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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited July 2016 #32

    Maybe BB could get Rochelle to remove His post so it doesn't cause offence. I applaud your sentiments K, well spotted.

  • Randomcamper
    Randomcamper Club Member Posts: 1,062
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    edited July 2016 #33

    Yes,  I started by simply liking Jayess's post.......

    But I do think BB's post deserves further attention....

    Interesting to see how far Equality has got with some members of the club....!

  • RochelleCC
    RochelleCC Forum Participant Posts: 337
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    edited July 2016 #34

    Just a point folks. Is it correct to refer to a member of staff as " the Warden's wife". IMO this is a demeaning job title.... In this day and age surely the couple are both employed as wardens. Women have equal rights to men nowadays.

    On another similar point, the CC is a non discrimatory organisation and in this modern age of diversity the warden couple could equally be two two ladies or two gentlemen.

    K Cool

     

    Hi K,

    As previously mentioned by JayEss, indeed couples are hired together as Wardens, so “Warden’s wife” is not an accurate description. You (and JayEss) are right to point this out!

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited July 2016 #36

    Getting back to IanH's OP, I think with an attitude like the one He witnessed it is becoming evident that some Drivers are not fit or trained to a high enough degree to be allowed to just purchase enormous LV's straight off the shelf. Maybe over a certain
    size all LV drivers should have to go thru a driving test, in real terms(with a large C/van or MH) not just tugging a little trailer around. A large MH is akin to a bus, a large C/van is akin to an articulated truck. It pays to think safe.

  • Hakinbush
    Hakinbush Forum Participant Posts: 286
    edited July 2016 #37

    Rocky a large caravan is worse to tow than a 40 ton artic, cos of the wheel placement, sorry to go off topic but artic wheels are at the rear of the trailor no tail wagging the dog, where as caravan the wheels are at the centre and we all know what that
    can cause..

  • harryb
    harryb Club Member Posts: 1,536
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    edited July 2016 #38

    I replied earlier to this post and then forgot to follow it through. I've missed all the excitement. Frown

    It does seem as though alot of what a member understands to be a site rule is seen as otherwise by the wardens.

     

  • MichaelT
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    edited July 2016 #39

    Getting back to IanH's OP, I think with an attitude like the one He witnessed it is becoming evident that some Drivers are not fit or trained to a high enough degree to be allowed to just purchase enormous LV's straight off the shelf. Maybe over a certain
    size all LV drivers should have to go thru a driving test, in real terms(with a large C/van or MH) not just tugging a little trailer around. A large MH is akin to a bus, a large C/van is akin to an articulated truck. It pays to think safe.

    Write your comments here...I guess for those with a licence granted post 1997 they are limited to what they can tow/drive so they will have to pass a test to pull a large outfit/car combo.

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #40

    It is undeniable that a test where you cannot use a caravan only a light trailer is pretty silly as it has no bearing on the realities of towing a twin axle caravan.

  • little boy blue
    little boy blue Forum Participant Posts: 19
    edited July 2016 #41

    There are some who frequent our sites who clearly only have one thing on their mind, getting to a good pitch etc.  Running after these people and giving them a public rollocking would only cause a scene.  Much better to catch the offender and have a quiet
    word once they have settled IMO.

  • Meads181
    Meads181 Forum Participant Posts: 46
    edited July 2016 #42

    the wardens should have a record of all vehicles on site .If anyone is seen speeding or driving badly on site then head office should be informed and an Email.or letter sent to the cc member warning them about their driving on site ,and a record could made against there membership.

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited July 2016 #43

    the wardens should have a record of all vehicles on site .If anyone is seen speeding or driving badly on site then head office should be informed and an Email.or letter sent to the cc member warning them about their driving on site ,and a record could made
    against there membership.

    Write your comments here...You would need proof to do this so unless you ahd CCTV or other evidence it would be the wardens word against the driver...

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited July 2016 #44

    The warden has a good idea who is speeding as many that do have changed up to second gear - or sometimes even third. My car night travel at 4mph on tickover in 1st gear but will be over 5mph in 2nd gear. 

    If wardens from half a dozen sites had reported the same driver then my money would be that he had been speeding.

