Cycles on site
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We are members of our (when at home) local Neigbourhood watch,,which has groups over the whole town with farm and even dog watch ,with the great backing of Herfordshire Police,all members get regular email updates,several a week at "busy" times like school holidays,and it is mostly damage or unsocial behavier,and the the age groups even very late at night or the early hours have been of 8yrs of age upwards,what are the "parents" doing,these days "talking to them on their level"
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I do think the trouble with this thread, as with so many others on CT, is that relatively isolated incidents get blown out of all proportion and then, to an outside observer, it seems that they are the norm.
True, you occasionally see children riding round sites at breakneck speed and in random directions and that is wrong and dangerous not only to themselves but to other site users as well. The same could be said for speeders, dog fouling, loud music, early arrivers, late leavers and any of the myriad of other things folk find to complain about on here.
What is needed is for all site users to have responsibility for their (and members of their group's) behaviour but equally a bit of tolerance towards other site users as well. Compared to some of the antisocial incidents which take place up and down the country, these incidents, though annoying and avoidable are relatively scarce and minor, surely?
That's true Moulesy and you have to bear in mind that you might be sharing a caravan site with all sorts of people from all sorts of backgrounds, that's life. You might come from a nice environment where you hardly see anything that disturbs your peace but on a site you'll be seeing a much greater mix of behaviours and attitudes and not always to your liking. I'm sure we all want children to be safe and thankfully most of them are.
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Reading some of the comments recently I tempted to point out how good it will be next week when the children return to school and are subject to the structure and disciplined environment engendered by hard working teachers whose own holidays, hopefully,
have not been blighted by these hordes of undisciplined urchins who appear to frequent CC sites!
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No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison...What ??? are you in the real world?
Exactly, JVB.
The sort of "engaging" that I see between parents and children runs along the lines of.....
Child runs around doing as it pleases, disturbing others, kicking football or whatever.....parent says "stop doing that, Johnny" and Johnny carries on as if nothing has been said.
This is then repeated a couple of times (if parent can be bothered).
Parent then either gives up or alternatively says "If you stop doing that I'll buy you some sweets / ice cream".
As said, no proper boundaries are set.
. Ian .So true these days, but who are we to at our ages to see how things have deteriated since the " polically correct etc brigades moved in
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Oh dear, not "brigades" again!
..Well they seem to be that size at least ,as they certainly out number the "people" who see the damage they have caused
Well maybe that's because the number of incidents folk are referring to on this thread are, in fact, relatively uncommon (although, I agree and repeat, unacceptable when they do happen)!
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.... Campsite roads are not a play areas and I for one would favour a cycling ban.
Agree, they're not a play ground, but a far safer place than the alternative ie the public highway. If kids can't cycle in the relative saftey of a caravan site, where else could you suggest?
in the case of those at the Centenary Site ...the New Forest?
True, and other than that there are loads of places to go.
I would also say that the parents ought to be out on the road cycling with them, to teach them some road sense (of course that would mean them having to put down their drink for a while). They sure as heck aren't going to learn it in a caravan site.
As said, site roads are not play areas and shouldn't be treated as such.
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Have you never left a campsite,Tammy, because there was something about it you didn't like? Or do you seriously think you can get every thing changed exactly to your liking? I just move on
Yes ET, I have left a site because there was something I didn't like. Filthy showers and toilets but that was in France. We are talking about CC sites, these are pre-booked normally, when you arrrive you pick a pitch that suits you and settle down. A few
days in someone comes and doesn't respect other people, why should I move and then be penalised by the CC for cancelling a booking. NO deal with the ones who cannot/will not respect other people who are on site. I will move when it suits me not when someone
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Remember to get the kids a mountain Bike too, none of that tights & tap shoes mullarky where a bunch of old Dodgers pedal around pretending to be like their hero's-hero's who are fit & not old
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Have you never left a campsite,Tammy, because there was something about it you didn't like? Or do you seriously think you can get every thing changed exactly to your liking? I just move on
Yes ET, I have left a site because there was something I didn't like. Filthy showers and toilets but that was in France. We are talking about CC sites, these are pre-booked normally, when you arrrive you pick a pitch that suits you and settle down. A few days in someone comes and doesn't respect other people, why should I move and then be penalised by the CC for cancelling a booking. NO deal with the ones who cannot/will not respect other people who are on site. I will move when it suits me not when someone else is being unsociable.
