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Not a full test yet but on the 3 sites that I looked at for the Lakes in Sept ALL were more expensive than the CC sites not by much though.
2nd September is last week day of the school holidays this year in this part of the country.
How does the school holiday period compare? That is the relevant point of comparison.
Our first week of the school holidays in July has our first stay on a CC site at £40 per night mid week non awning, 120 pitches, the second stay is £23 per night weekend awning on a less crowded site that has 15 pitches, like for like on site facilities
ie bog (loo of the year award winner last year), shower, shop, HS, water drainage and leccy on the pitch; both next door to attractions. The smaller site has games room and playing field / climbing frame thingy for kids, that the CC site has a tiny play area.Our second week at the end of the holidays is £23 per night for a grass pitch with EHU, 400 yards from a beach so easy to walk to. The nearest CC site requires a drive to a beach and is £33 per night for grass pitch.
The cost difference is sufficient to cover the diesel in the first week, and diesel plus food for the second.
..Please can you let us all know these cheaper sites in peak period as we can then also have a choice
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yres i paid £240. for a week at fallbarrow but that was a fully serviced pitch, with club house (not for me) but its there if i wanted it, the site i was looking at was bunree in scotland, we are looking in to going next june, £515 to hire a piece of concreat and some electric, i know they have to make a profit but thats a joke, i feel for people on a buget with a family,
How many of you are there. A week for a family of 4 at Bunree this year, spring bank was £236.5, the rest of June £186.20.
The price she quoted of £515 was for a 2 week holiday
Fair enough, but I think my confusion was justified as the post directly relates a week at fallbarrow to the £515. Even the OP, which I have now looked at, does not mention June but August and September. If comparisons are to be made it should be clear what is being compared. Two weeks at Bunree in June for 3 adults would be £467.60, if the first week was in the spring bankholiday period and £427.00 if later on in June. If Bunree had service pitches, it would cost another £49 for two weeks. so comparable to fallbarrow, once clear of the bank holiday.
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Not a full test yet but on the 3 sites that I looked at for the Lakes in Sept ALL were more expensive than the CC sites not by much though.
2nd September is last week day of the school holidays this year in this part of the country.
How does the school holiday period compare? That is the relevant point of comparison.
Our first week of the school holidays in July has our first stay on a CC site at £40 per night mid week non awning, 120 pitches, the second stay is £23 per night weekend awning on a less crowded site that has 15 pitches, like for like on site facilities
ie bog (loo of the year award winner last year), shower, shop, HS, water drainage and leccy on the pitch; both next door to attractions. The smaller site has games room and playing field / climbing frame thingy for kids, that the CC site has a tiny play area.Our second week at the end of the holidays is £23 per night for a grass pitch with EHU, 400 yards from a beach so easy to walk to. The nearest CC site requires a drive to a beach and is £33 per night for grass pitch.
The cost difference is sufficient to cover the diesel in the first week, and diesel plus food for the second.
..Please can you let us all know these cheaper sites in peak period as we can then also have a choice
Read my first post on this thread. I thought putting analysis and detail would have been useful, evidently not if it isn't read
I did write a repeat and expanded reply, but it timed out and I lost it 
We were going to use a CL for second part of next week, that was full. The CL owner put us onto the site as it was a better option than the 2 nearest CC sites, apparently.
Our last summer school holiday is on a site at New Polzeath, that looks quirky, which is the appeal
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having used club sites for over 35yrs i have to say that i also feel the prices are becoming a little steep for what you get. This will not however stop me using them as i pick my sites on location not price and only require electric hook up, waste and water.
I know people have varied requirements for their Holidays but unless you can compare sites with identical facilities and locations then the comparison is pointless IMO. The only thing i will say in defence of the club is that the sites do tend to be kept generally
to a better standard than other comparable sites.But overall i still pick on location not price so who am i to say what is expensive and what isn't
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I have not seen next years prices and am not sure if the OP is looking at a club site or if so which but may have missed it in the large number of replies on this thread.
