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  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2016 #152

    Can we justify the use of  the word 'majority' in a post without the empirical evidence to support it?. Without it its just opinion or, at best. gut feeing isn't it? 

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #153

    Can we justify the use of  the word 'majority' in a post without the empirical evidence to support it?. Without it its just opinion or, at best. gut feeing isn't it? 

    "We" don't Micky. It's just a minority of one who does!! Laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #154

    Can we justify the use of  the word 'majority' in a post without the empirical evidence to support it?. Without it its just opinion or, at best. gut feeing isn't it? 

    "We" don't Micky. It's just a minority of one who does!! Laughing

    ..Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2016 #155

     + 2  Nor me.

    +3 for me as well. (that's 6 including JVB) 

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited August 2016 #156

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #157

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    You've gone through the entire thread and counted up the "fors" and "againsts" Ian?!! Surprised

    Why didn't anyone think of doing that for Sunday Departures?

    (Hang on, don't you have to have at least a 50% vote of the entire membership to call for action these days? Laughing)

  • Pliers
    Pliers Forum Participant Posts: 1,864
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    edited August 2016 #158

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    I've no interest in reading the statistics whatsoever, Ian, so hope you haven't included me in the 20!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #159

    It could be 5 against and 20 who couldn't care less.

    Assuming pigs fly and you get these figures, Ian, what are you going to do with them other than make a song and dance about them on here?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #161

    .....even if it is totally pointlessWink

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited August 2016 #162

    Who to be honest  is really that "sad" as to be really bothered Undecided

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  • path
    path Forum Participant Posts: 77
    edited August 2016 #164

    With 60 mph winds forecast we would have cancelled.It's far too scary for me to be towing in high winds.

    I dont see it as about scary, its just about common sense

    Yes it is about slowing down and taking it easier than you normally would unless of course the winds are hurricane force which is very very rare.Wink

    peedee

     Have you ever towed in 60 mph winds Pedee towing a 24ft single  axle caravan?

    We towed on the A69 last year on our way to Keswick from Newcastle way.On the tops it was blowing a gale. 

    It was frightening. Of course we slowed down and took it easy. At least we know the ATC works.


     

     

     

  • peedee
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    edited August 2016 #165


     Have you ever towed in 60 mph winds Pedee towing a 24ft single  axle caravan?

     

    Yes I have in a Mistral blowing down the Rhone valley across the A9 with an Eldis Typhoon GTX in tow with a volvo estate. Like you we took it very easy.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited August 2016 #166

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    You can count me  in Ian, I dont really care but am happy to bolster your majorityHappy

    You can count me in as well simply because some decent statistics would aid discussions like this but I am really not bothered if nothing changes at all because I see the Club having less and less influence on how and where I chose to go with my motorhome.

    peedee

  • Bugs
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    edited August 2016 #167

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    Membership of The Caravan Club currently stands at just over 375,000 families, representing around one million caravanners, motorhome owners and trailer tent owners.

    I think I've spotted why the Club might not be in any hurry to respond, Ian!!

    Cheers

    Bugs

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited August 2016 #168


     Have you ever towed in 60 mph winds Pedee towing a 24ft single  axle caravan?

     

    Yes I have in a Mistral blowing down the Rhone valley across the A9 with an Eldis Typhoon GTX in tow with a volvo estate. Like you we took it very easy.

    peedee

    If you have to do it you take it easy, if you dont have to do it then it is both foolish and reckless to do it - as the HGV lorry drivers who are professionals but still end up tipped over, or off a bridge, in such conditions find. 

     

  • peedee
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    edited August 2016 #169

    Membership of The Caravan Club currently stands at just over 375,000 families, representing around one million caravanners, motorhome owners and trailer tent owners.

    I think I've spotted why the Club might not be in any hurry to respond, Ian!!

    Cheers

    Bugs

    But that really tells you very little Bugs other than there are an awful lot of members not using CT! Of more interest would be how has the Club membership grown compared to the growing interest in caravanning and what is the churn in membership? Is it in fact attracting a fair share of the growing market and is it retaining what it attracts to grow the membership.

    peedee

  • compass362
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    edited August 2016 #170

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    Membership of The Caravan Club currently stands at just over 375,000 families, representing around one million caravanners, motorhome owners and trailer tent owners.

    I think I've spotted why the Club might not be in any hurry to respond, Ian!!

    Cheers

    Bugs

    Write your comments here...would the remaining 999,975 CC members please respond to this post , so we can get a fair & unbiased result......thank you

  • Bugs
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    edited August 2016 #171

    Why would we members need to know that Peedee?

    We join the Club to use what it provides not to try to duplicate the work of it's management Frown

    Cheers

    Bugs

  • compass362
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    edited August 2016 #172

    Why would we members need to know that Peedee?

    We join the Club to use what it provides not to try to duplicate the work of it's management Frown

    Cheers

    Bugs

    Write your comments here...is there such a thing , as information burn out........just wondering

  • peedee
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    edited August 2016 #173

    Its about measuring the health of the Club Bugs and not taking wild guesses. Some may be quite happy not to know their subs are being gainfully employed. I hope management are not so inclined.

    peedee

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #174

    Why would we members need to know that Peedee?

    We join the Club to use what it provides not to try to duplicate the work of it's management Frown

    Cheers

    Bugs

    I was wondering much the same thing. Have we lost sight of what this thread was about? 

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  • peedee
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    edited August 2016 #176

    No TW, I'm emphasising the need for good feed back to members. I have lost count of the number of times threads are started complaining about cancellations and the booking system. Such discussion cannot be good for the Club on a public forum. The Club has
    it in its power to set the record straight by making comment and giving members meaningful statistics to kill such debates.

    With that I am off to watch telle.

    peedee

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #177

    Sounds a more useful pastime Smile

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #178

    But not a lot more interestingWink

  • Wildwood
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    edited August 2016 #179

    Some figures were given in percentages were given after the rules changed but not in any depth.  Not sure if these have changed over timre though.

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #180

    So 5 against and 20 for.......that's an even bigger majority than I thought.

    Let's have the numbers CC.......what have you to hide?

    Membership of The Caravan Club currently stands at just over 375,000 families, representing around one million caravanners, motorhome owners and trailer tent owners.

    I think I've spotted why the Club might not be in any hurry to respond, Ian!!

    Cheers

    Bugs

    Write your comments here...would the remaining 999,975 CC members please respond to this post , so we can get a fair & unbiased result......thank you

    Mmmmmm.....999,975 members who apparantly don't have a view. And most of them never post on here about anything.

    I see what you're saying Bugs.......the Club prefer to blunder along in blissful ignorance, rather than take any notice of the majority of those who take the trouble to point out where they've got it wrong.

    You must be very proud to act as a moderator for such a shrewd business and on such a 'popular' forum, Bugs Wink

    Cheers.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2016 #181

    Ian, really?. Do you honestly think the CC will look at a bunch of Computer jockeys who mainly whine-with any belief?, I don't think they're that stupid. If the CC put-'3.5% of bookings are cancelled just before the 72hr cut off' there'd be plenty crying
    foul because it doesn't fit with their personal viewpoint. 

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