Good post, TG, and exactly the right attitude. As with so many of these sorts of complaint threads if one's not prepared to do something about the rare incidents such as have been mentioned, you really have no-one to blame but yourself. If a quiet word with parents/dog owners/drivers doesn't have any effect let the wardens know.
But, again, let's not lose sight of the fact that these sorts of incidents are relatively uncommon.
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.... Campsite roads are not a play areas and I for one would favour a cycling ban.
Agree, they're not a play ground, but a far safer place than the alternative ie the public highway. If kids can't cycle in the relative saftey of a caravan site, where else could you suggest?
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Remember to get the kids a mountain Bike too, none of that tights & tap shoes mullarky where a bunch of old Dodgers pedal around pretending to be like their hero's-hero's who are fit & not old
Point of order here.......those "old Dodgers" wearing their hero's cycling shirts do so only while cycling. Not as every-day wear. Most of them are capable of, what you would probably consider, impossible feats of fitness and endurance.
Unlike those who wear football shirts (yourself, maybe) who basically do so to go to the pub.
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So Ian, what "old Dodgers" are capable of 'impossible feats of fitness & endurance'. . . .You maybe?
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PS-I don't do football or the shirts, or tights 'n' tap shoes either. . . .it just ain't masculine having that big belly hanging over the tights, eewwww!!!
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One of the interesting things about this thread is the way that some folk deny that speeding cars are a problem on CC sites (on other threads) and yet here seem to suggest that those same sites are rife with hordes of children tearing round on bikes at breakneck
speeds in random directions!I have to say that in my experience, neither is a huge problem on CC sites, but without a doubt the former is far more common.
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Does the Caravan Club have any statistics on accidents and their causes? .- it may be that cycles are lower down the list than zimmer frames.
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Does the Caravan Club have any statistics on accidents and their causes? .- it may be that cycles are lower down the list than zimmer frames.
Why not ask them? I'm sure they'd be happy to help you.
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My grandchildren spent their holiday yesterday paint balling and practising archery. If the Club were to bring activities like that on to Club sites the bike problem might go away.
Both activities are good fun and both will have been carried out in a safe environment and under very controlled conditions (I hope). Underlying that they, hopefully, understood that safety was paramount and to act responsibly.
If similar conditions were available onsite I would also get involved with the archery, but I doubt it will ever become available.
Who's going to pay for all the equipment in the first instance? Surely the majority of members don't want to cough up for a set of facilities that they are never going to use. To recoup the cost the club would have to charge those taking part a very high
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.... Campsite roads are not a play areas and I for one would favour a cycling ban.
Agree, they're not a play ground, but a far safer place than the alternative ie the public highway. If kids can't cycle in the relative saftey of a caravan site, where else could you suggest?
in the case of those at the Centenary Site ...the New Forest?
True, and other than that there are loads of places to go.
I would also say that the parents ought to be out on the road cycling with them, to teach them some road sense (of course that would mean them having to put down their drink for a while). They sure as heck aren't going to learn it in a caravan site.
As said, site roads are not play areas and shouldn't be treated as such.
What do all these children do when they are at home? Where do they ride their bikes then?
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Woo hoo! The challenge is on, Rocky!
You'll need to manage more than a couple of laps of a caravan site though (which of course would be quite inappropriate).
Whoosh. . . .Hear that Ian?, it was your post going right over my head. Could you fill in the gaps?
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