There is a lot of competition in Devon and Cornwall and in this months PC they show a lot of nice looking sites in Cornwall at remarkably low prices. I am afraid the only answer is that if you feel the site you are looking at is overpriced vote with you
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I like it when posters use actualities, as in my post. Theorising about possible prices is useless. I used the 3 for 2 Morris Leisure to find their sites which proved superb. Now happy to pay £27-50 at peak which still bears up with say Brecon Beacons.
By the way that is the ony CC site that I woud recommend on a like for like basis to those we have used over the last 12 months or so.0 -
Never been to Sandy Balls, although my brother borrowed our MH to take his boys there for a school summer holiday. No idea of what the price was. They had a great holiday though.
I saw the SB offer thread on here and enquired, but it wasn't available during the school holidays when we were available to go on holiday.
We use a different site.
Have used Forest Holidays / Holidays in the Forest in the early days of MH ownership, but FH are now priced around the Centenial CC site price, which is far higher than where we use, again for less facilities
Are holiday camps like Butlins? Butlins don't do tourers do they? I understand from family members with pre school age children, Butlins is a good value holiday on their offers out of peak times. We've visited for the day on vouchers available to the holiday
makers on site for free and won giant bars of Dairy Milk in the penny arcadesButlins at Minehead in the early 1960's was a good family holiday, my memory tells me. That was before parents got a tourer
Write your comments here...I believe that Butlins at Skegness do tourers
So Butlins see the investment in attracting caravanning families worthwhile. Wonder what the pitch price is in school holidays.
Interesting how Butlins have constantly reinvented their offering to attract families over the decades. When we visited Minehead we had visions of cheap and cheerful, but were pleasantly surprised by the full fat all inclusive offering that off peak delivered
to family members.I sense from this thread, and others, any factual comments from family holiday makers in respect of the CC fees being the highest is taken as 'how dare you young whippersnappers criticise us died in the wool long term members of the CC and our choices'.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The simple fact is CC fees are higher for families, when families are able to take their holidays. Why should the CC not be made aware of these facts and endeavour to attract families in peak times. The peak times we
have been on CC sites have not seen them full to bursting, even prime sites. Todays families are tomorrows off peak users when the parents become empty nesters or their offspring go off on holiday on their own.I would venture todays families are probably under greater financial pressures than their parents generation and look harder for where to spend their pounds. It would be sensible for the CC to at least look at the reasons members give.
Just add - were are off to skegness for 4 nights in aug with our tourer. our cost was £360. Very steep but much cheaper than the £1k+ they wanted for thier hotel with 5 of us.
Butlins out priced us years ago when our twins came along and they knocked down the cheaper apparments.
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yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
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I have carried out an analysis of our first year of caravan ownership and CC membership. As a family of 3 we are tied to school holidays and weekends away that are in reach in the autumn/winter/spring.
In summary, the CC charges the most for less. The standard of amenities and pitches on the sites we have been are equitable, wether we use them or not, pitches are larger on commercial sites. The only 'hidden' charges we have seen are on the CC App, where
you locate a site and are greeted by 'choose pich type', once filled in you get 'pitches available from £xxx', you then go to book and you are hit with 'hidden extras' of 'number of adults' + 'number of children'. So the headline pitch cost is not actually
a true reflection of CC prices.Here is a comparison of our actual site fees for our first year:
Lowest cost night fully serviced pitch with leisure facilities = £18 on a commercial site. New Forest
Fully serviced pitch night in school summer holidays = £30 on a commercial site with leisure facilities. Watergate Bay, Cornwall
Grass pitch with electric night in school summer holidays = £33 on CC site. Trewhetthet Farm
Fully serviced CC pitch night in school summer holidays = £40 Charsworth
Serviced pitch night in school holidays = £23 on a commercial site near Alton Towers. Little Micklin
Fully serviced pitch night with leisure facilities at Christmas = £23 on a commercial site. New Forest
Easter holidays CC at Cheddar £34.40 per night. Ruda £28 per night including unlimited water slide park thingy, entertainment for children and on the beach burrows.
