Brighton site - the builders next door
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Wildwood.......why do you say the amounts are small and not worth bothering with??
There is no limit or 'set amount' for an oversailing agreement.
If the contractor doesn't want to pay the amount being asked for as a fee, then he has to find a way to do the job without over-sailing the adjacent property.
So, the adjacent landowner or tenant (in this case the CC) really cannot lose here. And if the contractor has started work without an over-sailing agreement, that puts the contractor in a very weak negotiating position, because he has already commited a
lot of money to siting the crane in it's current position.All I would like is for the Club to confirm that they have an agreement in place (and perhaps comment about the crane boom overhanging caravans)........is that too much to ask, as a member?
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I doubt they would want to let you know the level of any payment as that would be a commercial secret and I cannot see that it matters to us if a payment was obtained.
I would object to the crane being stopped overnight above the site asthat is just plain impolite but as long as the load is not over it when working then it should not pose a safety problem.
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Can I just ask is this a manned crane or a remote crane?
My wife certainly wouldn't want men? Looking into the caravan or onto her from a great height.
I do think it's correct to question this.
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I would object to the crane being stopped overnight above the site
As previously explained tower cranes, when not in use, must be allowed to move with the wind, they cannot be restrained otherwise they would topple over
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Well, I tried to explain how the CC should be collecting extra money here. Their lack of any reaction or comment seems to confirm that the organisation falls very much into the 'not my job' type of organisation when faced with
anything at all unusual.Keep this in mind when site fees and membership goes up next year - not just because of this relatively minor point, but what it represents in terms of their approach to making savings and negotiating deals generally.
It's like dealing with our local council......an overall attitude of 'cannot be bothered'.
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My neighbours had an extension built and to complete it the builders needed to come into my garden for a while.....
I happily agreed to it , for nothing would you believe, because my long term relationship with them is more important to me than grasping a few quid out of them....
Perhaps the club operates a similar policy.....?
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The person who started this thread ,although being "prompted" in numerous posts ,has neither come forward with any form of response from the on site staff ,that has either allayed his percieved concerns or whether any form of "compensation" has been agreed ,which if it was a "problem" as it seems was percieved by the start of the thread,would have been mentioned by a concerned member to the said site staff,who probably would welcome such intervention from someone with such "knowledge" of the situation
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If I was renting a pitch on that site I would object to a crane being swung over my property.
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we do not know what arrangments have been made between the club and the builders, and I wouldn't expect any such business arrangmnets to be posted on here by the club, surely what is agreed between two parties is a private matter between them and perhaps
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JVB - do you seriously believe that the site wardens would / should be involved in drafting and negotiating an over-sailing license?
And.Another side step response
Write your comments here...I believe you were,asked a question about a wardens ability. Beautiful.sidestep Jvb Im really disappointed as I was so looking forward to.your answer.
K
.Not in the slightest percieved as that, more a completely inapropriate as usual side step responce to a post that if read does not emply anything of the sort
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That is probably right but a word with the site staff about a percieved problem by a person who it seems by the posts has "profesional knowledge" would have saved pages of the usual suposition
you're right and i did suggest it to alleviate any safety concerns which the OP seemed to be concerned about on page one (quote
Does the CC think that this is safe practise? then changed their mind on page 2 when they decided to be 'perfectly honest' that there wasn't any safety fears.0 -
That is probably right but a word with the site staff about a percieved problem by a person who it seems by the posts has "profesional knowledge" would have saved pages of the usual suposition
you're right and i did suggest it to alleviate any safety concerns which the OP seemed to be concerned about on page one (quote
Does the CC think that this is safe practise? then changed their mind on page 2 when they decided to be 'perfectly honest' that there wasn't any safety fears...Now theres a suprise, not, and as usual never actually gives a difinitive answer to any posts started by said person or sensible responses
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Ian
No where in this thread. as far as I can see, have you mentioned whether you discussed this perceived problem with site staff. I somehow doubt that anyone from the Club will answer your question on this forum, although you have the ability yourself to
raise this with the Community Manager either by reporting your OP or e-mailing her direct. With matters of this sort I feel it is better to write directly to Club HQ as I doubt they will want to discuss any contractural conditions on a public forum but as
an individual you may get a reasonable explanation. Whilst we all appreciate HQ staff commenting on discussion here we will devalue that input if we expect every little detail to be reported back to us which I am not sure is in the interests of the majority
of the members here.David
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David - I've done as you suggested, thank you.
I had understood that Club staff monitored the forum and that this was a good way to provide feed-back. Clearly I was wrong.
I have to say that it is disappointing that certain members have again tried to take the opportunity of using the forum to attack another member on this issue and have thereby 'clouded' the point to some degree. I was, after all, simply raising an issue
that could give the Club additional income and also might have been of concern to some members on that site. Hardly something to be criticised for, I would have thought.0 -
David - I've done as you suggested, thank you.
I had understood that Club staff monitored the forum and that this was a good way to provide feed-back. Clearly I was wrong.
I have to say that it is disappointing that certain members have again tried to take the opportunity of using the forum to attack another member on this issue and have thereby 'clouded' the point to some degree. I was, after all, simply raising an issue that could give the Club additional income and also might have been of concern to some members on that site. Hardly something to be criticised for, I would have thought.
Write your comments here...good post - accurate and relevant
K
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David - I've done as you suggested, thank you.
I had understood that Club staff monitored the forum and that this was a good way to provide feed-back. Clearly I was wrong.
I have to say that it is disappointing that certain members have again tried to take the opportunity of using the forum to attack another member on this issue and have thereby 'clouded' the point to some degree. I was, after all, simply raising an issue
that could give the Club additional income and also might have been of concern to some members on that site. Hardly something to be criticised for, I would have thought.Write your comments here...HMMMMM
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Hi IanH,
I've flagged this up with Sites Operations and I'll let you know their response.
Thanks
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
...Thank you Rochelle it just shows if the proer channels are followed by members about their concens they can normally be allayed
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
Wether there is an over sailing licence probably isn't of great importance to most. However, surely the bit about the crane having to be in freewheel mode should have been communicated to those staying, by notices at reception and blocks and perhaps a mention
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It's good to know that the club seems to know what it's doing and did set up such a licence. It would be intersting how many pitches are affected, it can't be the whole site?
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
Wether there is an over sailing licence probably isn't of great importance to most. However, surely the bit about the crane having to be in freewheel mode should have been communicated to those staying, by notices at reception and blocks and perhaps a mention
on arrival....How do we know there is not any info on site
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
Wether there is an over sailing licence probably isn't of great importance to most. However, surely the bit about the crane having to be in freewheel mode should have been communicated to those staying, by notices at reception and blocks and perhaps a mention
on arrival....How do we know there is not any info on site
If there was I would have expected R's response to mention it, as it would have been the obvious thing to do. However, as you say we do not know definitively, perhaps the club could comment.
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Hi Ian,
Response from the Sites team is as follows:
"We do have an oversailing licence in place with the contractors. Regarding the crane overhanging the site overnight, it has to remain in freewheel mode overnight because of wind, as this is the safest way to leave it."
Hope this answers your question!
Wether there is an over sailing licence probably isn't of great importance to most. However, surely the bit about the crane having to be in freewheel mode should have been communicated to those staying, by notices at reception and blocks and perhaps a mention
on arrival....How do we know there is not any info on site
If there was I would have expected R's response to mention it, as it would have been the obvious thing to do. However, as you say we do not know definitively, perhaps the club could comment.
...Remember the response from sites team was to a "question" only
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