  • Randomcamper
    Randomcamper Club Member Posts: 1,062
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    edited July 2016 #45

     it would be the wardens word against the driver...

     

    And you would like to think the club would back the warden!

     

  • Mitsi Fendt
    Mitsi Fendt Forum Participant Posts: 484
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    edited July 2016 #46

    I would like to know why anyone is in such a rush when on holiday and therefore supposed to be relaxing.

  • Pippah45
    Pippah45 Forum Participant Posts: 2,452
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    edited July 2016 #47

    I do think the Wardens/The CLub should tackle this sort of driving - 5 mph is walking speed and very few drivers seem to understand that.  I find it difficult to stick to myself without constantly checking the speedo for confirmation but I definitely dont put lives at risk as a lot of people seem to do.  Perhaps  a Blitz on speeding drivers could make people realise they must slow down?  Borrow those flashing faces perhaps? 

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #48

     it would be the wardens word against the driver...

     

    And you would like to think the club would back the warden!

     

    ...Not so many years ago there was an altercation on site between a warden and "member"that was luckily witnessed, the "member" contacted the club who immediatly suspended the warden,  the witness was obliviose to this as he had left the site, to cut a long story short ,the "member" was taken to court fined and chucked out the club,if the witness had not been traced, who knows where the warden would have stood

  • Randomcamper
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    edited July 2016 #49

    JVB.....an interesting story, but one which obviously relates to a criminal matter with the associated burden of  proof in a criminal court.

    The club only needs to "prove" a case to at most a civil level of proof to take action against speeding on its own sites. And in reality that is all it will ever have, I doubt the club are going to deploy wardens with calibrated speed guns, etc etc.  If
    the Club will not take action against speeders on the word of the warden then there is no point in having a speed limit because it is unenforceable....??

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #50

    That is the knub of the problem,A "member" who is spoken too  for any misdemeaner by the on site staff can deny all knowledge unless it can be proved by evidence or a "wItness" and sadly these days, a "reporter"is not likely to hold their hands up when push
    comes to shove

  • Wildwood
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    edited July 2016 #51

    Generally speaking most people seem to think the club supports wardens in disputes although I have spoken to wardens who feel the opposite. If there was only one complaint it would be premature of the club to suspend a warden and it might be his manner that
    had caused complaints but we will never know.

    It does seem though that when wardens are expected to enforce rules then the club needs to support them.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited July 2016 #52

    I do think the Wardens/The CLub should tackle this sort of driving - 5 mph is walking speed and very few drivers seem to understand that.  I find it difficult to stick to myself without constantly checking the speedo for confirmation but I definitely dont
    put lives at risk as a lot of people seem to do.  Perhaps  a Blitz on speeding drivers could make people realise they must slow down?  Borrow those flashing faces perhaps? 

    I may be fortunate in that my car, with or without caravan, does 4mph in first gear on tickover without interference from me.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2016 #53

    Looking out of the screen would be preferrable to obsessing over whether you're doing 4 or 5 mph on site

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited July 2016 #54

    Looking out of the screen would be preferrable to obsessing over whether you're doing 4 or 5 mph on site

    As I said in my case I do noy need to obsess as tickover is 4mph from the satnav although I don't need to check. 

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited July 2016 #55

     ....

    As I said in my case I do noy need to obsess as tickover is 4mph from the satnav ....

    Is that up hill or down hill? Wink

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited July 2016 #56

     ....

    As I said in my case I do not need to obsess as tickover is 4mph from the satnav ....

    Is that up hill or down hill? Wink

    Both generally. A very few sites where I have needed to use the accelerator - Leek being one. I have been surprised at how well the engine adjusts to most onsite grades without my interference. 

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2016 #57

     ....

    As I said in my case I do noy need to obsess as tickover is 4mph from the satnav ....

    Is that up hill or down hill? Wink

    ...In first gear on tickover with the van on the back our car  will go up or down wthout any noticeable speed diferential of about 4mph

  • nicko
    nicko Forum Participant Posts: 101
    edited July 2016 #58

    when staying at treamble valley valley the wardens had a large chalkboard by the exit barrier for information for campers aswell as a large space at the bottom for registration no,s of speeders (allegedly) wont work for all but might make some think twice