There are no CC sites open at Xmas near to us, the 4 closest are closed for winter and early spring, so of no use to us.
Facilities on commercial sites above include swimming pool, fitness facilities, bar, retaraunt, enternatinment.
The simple fact for us is that CC sites are higher priced when we can use them. We accept that and have taken a second year membership. If CC want our exclusive custom, the prices have to be reduced, and facilities like swimming pools, entertainment and
sports facilities for little un have to be available. We have combined both CC and commercial sites on our longer holidays over summer school holiday and Easter where the CC has cost more for less, a simple fact that is not readily understood by those that
don't have families or don't venture off CC sites but compare by hearsay and internet information.We have used CL's and will continue to to for weekend visits to family as they are a valuable resource.
I'd welcome similar factual comparisons from others ho reckon the CC is not the higher priced options in order to provide informed debate, Factual information by means of prices are few and far between on CT, what is being 'hidden' to coin a phrase?
I agree with this post. We also find they charge more on weekends with other AA award winning sites with more faciliites and where you can book a pitch coming in cheaper.
As a new CC member I am seeing the attaraction to the club is for people without children who appreciate the consistency and uniformity of the sites. For us the plus is to be able to book and cancel within 72 hours notice (we always provide much more notice
than that). Otherwise I think I shall focus on commerical sites or try CC&C sites.0 -
yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows 1182 pitches available on 20 sites in the Cotswold region alone. A quick scan of the regions shows denser clusters of double and
triple digit availability in all but 1 region.Even Chatsworth has vacancies throughout August in the week.
A good exercise for school children to learn analysis skills would be to use the CC data and produce reports on the number of available pitches vs bookings across the seasons.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available.
Perhaps families are not booking CC sites in the peak holiday period due to the price. Non family members are not booking them either by the looks of things as they appear to believe families have booked them up
Perhaps it is easier for posters to moan and whine than carry out basic checks using the resource available to all on CT.
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To high for how many?,if there are not enough pitches for the amount of members who cannot find spaces
See my post above, there are tens of thousands of pitches available showing on the late availability section.
...The "fairweather" holiday makers have yet to decide,it is not so in the honeypot areas,and a check of 3 comercials have thrown up pitches also,
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A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows
1182 pitchesThis highly misleading tabloid type headline, its sounds a lot but when you do some real analysis and look at the
percentage occupancy rates that shows different picture. Its look about over 70% across the 20 sites. Also that figure is for all pitch types. Even on the sites showing a lot of pitches avaiable it looks like over 60%0 -
To high for how many?,if there are not enough pitches for the amount of members who cannot find spaces
See my post above, there are tens of thousands of pitches available showing on the late availability section.
...The "fairweather" holiday makers have yet to decide,it is not so in the honeypot areas,and a check of 3 comercials have thrown up pitches also,
Where are the honeypot areas? Is Chatsworth Park not the honeypot site? I might count the empty pitches when there next week in the school holidays as we walk from our pitch to go through the secret door
Your post refers to members, ergo CC sites, of which there are clearly showing late availability in the tens of thousands of pitches on the first school summer holiday weekend alone.
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To high for how many?,if there are not enough pitches for the amount of members who cannot find spaces
See my post above, there are tens of thousands of pitches available showing on the late availability section.
...The "fairweather" holiday makers have yet to decide,it is not so in the honeypot areas,and a check of 3 comercials have thrown up pitches also,
Where are the honeypot areas? Is Chatsworth Park not the honeypot site? I might count the empty pitches when there next week in the school holidays as we walk from our pitch to go through the secret door
Your post refers to members, ergo CC sites, of which there are clearly showing late availability in the tens of thousands of pitches on the first school summer holiday weekend alone.
Write your comments here...
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yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows 1182 pitches available on 20 sites in the Cotswold region alone. A quick scan of the regions shows denser clusters of double and
triple digit availability in all but 1 region.Even Chatsworth has vacancies throughout August in the week.
