Unsightly Flag Poles
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What about charging for flags? There's an idea. At least it might limit the number of flags flown!
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Well it's pouring down this morning but the smiley LSD flag is giving the impression that the suns out. Not all bad after all.
On the point raised by an earlier poster about using the flag so their child can find their way back if they get lost. Surely a child that's not capable of finding their way back to the caravan should not be left unsupervised in the first place.
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we fly the union flag with pride
And so you should but many fly it upside down
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Wardens don't enforce the rule about commercial vehicles because there is no rule about commercial vehicles. We're in our seventh year of membership and there hasn't been a rule about commercial vehicles in that time or we wouldn't have joined.
I have just checked, and when you joined the club the rule was inplace with regard to commercial vehcles (sign writing) However, the rules were relaxed to Wardens discression in 2011.
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Whatever the rule was it didn't apply to us when we joined but I have no problem with people using their work vehicle to tow their caravan. Do you?
In principle no, however, it would be dependant on the type of van and what its work purpose is and Im sure that is why the rule was changed to "Warden discression". I dont think anyone would have issue with a clean transit van used by a joiner or electrician.
However, if it was some dirty truck dripping the remains of the last load or stinking of its last round of fish delivery that is different. Hence the reason for the warden to decide.0 -
Hasn't the rule about commercial vehicles, including sign written ones, been completely dropped now? It's recognised that people have to use their work vehicles for leisure purposes as well and, in my opinion, was a rather elitist rule in the first place.
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Whatever the rule was it didn't apply to us when we joined but I have no problem with people using their work vehicle to tow their caravan. Do you?
In principle no, however, it would be dependant on the type of van and what its work purpose is and Im sure that is why the rule was changed to "Warden discression". I dont think anyone would have issue with a clean transit van used by a joiner or electrician.
However, if it was some dirty truck dripping the remains of the last load or stinking of its last round of fish delivery that is different. Hence the reason for the warden to decide.Could you provide a link to where it says that warden's discretion applies please.
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Whatever the rule was it didn't apply to us when we joined but I have no problem with people using their work vehicle to tow their caravan. Do you?
In principle no, however, it would be dependant on the type of van and what its work purpose is and Im sure that is why the rule was changed to "Warden discression". I dont think anyone would have issue with a clean transit van used by a joiner or electrician.
However, if it was some dirty truck dripping the remains of the last load or stinking of its last round of fish delivery that is different. Hence the reason for the warden to decide.Could you provide a link to where it says that warden's discretion applies please.
Do a search, "Commercial Vehicles on Caravan Club Sites" or read the rules in your CC Handbook
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[quote] Do a search, "Commercial Vehicles on Caravan Club Sites" or read the rules in your CC Handbook [/quote]
I have searched online - links to forum discussions rather than actual rules. I don't keep the handbook so have checked the site rules on the website. Nothing there. I've also checked the bye laws. Nothing there either.
Hence my request for a link so I can try to understand where wardens discretion comes from.
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I am very grateful to the CC for allowing me to use my Pick up on site. It has a beautiful airbrushed picture of me felling a big Swamp Cypress. It has got me lots of local work to the area I stay
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'The flying Feller'(see what I've done there?)
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In principle no, however, it would be dependant on the type of van and what its work purpose is and Im sure that is why the rule was changed to "Warden discression". I dont think anyone would have issue with a clean transit van used by a joiner or electrician. However, if it was some dirty truck dripping the remains of the last load or stinking of its last round of fish delivery that is different. Hence the reason for the warden to decide.
Could you provide a link to where it says that warden's discretion applies please.
Do a search, "Commercial Vehicles on Caravan Club Sites" or read the rules in your CC Handbook
I've searched as well, Stewart, result - zilch.
All I know is that one of the Champions obtained a definitive answer from the staff and posted it on here. It said the rule had been dropped. There was no mention of WD as I recall.
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I was led to belive that if the vechicle was heavily sign written the warden "may" ask you to park it in the car park
i dont have a problem with any vechicle on site....
Nor me, Husky. Anything goes these days. Thank goodness the old days of snobbishness are behind us.
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Although we've strayed into discussing commercial vehicles the same post implied that there were rules against flying flags on site.
