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I stopped smoking over 30 years ago but do accept that some people struggle to give up or simply want to carry on smoking despite the health warnings.
On the subject of fag ends maybe we should empower the wardens to impose a fixed penalty fine for dropping litter, the same as some towns are now enforcing.
See below.
Remember
- There will be no warnings. If you drop litter (including cigarette butts or chewing gum) you will be issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice of £80.
- That you can use bins without ashtrays, extinguish the cigarette first, then place it in the bin.
- Not having a bin to hand is not an excuse for littering.
- Placing a cigarette end down a drain is still an offence which will result in a fine.
- The offence is complete once the item is deposited and the person walks away.
Failing to give your name and address is an offence under the Environment Protection Act 1990 Section 88 (8B).
Furthermore, failure to comply will result in compulsory attendance at next year's COTY where you will be instructed in the craft of pitch cleanliness and judged accordingly.
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Another beating of smokers, my wife and I both smoke in our awning have a spinning ashtray and never flick our but ends on site. Couple of thoughts statistics show that only 20% of revenue collected from cigarette sales is spent on the extra cost of treating
smoke related diseases and obesity costs far more to the NHS than smoking. As previously stated a number of things can upset people on site Children, Dogs, noise etc but this is a hobby for everyone and as such we should all just learn to get a longWrite your comments here...yes it's entirely up to the individual if they choose to smoke , BUT keep it to yourself's in your area so to speak and use ashtrays not the ground have respect for others as you would like them to respect you and yes everyone's
happynot sure knocking larger people is an excuse for smokers to feel better about themselves though
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Careful or this thread could go up in smoke
I think it's gone to pot already
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Another beating of smokers, my wife and I both smoke in our awning have a spinning ashtray and never flick our but ends on site. Couple of thoughts statistics show that only 20% of revenue collected from cigarette sales is spent on the extra cost of treating
smoke related diseases and obesity costs far more to the NHS than smoking. As previously stated a number of things can upset people on site Children, Dogs, noise etc but this is a hobby for everyone and as such we should all just learn to get a longNot wanting to upset you or anyone, and you are perfectly entitled to smoke as and where you do. But it isn't a hobby, it is a medically determined addiction, one that for some is a huge part of their lives, and very very difficult to give up. Others without
the addiction can at times be placed in a difficult and unpleasant situation, without the knowledge of the addict. I don't think most smokers want to cause any problems, but it can be awkward sometimes.0 -
Another beating of smokers, my wife and I both smoke in our awning have a spinning ashtray and never flick our but ends on site. Couple of thoughts statistics show that only 20% of revenue collected from cigarette sales is spent on the extra cost of treating
smoke related diseases and obesity costs far more to the NHS than smoking. As previously stated a number of things can upset people on site Children, Dogs, noise etc but this is a hobby for everyone and as such we should all just learn to get a longNot wanting to upset you or anyone, and you are perfectly entitled to smoke as and where you do. But it isn't a hobby, it is a medically determined addiction, one that for some is a huge part of their lives, and very very difficult to give up. Others without
the addiction can at times be placed in a difficult and unpleasant situation, without the knowledge of the addict. I don't think most smokers want to cause any problems, but it can be awkward sometimes.I was saying that Caravanning, Motorhome etc is the hobby not smoking
and as such you are going to meet all sorts of people young
and old with different views and likes and as such we all need to be tolerant. Litter aside we all just need to get along.0 -
I honestly hadn't intended to launch a discussion where anyone felt victimised. I was trying to suggest a possible way to keep everyone happy. Of course smokers should be able to enjoy caravanning. Now that hotels, restaurants etc are all non smoking I imagine
that being able to smoke in comfort is one of the additional advantages of caravan holidays. I was just seeking a solution to having our 'van filled with smoke from neighbours (and their friends) who sat in front of their awning, smoking heavily, at my three
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Another beating of smokers, my wife and I both smoke in our awning have a spinning ashtray and never flick our but ends on site. Couple of thoughts statistics show that only 20% of revenue collected from cigarette sales is spent on the extra cost of treating
smoke related diseases and obesity costs far more to the NHS than smoking. As previously stated a number of things can upset people on site Children, Dogs, noise etc but this is a hobby for everyone and as such we should all just learn to get a longI dont think anyone is beating smokers here but if you do smoke and it affects anyone near to you then for me you have a duty of care to do someting about it.It may be a hobby to some but to others it can be anti social habbit and just not acceptable anymore
at close quarters.peter.
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Another beating of smokers, my wife and I both smoke in our awning have a spinning ashtray and never flick our but ends on site. Couple of thoughts statistics show that only 20% of revenue collected from cigarette sales is spent on the extra cost of treating
smoke related diseases and obesity costs far more to the NHS than smoking. As previously stated a number of things can upset people on site Children, Dogs, noise etc but this is a hobby for everyone and as such we should all just learn to get a longNot wanting to upset you or anyone, and you are perfectly entitled to smoke as and where you do. But it isn't a hobby, it is a medically determined addiction, one that for some is a huge part of their lives, and very very difficult to give up. Others without
the addiction can at times be placed in a difficult and unpleasant situation, without the knowledge of the addict. I don't think most smokers want to cause any problems, but it can be awkward sometimes.I was saying that Caravanning, Motorhome etc is the hobby not smoking
and as such you are going to meet all sorts of people young
and old with different views and likes and as such we all need to be tolerant. Litter aside we all just need to get along.Sorry, I totally misunderstood your post! My apologies.
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if you do smoke and it affects anyone near to you then for me you have a duty of care to do someting about it.
