Cycles on site
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You mean you want to continue being unhappy? Or just have something to grouse about ?
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You mean you want to continue being unhappy? Or just have something to grouse about ?
Not in the least, I simply want to be able to book a site without having to concern myself as to whether my stay will be spoilt by some adults and their children not conforming to the site rules and the reasonable standards of a civilised society. Is that
too much to ask?NO
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If I hit upon a site where dogs are runnimg free (which annoys me) I don't try and change the way the site is managed or protest on a forum - I just leave, go somewhere else, and put that site on my black list to avoid in future. So I merely thought
that some of you posting here (who are obviously annoyed by children running free) would simply do the same and go somewhere else. Is that too simple?0 -
If I hit upon a site where dogs are runnimg free (which annoys me) I don't try and change the way the site is managed or protest on a forum - I just leave, go somewhere else, and put that site on my black list to avoid in future. So I merely thought
that some of you posting here (who are obviously annoyed by children running free) would simply do the same and go somewhere else. Is that too simple?Why should others go somewhere else, its the ones causing the problems that should do that. If I see a dog running loose I will either inform the owner or inform the warden, likewise with children, if I see them doing wrong I tell them so, or I speak to
the parents, if that brings no joy then I will speak with the wardens. Why should I have to move because others cannot be considerate.
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Have you never left a campsite,Tammy, because there was something about it you didn't like? Or do you seriously think you can get every thing changed exactly to your liking? I just move on
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Have you never left a campsite,Tammy, because there was something about it you didn't like? Or do you seriously think you can get every thing changed exactly to your liking? I just move on
Write your comments here... That's a bit of an ostrich attitude to take isn't it ?
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Why is it that people on here are quite happy to see rule breaking and say "well what is wrong with rule breaking?" Rules are there to allow everyone to enjoy their time on a site, what is wrong with that?
And NO! I am not a grumpy old man! I might be old, but I enjoy my life. I just expect others to respect others when on holiday.
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I'm in the Children should be allowed a Childhood camp. My possessions are a bunch of inanimate objects, as long they don't bust anything beyond use I've not got a problem. I've had a 'plastiglass' window scuffed by a leather football before today. I was
out at the time. When I returned a young lad came over to apologise, His Father was just away from Him. When the Lad had done His bit. Father approached & apologised too, He offered to pay for a mobile 'Mr fixit' to call & buff the scuff out. I declined with
thanks. It's life, Children get a short time to be Children, I for one won't make it shorter. I've yet to see or meet a Child that was anywhere near as bad as I was when I was a Child. I'm no hypocrite. Childhoods are special-no compromise.0 -
Have you never left a campsite,Tammy, because there was something about it you didn't like? Or do you seriously think you can get every thing changed exactly to your liking? I just move on
...Thats the problem with most in todays society,they will just not face up to a problem but move on and hope someone else will do it
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. Childhoods are special-no compromise.
Agreed, but it not quite so special if they are badly injured. A scuffed window is easily repairable, as is a vehicle. A child not so much. All anyone on this thread has been asking, is for parents to take a bit of responsibility and supervise, particularly
young, children in a responsible manner.I would define responsible, as stopping them from cycling at speed on campsite roads.
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inanimate objects, as long they don't bust anything beyond use I've not got a problem.
To many people the "use" is getting pleasure from the pride of keeping them in near pristine contition for a good length of time. Dents and scrapes from the unnescesary carlessness of others (of whatever age) detracts severely from that.
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I'm in the Children should be allowed a Childhood camp. My possessions are a bunch of inanimate objects, as long they don't bust anything beyond use I've not got a problem. I've had a 'plastiglass' window scuffed by a leather football before today. I was
out at the time. When I returned a young lad came over to apologise, His Father was just away from Him. When the Lad had done His bit. Father approached & apologised too, He offered to pay for a mobile 'Mr fixit' to call & buff the scuff out. I declined with
thanks. It's life, Children get a short time to be Children, I for one won't make it shorter. I've yet to see or meet a Child that was anywhere near as bad as I was when I was a Child. I'm no hypocrite. Childhoods are special-no compromise...I agree ,there is nothing wrong with children enjoying the years they have before they catch up with the real world ,its what seems to be the growing trend of no bounderies that parents seem to endorse
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Just come back from a lovely few days on site, lots of children on cycles, scooters, skateboards, remote control cars etc going in all directions and at all speeds and no problems caused - a couple of grazed knees and elbows but nothing serious. A few
drivers going at above 5mph but no real boy (or old-boy) racers seen so all good.The key part of the rule quoted ''Parents are reminded that children remain their responsibility and therefore they should be supervised at all times,''
is the bit that is never ever followed and is probably totally unrealistic. To say that you should be able to see your child at all times whilst they are on site is never realistically going to happen, particularly if you holiday with older children/teens.
You should be reponsible for any damage they might cause though, and shouldnt let them blatantly break the rules (eg allow them to have footballs) as not only is is se;fish to other site users it is a very bad example to be setting for the child.0 -
No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison.0 -
No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison...What ??? are you in the real world?
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Just come back from a lovely few days on site, lots of children on cycles, scooters, skateboards, remote control cars etc going in all directions and at all speeds and no problems caused - a couple of grazed knees and elbows but nothing serious. A few drivers going at above 5mph but no real boy (or old-boy) racers seen so all good.
The key part of the rule quoted ''Parents are reminded that children remain their responsibility and therefore they should be supervised at all times,'' is the bit that is never ever followed and is probably totally unrealistic. To say that you should be able to see your child at all times whilst they are on site is never realistically going to happen, particularly if you holiday with older children/teens. You should be reponsible for any damage they might cause though, and shouldnt let them blatantly break the rules (eg allow them to have footballs) as not only is is se;fish to other site users it is a very bad example to be setting for the child.