Not that I've found
Nor me. Whatever next, I wonder?
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We have used lots of Club Sites and seen lots of commercial vehicles and flags on them. Not a problem with them at all. Some AS sites may have different rules, best to check, as they often do lots of things slightly different.
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I'd still like to see a link as we're getting conflicting info from CC.
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Just been onto Live chat and the rules state that commercial vehicles with sign writing are not permitted but local site wardens may offer discretion. She's currently confirming the flag stance and will get back to me.
Thanks for checking. They could do with making it explicit in the rules if that's the case.
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"You can tow with any vehicle, as long as the wording/signage is not offensive; and the vehicle is not being used for work purposes. However, the warden may ask for the vehicle to be moved from the pitch to the carpark.
Claire"
This was posted by a member of staff in august 2014
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"You can tow with any vehicle, as long as the wording/signage is not offensive; and the vehicle is not being used for work purposes. However, the warden may ask for the vehicle to be moved from the pitch to the carpark.
Claire"
This was posted by a member of staff in august 2014
Nice one HD
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"In answer to EasyT's request for clarification, The Club understands that many people also use their working vehicle as their leisure vehicle and as such made the decision to remove this rule. Therefore, as Claire has said, I can confirm that all Club Sites
will accept any sign written outfit i.e. towing vehicle and or caravan/motorhome/trailer tent, as long as it is not of an offensive nature. It’s up to the warden’s discretion whether a vehicle is asked to park in the car park. This rarely happens and is often
related to the size of the outfit but an explanation will always be given by the warden. I hope this helps clear up any confusion"POSTED BY RO IN 2014
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Whatever the rule was it didn't apply to us when we joined but I have no problem with people using their work vehicle to tow their caravan. Do you?
In principle no, however, it would be dependant on the type of van and what its work purpose is and Im sure that is why the rule was changed to "Warden discression". I dont think anyone would have issue with a clean transit van used by a joiner or electrician.
However, if it was some dirty truck dripping the remains of the last load or stinking of its last round of fish delivery that is different. Hence the reason for the warden to decide.Strangely enough there was a refrigerated LWB Transit type van with motorhome on a pitch next to us last year. He delivered fish somewhere. His sign were magnetic and he removed them on arrival and replaced when he went out for the day. I think that his
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It is not just children that can need some help in finding their way back to a particular 'van. Those who are not spacialy aware often do not notice or remeber detail either. While many caravanners can identify make, model, year of manufacture even, there
are those to whom they are all intimidating identical big white boxes.A distinctive flag is a way to allow these folk a little more freedom, especially on the larger sites and those with trees and bushes creating separate camping areas. So many thanks to the others who also fly flags so that they are not made to feel different.
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"In answer to EasyT's request for clarification, The Club understands that many people also use their working vehicle as their leisure vehicle and as such made the decision to remove this rule. Therefore, as Claire has said, I can confirm that all Club Sites will accept any sign written outfit i.e. towing vehicle and or caravan/motorhome/trailer tent, as long as it is not of an offensive nature. It’s up to the warden’s discretion whether a vehicle is asked to park in the car park. This rarely happens and is often related to the size of the outfit but an explanation will always be given by the warden. I hope this helps clear up any confusion"
POSTED BY RO IN 2014
Well found that dog.
WD applies but not for the reason claimed earlier then.
The trouble is that it conflicts with the advice from live chat.
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"In answer to EasyT's request for clarification, The Club understands that many people also use their working vehicle as their leisure vehicle and as such made the decision to remove this rule. Therefore, as Claire has said, I can confirm that all Club Sites
will accept any sign written outfit i.e. towing vehicle and or caravan/motorhome/trailer tent, as long as it is not of an offensive nature. It’s up to the warden’s discretion whether a vehicle is asked to park in the car park. This rarely happens and is often
related to the size of the outfit but an explanation will always be given by the warden. I hope this helps clear up any confusion"POSTED BY RO IN 2014
Well found that dog.
WD applies but not for the reason claimed earlier then.
The trouble is that it conflicts with the advice from live chat.
That is what I remember, along with the other info from Husky.
Agreed, Jay, they need to remove the conflicts.
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