I dont smoke but it doesnt bother me if others do. You could argue the same about any behaviour - personally I find noisy people in their awnings much more problematic as I tend to go to bed early and they stop me sleeping so I wished they felt they had a duty of care to do something about it.
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with respect I dont think inhaling smoke from ten yards away is going to effect you anymore than sitting outside your van whilst car go past with emmisions of god knows what coming out of there exhaust or any other type of air pollution that one may encounter
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car go past with emmisions of god knows what coming out of there exhaust
The smokers do not go past. It is constant. The smell is there even once the tobacco has burned out.
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with respect I dont think inhaling smoke from ten yards away is going to effect you anymore than sitting outside your van whilst car go past with emmisions of god knows what coming out of there exhaust or any other type of air pollution that one may encounter on a daily basis.
Dont get me wrong i see your point and its a good one but if its practical to do something about fumes then why not do it ?.Banning vehicles from inner cities for instance is practical but banning vehicles everywhere is,nt.Inhaleing smoke is not good for you wether its from ten yards or ten miles.Its a bit of a balancing act really but passive smokeing is a proven hazard to the health of others and if we can prevent that in any way then why not.
peter.
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fare point however I think that all has been done with regard to were one may smoke other than a complete ban which obviously is not only unrealistic but also one step away from a complete dictatorial society were free choice is totally removed. Smokers
can no longer enjoy there chosen vice other than outside (even some outdoor public places are smok free) or there own homes.0 -
fare point however I think that all has been done with regard to were one may smoke other than a complete ban which obviously is not only unrealistic but also one step away from a complete dictatorial society were free choice is totally removed. Smokers
can no longer enjoy there chosen vice other than outside (even some outdoor public places are smok free) or there own homes.I'm afraid when it comes to smoking there shouldn't be any free choice and this is my personal opinion. I would be in favour of a complete ban in public places. It's a filthy, dirty, disgusting habit. I do appreciate there are considerate smokers but
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Despite my father being killed by smoking and several of my wifes family who smoked dying of lung cancer it is a free country to some extent. I feel banning it would drive it underground so you have to accomodate it to some extent and I would think we probably
have got it near enough right and we simply have to be a little accomodating for those now unable to kick the habit. A little accomodation and consideration by both sides is needed.0 -
I don't mind people going underground to smoke......so long as we don't have to endure their filthy habit.
Those 'unable to kick the habit' simply want to smoke more than they want to stop, I'm afraid.
Plenty of people stop smoking in the same way that I stopped....you stop buying cigarettes, stop putting them in your mouth and stop lighting them. That's all there is to it.
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Yes BMB i agree with you but the problem is that makeing a noise never really harmed anyones health whereas inhaleing smoke can and thats the difference.
peter.
Dont you believe it Peter - depriving me of my sleep could be very harmful to people's health!! I am always so very tempted to start banging about outside their caravan or emptying the waste master at 6am.
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Plenty of people stop smoking in the same way that I stopped....you stop buying cigarettes, stop putting them in your mouth and stop lighting them. That's all there is to it.
And there are plenty that struggle to stop too ...... if only it was that simple/easy
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Plenty of people stop smoking in the same way that I stopped....you stop buying cigarettes, stop putting them in your mouth and stop lighting them. That's all there is to it.
And there are plenty that struggle to stop too ...... if only it was that simple/easy
I didn't say it was easy, but it can be done if there is a will to do so.
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There is a sure fire way to stop smoking that works for everyone. Death.
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Given the reputed impending black hole in the economy in the event of Brexit, the obvious solution is to quadruple the tax on tobacco. That should slow it down a bit.
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I don't mind people going underground to smoke......so long as we don't have to endure their filthy habit.
Those 'unable to kick the habit' simply want to smoke more than they want to stop, I'm afraid.
Plenty of people stop smoking in the same way that I stopped....you stop buying cigarettes, stop putting them in your mouth and stop lighting them. That's all there is to it.
Write your comments here...Exactly. Its a lifestyle choice. If somebody wants to give up smoking, just go ahead and stop.
If they dont want to give up they will continue smoking.
I, like most of my friends gave up many years ago. It takes a wee bit determination but is easily achievable.
K
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I don't mind people going underground to smoke......so long as we don't have to endure their filthy habit.
Those 'unable to kick the habit' simply want to smoke more than they want to stop, I'm afraid.
Plenty of people stop smoking in the same way that I stopped....you stop buying cigarettes, stop putting them in your mouth and stop lighting them. That's all there is to it.
Write your comments here...Exactly. Its a lifestyle choice. If somebody wants to give up smoking, just go ahead and stop.
If they dont want to give up they will continue smoking.
I, like most of my friends gave up many years ago. It takes a wee bit determination but is easily achievable.
K
It's achievable, K, although I wouldn't say easily. It's a medically recognised addiction and for some it can be a real struggle. I found it relatively easy but recognise that others don't and they need help and support.
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Sometimes it's incentive. Some years ago a friends, then, quite young boys clubbed together and used their pocket money to buy him a 'stop smoking' kit. He said if it meant that much to them he'd do it. He did, without the kit too. Did put on a bit of weight
initially sucking mints to replace the cigarettes, but was surprised at the money he saved0 -
I know most none smokers struggle with the following statement BUT believe it or not many of us smoke because we enjoy it. I smoke cigars and have no desire to stop. I have stopped in the past for seven years or so, I even had a similar period of abstinence
from alcohol. Point is do not think that every smoker smokes because he cant stop nut wihes he could.0