A good exercise for school children to learn analysis skills would be to use the CC data and produce reports on the number of available pitches vs bookings across the seasons.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available.
Perhaps families are not booking CC sites in the peak holiday period due to the price. Non family members are not booking them either by the looks of things as they appear to believe families have booked them up
Perhaps it is easier for posters to moan and whine than carry out basic checks using the resource available to all on CT.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a
scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches availableI really think you haven't a clue what a scatter diagram is!
Do you always resort to insulting people you know nothing about, when you don't agree with a post.
I've noticed you pull people up on grammatical and contextual interpretations, but appear to have poor comprehension of high level analysis techniques applied in the commercial world. But then what would I know, given my profession
I'm not insulting you I'm simply stating a fact. You cannot use a scatter diagram in this case. I simply can't see how you can use a scatter diagram in such a case, A scatter diagram uses (usually) two sets of data ( ie shoe sizes and height ) to see if
there is a conection between them. However please tell me how you would plot such a scatter for the late availabily data.PS I never pick on grammer
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Oh no not another "expert" using tabloid style headlines to as usual give false impressions
....ah, i see you added the 'tabloid style headlines' bit after you read Corners posting the same words...
did you copy other kids' homework, too
Write your comments here...my post and corners crossed as i only noticed his after my post was amended when I noticed it had missed text
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Oh no not another "expert"
Oh no, not another non-expert
so, 60-70% occupancy now denotes full?
some (to use the latest Brexit 'speak) might say that 30-40% of the pitches on many sites are empty
a good try BB but no ruffle
Please point out where I said sites were full?
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yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows 1182 pitches available on 20 sites in the Cotswold region alone. A quick scan of the regions shows denser clusters of double and
triple digit availability in all but 1 region.Even Chatsworth has vacancies throughout August in the week.
A good exercise for school children to learn analysis skills would be to use the CC data and produce reports on the number of available pitches vs bookings across the seasons.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available.
Perhaps families are not booking CC sites in the peak holiday period due to the price. Non family members are not booking them either by the looks of things as they appear to believe families have booked them up
Perhaps it is easier for posters to moan and whine than carry out basic checks using the resource available to all on CT.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a
scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches availableI really think you haven't a clue what a scatter diagram is!
Do you always resort to insulting people you know nothing about, when you don't agree with a post.
I've noticed you pull people up on grammatical and contextual interpretations, but appear to have poor comprehension of high level analysis techniques applied in the commercial world. But then what would I know, given my profession
I'm not insulting you I'm simply stating a fact. You cannot use a scatter diagram in this case. I simply can't see how you can use a scatter diagram in such a case, A scatter diagram uses (usually) two sets of data ( ie shoe sizes and height ) to see if
there is a conection between them. However please tell me how you would plot such a scatter for the late availabily data.PS I never pick on grammer
Would you agree that establishing boundary conditions is critical to analysis, and those boundary conditions determine the outcome of the analysis?
The boundary conditions you gave were 'try booking a pitch for the next few weeks'. There was no detail in pitch type, or site location. From your boundary conditions I provided factual numbers from the data available to all on CT and recorded those
actual numbers, then undertook a quick and dirty, as reported in the text alongside my results, review of the remaining visible data.My quick and dirty was not then transposed to your evident modus operandi of insulting people, and tabloid headline (your phrase probably taken from populist culture) percentages, that is at best lazy, at worse defending the indefensible.
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Oh no not another "expert" using tabloid style headlines to as usual give false impressions
....ah, i see you added the 'tabloid style headlines' bit after you read Corners posting the same words...
did you copy other kids' homework, too
a good post which moves the thread along with some useful information
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yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows 1182 pitches available on 20 sites in the Cotswold region alone. A quick scan of the regions shows denser clusters of double and
triple digit availability in all but 1 region.Even Chatsworth has vacancies throughout August in the week.
