..... you say you don't need to be by someone's side all the time ...... you can't have it both ways
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I paid a lot of money for my Toyota LandCruiser and as far as kids cyling around the sites, I woudn't want my Vehicle crashed into and damaged by some kid on a bike. I don't want to have to take it to any body shop whatsoever as i want to keep it in the condition i bought it.
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I paid a lot of money for my Toyota LandCruiser and as far as kids cyling around the sites, I woudn't want my Vehicle crashed into and damaged by some kid on a bike. I don't want to have to take it to any body shop whatsoever as i want to keep it in the
condition i bought..like wise .... but sh1t happens. I took my car to a main dealer to have it crashed I to
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It was a nearly new company car (SAAB) MM and had to be repaired to manufacturers standards. This meant it had to go to an approved repairer. I have no idea about the insurance as with a company car you are just not that interested.
One of the repairers just happened to tell me what it had cost otherwise I would have had no idea (or care)
I understand the OP also had a nearly new car (can't be bothered to go back and look TBH) so that will have to be repaired to the same standards in order to maintain the warranty.
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they were riding around a safe caravan site, not condoning lack of lights, but the were kids and never thought ..... I found myself as a kid out & about with no lights too .... and besides, CC site are never dark, too many lighting bollards. There's only
one bit of that site that would be iffy for them, and that's the road that joins the two main parts, and that's dark even during the day due to all the trees. Did you never go out without being chaperoned by your parents? I bet not.Not sure I mentioned chaperoned. However, the parents new they were out on bikes in the dark and new they had no lights. Or perhaps they had no idea where they were. Either way they are not adequately supervising their child. I am sure you will agree that
to supervise someone does not mean you have to be following them round 24/7...What's your definition of adequate supervision then. ..... you say you don't need to be by someone's side all the time ...... you can't have it both ways
I would have thought that would have been abundantly clear from my post. The parents, at the very least, should have told them to have their bikes back before dark, or at a certain time, and gone looking if they did not return. My definition would go something
like this. Supervising a 3/5year old you would want them in sight, as children get older clearly they will be out of sight. Supervision in this instance means keeping a check on what they are doing, when they should return, wearing a cycle helmet etc.0 -
We tend to only tour low season, but often this does include the May BHs, and of course every week has a weekend.
The difference in the number of people on site, particularly children, is obvious from the amount of traffic on the site roads, and yes, children on bikes are everywhere.
Sometimes just 2 or 3 together, but more often, especially in the evenings, they congregate in large groups and race each other round the site. Any idea of limiting speed or only going in the "correct" direction goes out of the window as they egg each other on. Often there are even under 5s racing around. Pedestrians are ignored.
If they are watching, the parents must be aware of what their children are up to, so either they are silently condoning it, or not bothering what the children are up to.
(what happened there? text went huge!)
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