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  • Navigateur
    Navigateur Club Member Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited June 2016 #92

    Technically there are two parts to people smoking and both of them need to be adressed.  As in the post above, there are people who enjoy the process of doing it - whether the pallaver, the break from work, the chance to chat, sucking with the lips, etc.

    The other part is that nicotine alone is more addictive than heroin, and there are another good half dozen addictive chemicals in the smoke.

    Failure to stop can usually be traced to not dealing satisfactorily with both halves. Also, what the smoker tastes is not what the non-smokers around him/her taste. The smokers taste is radically changed and reduced for all flavours, and sometimes replacing
    tobacco with a sweet taste is unpleasant for them.

  • mbee1
    mbee1 Forum Participant Posts: 557
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    edited June 2016 #93

    They should be £20 a packet and smokers should be made to take out private medical insurance to stop a drain on the NHS.

  • Mitsi Fendt
    Mitsi Fendt Forum Participant Posts: 484
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    edited June 2016 #94

    There is a sure fire way to stop smoking that works for everyone. Death.

    But how many do they take with them having inflicted others with their secondhand smoke. I say thais as someone who has never smoked but ended up with a smoking related disease. 

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
    PITCHTOCLOSE Forum Participant Posts: 658
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    edited June 2016 #95

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

    Write your comments here...no twin axle vans, no motor homes

  • dreamer1
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    edited June 2016 #96

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

    Write your comments here...Are you serious this is a question which relates to the potential damage to childrens health and I feel your reply is rediculous. I dont believe that the health of their children will be affected by any of  your examples. I am a none smoker and find the disusting habbit offensive, especially when it affects me or my family. I find that most smokers dont give a damn if there passaive smoke drifts towards other people. If it would have been drifting into my caravan i would have made them very aware. I cant see there being a ban on smoking but hopefully the smokers will be a little more thoughtful.

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #97

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

    Write your comments here...Are you serious this is a question which relates to the potential damage to childrens health and I feel your reply is rediculous. I dont believe that the health of their children will be affected by any of  your examples. I am
    a none smoker and find the disusting habbit offensive, especially when it affects me or my family. I find that most smokers dont give a damn if there passaive smoke drifts towards other people. If it would have been drifting into my caravan i would have made
    them very aware. I cant see there being a ban on smoking but hopefully the smokers will be a little more thoughtful.

    Oh dear, humor is lost on some , back to my kennel Undecided

  • Spriddler
    Spriddler Forum Participant Posts: 646
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    edited June 2016 #98

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

    Write your comments here...Are you serious this is a question which relates to the potential damage to childrens health and I feel your reply is rediculous. I dont believe that the health of their children will be affected by any of  your examples. I am
    a none smoker and find the disusting habbit offensive, especially when it affects me or my family. I find that most smokers dont give a damn if there passaive smoke drifts towards other people. If it would have been drifting into my caravan i would have made
    them very aware. I cant see there being a ban on smoking but hopefully the smokers will be a little more thoughtful.

    As a vegetarian I find the fatty smell and smoke from neighbours' BBQs disgusting too.

    No meat BBQs I say.

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #99

    I know most none smokers struggle with the following statement BUT believe it or not many of us smoke because we enjoy it. I smoke cigars and have no desire to stop. I have stopped in the past for seven years or so, I even had a similar period of abstinence
    from alcohol. Point is do not think that every smoker smokes because he cant stop nut wihes he could.

    I too enjoyed smoking. I would take it up again tomorrow if it was cheap and I knew that it wouldn't kill me.

    But it isn't and it will. 

    Also, it kills other people and they find it disgusting.

    So ban it from anywhere that anyone else will have to suffer it.

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2016 #100

    Jus a thought for the Op. Buy a small fan and blow the smoke back where it came from. If the smokers object then you can explain why you are doing it. Just a thought.

  • Pippah45
    Pippah45 Forum Participant Posts: 2,452
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    edited June 2016 #101

    As an asthmatic - the more places smoke is banned the better for my health - Although I have noticed that the ban has made me even more sensitive to smoke than before.  I urge smokers to understand that their (filthy) habit really DOES have an impact on
    people who don't smoke. 

  • thomasnbec
    thomasnbec Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited June 2016 #102

    just have a word!! they would more than likely be mortified.

    no point just sitting there steaming. if you dont ask you dont get

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #103

     ....

    I didn't say it was easy, but it can be done if there is a will to do so.

    I take it you have first hand experience

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #104

     .... but is easily achievable.

     

    It's not easy

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #105

     ....

    I didn't say it was easy, but it can be done if there is a will to do so.

    I take it you have first hand experience

    Yes......I stopped when they reached 50p a packet.....far too expensive for me at the time.