A good exercise for school children to learn analysis skills would be to use the CC data and produce reports on the number of available pitches vs bookings across the seasons.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available.
Perhaps families are not booking CC sites in the peak holiday period due to the price. Non family members are not booking them either by the looks of things as they appear to believe families have booked them up
Perhaps it is easier for posters to moan and whine than carry out basic checks using the resource available to all on CT.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a
scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches availableI really think you haven't a clue what a scatter diagram is!
Do you always resort to insulting people you know nothing about, when you don't agree with a post.
I've noticed you pull people up on grammatical and contextual interpretations, but appear to have poor comprehension of high level analysis techniques applied in the commercial world. But then what would I know, given my profession
I'm not insulting you I'm simply stating a fact. You cannot use a scatter diagram in this case. I simply can't see how you can use a scatter diagram in such a case, A scatter diagram uses (usually) two sets of data ( ie shoe sizes and height ) to see if
there is a conection between them. However please tell me how you would plot such a scatter for the late availabily data.PS I never pick on grammer
Would you agree that establishing boundary conditions is critical to analysis, and those boundary conditions determine the outcome of the analysis?
The boundary conditions you gave were 'try booking a pitch for the next few weeks'. There was no detail in pitch type, or site location. From your boundary conditions I provided factual numbers from the data available to all on CT and recorded those
actual numbers, then undertook a quick and dirty, as reported in the text alongside my results, review of the remaining visible data.My quick and dirty was not then transposed to your evident modus operandi of insulting people, and tabloid headline (your phrase probably taken from populist culture) percentages, that is at best lazy, at worse defending the indefensible.
yes all very good, but how would plot a scatter diagram for late availability?
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yes agree, try booking a pitch for the next few weeks
A quick check on the late availability section of the CC web site for the first weekend of the school summer holidays shows 1182 pitches available on 20 sites in the Cotswold region alone. A quick scan of the regions shows denser clusters of double and triple digit availability in all but 1 region.
Even Chatsworth has vacancies throughout August in the week.
A good exercise for school children to learn analysis skills would be to use the CC data and produce reports on the number of available pitches vs bookings across the seasons.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available.
Perhaps families are not booking CC sites in the peak holiday period due to the price. Non family members are not booking them either by the looks of things as they appear to believe families have booked them up
Perhaps it is easier for posters to moan and whine than carry out basic checks using the resource available to all on CT.
A quick and dirty extrapolation of the first weekend of school summer holidays by viewing the CC late availability grid as a scatter diagram indicates there are tens of thousands of pitches available
I really think you haven't a clue what a scatter diagram is!
Do you always resort to insulting people you know nothing about, when you don't agree with a post.
I've noticed you pull people up on grammatical and contextual interpretations, but appear to have poor comprehension of high level analysis techniques applied in the commercial world. But then what would I know, given my profession
I'm not insulting you I'm simply stating a fact. You cannot use a scatter diagram in this case. I simply can't see how you can use a scatter diagram in such a case, A scatter diagram uses (usually) two sets of data ( ie shoe sizes and height ) to see if there is a conection between them. However please tell me how you would plot such a scatter for the late availabily data.
PS I never pick on grammer
Would you agree that establishing boundary conditions is critical to analysis, and those boundary conditions determine the outcome of the analysis?
The boundary conditions you gave were 'try booking a pitch for the next few weeks'. There was no detail in pitch type, or site location. From your boundary conditions I provided factual numbers from the data available to all on CT and recorded those actual numbers, then undertook a quick and dirty, as reported in the text alongside my results, review of the remaining visible data.
My quick and dirty was not then transposed to your evident modus operandi of insulting people, and tabloid headline (your phrase probably taken from populist culture) percentages, that is at best lazy, at worse defending the indefensible.
yes all very good, but how would plot a scatter diagram for late availability?
Write your comments here...I see the "Use a Jack Hammer to crack an egg" theory has raised it's head on the forum again.
There is a sense called Common Sense which supersedes all that nonsense
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