..."supervision" is giving them bounderies ,that is not in the vocablery of some modern parents ,the only thing that is a priority is that the parents are not "bothered" by their off spring as its their holiday as well( as said to a warden on site)
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''Parents are reminded that children remain their responsibility and therefore they should be supervised at all times,''
. . . To say that you should be able to see your child at all times whilst they are on site is never realistically going to happen,So when a child is abducted or molested it isn't the parents/guardians fault.
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No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison...What ??? are you in the real world?
It is my post, I disagreed with yours. If you disagree with mine-no worries, however-it would be common courtesy to offer reasons as opposed to being rude. Tis life I guess, we meet all sorts. Yup, the young are far easier to relate to than some older members
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No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison...What ??? are you in the real world?
It is my post, I disagreed with yours. If you disagree with mine-no worries, however-it would be common courtesy to offer reasons as opposed to being rude. Tis life I guess, we meet all sorts. Yup, the young are far easier to relate to than some older members
of society...I am glad i grew up in an age where we could enjoy our childhood, but knew how far we could "push it",compared to todays no limit atttitude,and then some wonder why we have so many problems
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But where do we draw the line that says something is acceptable if kids do it but other things are not? When I was a kid, me and my mates were always having campfires and even doing a bit of cooking on them occasionally. Would anyone condone this on a CC
site? It would only be kids having a bit of fun after all.0 -
''Parents are reminded that children remain their responsibility and therefore they should be supervised at all times,'' . . . To say that you should be able to see your child at all times whilst they are on site is never realistically going to happen,
So when a child is abducted or molested it isn't the parents/guardians fault.
No it is not the parent or the child's fault it is the fault of the abductor/molestor and their fault only. A parent who lets their 6 year old out alone after dark unsupervised in a public place (eg the road outside their block of flats) or leaves their three year old in a hotel room whilst they go out for a meal is of course acting irresponsibly in increasing the risk to that child and the same could be said of a parent who lets a young child out of sight on a caravan site. However the idea that you should be with your 17 year old child at every moment and not allow them out of your sight on a caravan site is just ridiculous.
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But where do we draw the line that says something is acceptable if kids do it but other things are not? When I was a kid, me and my mates were always having campfires and even doing a bit of cooking on them occasionally. Would anyone condone this on a CC site? It would only be kids having a bit of fun after all.
...We used to do that ,but as you say its knowing what is acceptable and where
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''Parents are reminded that children remain their responsibility and therefore they should be supervised at all times,''
. . . To say that you should be able to see your child at all times whilst they are on site is never realistically going to happen,So when a child is abducted or molested it isn't the parents/guardians fault.
No it is not the parent or the child's fault it is the fault of the abductor/molestor and their fault only. A parent who lets their 6 year old out alone after dark unsupervised in a public place (eg the road outside their block of flats) is of course acting
irresponsibly in increasing the risk to that child and the same could be said of a parent who lets a young child out of sight on a caravan site. Perhaps everyone who comes onto a caravan site should have to present an up to date enhanced DBS?..I can quote an incident that happened on a cc site in Notinghamshire,a young childbout 4yrs a (very stressed)was brought to the Wardens office after being found wandering on site,after a further 45mins of two staff (with the child)looking round the site
the "parents"were eventually traced completly unaware that she had got lost, as she had gone to the play area0 -
I do think the trouble with this thread, as with so many others on CT, is that relatively isolated incidents get blown out of all proportion and then, to an outside observer, it seems that they are the norm.
True, you occasionally see children riding round sites at breakneck speed and in random directions and that is wrong and dangerous not only to themselves but to other site users as well. The same could be said for speeders, dog fouling, loud music, early
arrivers, late leavers and any of the myriad of other things folk find to complain about on here.What is needed is for all site users to have responsibility for their (and members of their group's) behaviour but equally a bit of tolerance towards other site users as well. Compared to some of the antisocial incidents which take place up and down the
country, these incidents, though annoying and avoidable are relatively scarce and minor, surely?0 -
No boundaries JV?, I disagree 100%. Parents of Children in these times actually engage with their Children, they talk with them & not down to them. They take time to explain the Child's shortcomings & ways to make it better. I actually watch & listen, this
is generally, I'm not spouting about how perfect my Children are I am talking about the majority I come into contact with. If it was no boundaries then we'd all be suffering & not discussing our differing attitudes. I'm happy to say the offering violence to
Children as a way to control them is gladly in the past(I'm talking about my era/experiences not yours JV) Children are Angels in comparison...What ??? are you in the real world?
Exactly, JVB.
The sort of "engaging" that I see between parents and children runs along the lines of.....
Child runs around doing as it pleases, disturbing others, kicking football or whatever.....parent says "stop doing that, Johnny" and Johnny carries on as if nothing has been said.
This is then repeated a couple of times (if parent can be bothered).
Parent then either gives up or alternatively says "If you stop doing that I'll buy you some sweets / ice cream".
As said, no proper boundaries are set.
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When we were at Crossways a few weeks ago there was a family opposite us and had 3 kids ( about 10 to 15 ) and they rode round on their bikes ,played swing ball and amused them selves ,they also took the washing up to the wash up area and helped with all
the water and waste water tasks, I thought that that was great that the whole family were enjoying there stay and everyone doing their bit ,instead if some kids having their heads buried in an I-pad all week0