    Which is another good reason to tax them so they cost £20/packet.

  • spk
    spk Forum Participant Posts: 406
    edited June 2016 #106

    matters not to me how much tax goes on them, I enjoy a cigar in fact be back in a mo just off to garden for a hamlet moment. At least I am still allowed to smoke on my own property

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2016 #107

    Called in at a coffee shop today. Wanted to sit outside in the beautiful sunshine. Too many smokers. Couldn't sit inside because of the air conditioning. Felt like Ice Station Zebra. Apologised to counter staff for wasting their time but explaineed that
    non smokers who didn't like smoke couldn't sit outside so sooner a ban put on smoking in these establishments inside AND out then the better.

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #108

    Exactly. It's still a public space if people are gathered there.

  • PR1
    PR1 Forum Participant Posts: 96
    edited June 2016 #109

    Just stocked up here in France!  We will not trouble you with our smoke as we rarely use CC sites now!  I will just let the Land Rover warm up and you can have those fumes instead!

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #110

    The thing that helped me to stop smoking was......I took a look around at friends, colleagues, relatives etc who didn't smoke, and it struck me that they were actually no worse off in any way for not smoking. In fact, financially they were better off.

    So I realised that, really, there was no advantage to smoking and there were lots of advantages to not smoking.

    People who smoke are just slaves to a habit. And the sad thing is that it will almost certainly shorten your life for absolutely no advantage.....and it makes you very unpopular with the majority of people.

    There really is no up-side to smoking.

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  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited June 2016 #112

    There really is no up-side to smoking

    Apart from all those fag breaks non smokers dont get .........

    I am a non smoker but I always go out and stand with my work colleague when she goes out just because otherwise you never get out of the building for 10 hours solid!

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #113

    Called in at a coffee shop today. Wanted to sit outside in the beautiful sunshine. Too many smokers. Couldn't sit inside because of the air conditioning. Felt like Ice Station Zebra. Apologised to counter staff for wasting their time but explaineed that
    non smokers who didn't like smoke couldn't sit outside so sooner a ban put on smoking in these establishments inside AND out then the better.

    That's virtually the same argument that a D word disliking pub goer used years ago when we were sat outside a pub in their outside eating area. The D word disliker wanted to sit outside but didn't want to be near Molly the Mutt ...... bu66er off & sit inside
    where we're not allowed was what I wanted to say

    Having one's cake & eating it springs to mind.

  • Spriddler
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    edited June 2016 #114

    There really is no up-side to smoking

    Apart from all those fag breaks non smokers dont get .........

    I am a non smoker but I always go out and stand with my work colleague when she goes out just because otherwise you never get out of the building for 10 hours solid!

    I found that it was the smokers (at all levels of responsibility) in my business who knew what was going on and discussed and resolved issues over an informal drag in the loading bay. They didn't need to attend management meetings!

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #115

    ....

    Apart from all those fag breaks non smokers dont get .........

    Sealed Does your smoking colleague get done what is required of her/him?

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #116

    ....

    Apart from all those fag breaks non smokers dont get .........

    Sealed Does your smoking colleague get done what is required of her/him?

    But surely they would get more done if they didn't keep 'disappearing' throughout the day.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #117

    ....

    Apart from all those fag breaks non smokers dont get .........

    Sealed Does your smoking colleague get done what is required of her/him?

    But surely they would get more done if they didn't keep 'disappearing' throughout the day.

    You can't do any more than all of the day's work

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #118

    It's called 'going the extra mile'.......or maybe just doing the job more thoroughly.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2016 #119

    I agree with the inclusiveness of smokers. I had smokers(most of em) in my felling team(Tree felling) we would chew the fat, relax, smoke ciggys, but discuss the job at hand. If I insisted they didn't smoke I'd not have gotten half the input & discussion
    I got. I may not be a smoker but I was a listener & a respectful boss who got the most out of employees/smokers.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited June 2016 #120

    It's called 'going the extra mile'.......or maybe just doing the job more thoroughly.

    Maybe where I used to work ... but not here.

  • IanH
    IanH Forum Participant Posts: 4,708
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    edited June 2016 #121

    I agree with the inclusiveness of smokers. I had smokers(most of em) in my felling team(Tree felling) we would chew the fat, relax, smoke ciggys, but discuss the job at hand. If I insisted they didn't smoke I'd not have gotten half the input & discussion I got. I may not be a smoker but I was a listener & a respectful boss who got the most out of employees/smokers.

    ......or maybe they were just taking tbe mick. And you fell for it.......

    Just think how many more trees they could have felled while they were all smoking ciggies.