Smoking on sites

EmHC
EmHC Forum Participant Posts: 4
edited June 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I was wondering if anyone else thought it might be a good idea to have smoking and non smoking areas on sites. As a family of non-smokers with a young child we recently experienced quite a lot of second hand cigarette smoke from a neighbouring pitch. It
was particularly unpleasant on hot evenings when we needed to have our windows open as our neighbours and their guests sat outside (quite near to our windows) enjoying their cigarettes.

I know smokers have faced lots of restrictions recently and that many feel unfairly treated, but I would very much like to be able to have fresh air coming in through the windows and not have my three year old passively smoking. Just wondered if anyone else
had had similar experiences and felt the same way.

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  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #2

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2016 #3

    It may well be unpleasant but I can't see it happening. Where would you draw the line. There are often other things that annoy folk such as BBQ's, Music, TV's, Dogs, Children, groups in awnings, I afraid the list is a long one. I do sympathise by the way we had a German couple on the next pitch to us, they were within a few feet of our windows. They were both smokers and pretty much chain smoking, not very pleasant at all.

    Edit. Beat me to it Husky

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2016 #4

    We would have moved pitch to get away from it, if we could. We like sites with big pitches and good spacing, hence CLs mainly in Summer. 

    Not nice to have to put up with, pot luck on your neighbours on a lot of sites. You have my sympathies.

  • Olliedays
    Olliedays Forum Participant Posts: 29
    edited June 2016 #5

    What was their response when you spoke to them about their smoking affecting your enjoyment? I polite word is always the first step to satisfactory resolution.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #7

    I can understand your thoughts, Em, but I fear it's a non-starter. Segregation has been discussed before - see Husky's post - but we are an inclusive club and don't discriminate or segregate. 

    Think, too, of the logistics of operating such a scheme. It would be an administrative nightmare and we couldn't expect wardens to police it.

    Much better, as Ollie said, to have a polite word with the smokers. They probably had no idea the smoke was bothering you.

  • spk
    spk Forum Participant Posts: 406
    edited June 2016 #8

    is this for real ?

    as has been said there are many things in life that are an annoyance to some. The second hand smoke health thing I don't see as an argument or issue as walking the child down the road will place the child in close proximity yo car emmisions, the list is
    endless.

    for the record I smoke cigars

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #9

    If people want to smoke ,its their choice,and the wind is also fickleWink,but what is annoying is going onto a pitch to find it smothered in fag endsYell

     

    I am waiting for the usual comment about dogs Undecided

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  • DSB
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    edited June 2016 #12

    Hi folks.  As this discussion is really to do with sites, I will move it to the UK Sites section in just a moment.

    David

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #13

    If people want to smoke,its their choice,but what is annoying is going onto a pitch to find it smothered in fag endsYell

     

    I am waiting for the usual comment about dogs Undecided

    ...are dogs equally untidy with their cigarette butts?Wink

    Is that why they are called "dog ends"?Wink

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #14

    Hi folks.  As this discussion is really to do with sites, I will move it to the UK Sites section in just a moment.

    David

    Worried...Wink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2016 #15

    What would a quiet word entail?-'could you stop smoking whilst next to me, could you only smoke in the middle of a field, could you only smoke when the wind takes the smoke away from me?'(I too am a none smoker) but as long as I'm not in a closed room 2nd
    hand smoke has no concerns for me. I fear your entreaties to a smoker may not be met with the best of repliesSad

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  • huskydog
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    edited June 2016 #17

    I'm not too bothered what the person on the next pitch gets up to ,as we are only there for a short span of time and i don't know how annoying i am to them, so it's all one big compromiseCool

  • ABM
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    edited June 2016 #18

    But then members will want other areas for

    No dogs

    No flag poles

    No fairy lights

    No BBQ's

    No children

    where will it end???????????

     

    No  Caravans  ?

    No  Motorhomes   ?

    No  Camping  ?

    I  suppose  you  could  go  &  sit  in  the  Ameneties  Block  tho'  the  smell  of  Washing  up  liquid  can  be  a  tad  rank  at  times  ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,,

    Brian ( ex  --  60  a  day  man  who  cannot  stand  the  stink  of  'em  now  --  nothing  and  I  mean  NOTHING 
    worse  than  a  reformed  whatever  !!  )

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited June 2016 #19

    Nothing worse than a reformed 'sotweed junkie,' am I close Muscles. . . .Am I, am I?LaughingLaughing

  • ABM
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    edited June 2016 #20

    Senior  Service  20's,  bought  in the  200  packs,     the  very  last  of  my  crowd  to  smoke  untipped,  then  ditto  to  smoke  at  all  !

    Still  enjoyed  my  food  tho'  !!

    A B M

  • ABM
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    edited June 2016 #21

    P.S.

    And  I  was  still  playing  League  Table  Tennis  &  20 over  league  cricket  ( both  to  an  appallingly  low  standard  tho'  )  while  they  had  all  subsided  to  the  stresses  of  5s + 3s  dominoes  !! 

    Now,  back  to  the  Thread  before  we  get  'De-pitched '

    B

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited June 2016 #22

    Neither my wife or I smoke, But the law seems adequate to deal with people inhaling second hand smoke. 

    I prefer the live and let live attitude to people who want to smoke out in the wide open spaces of the open air. or in their van.

    We are all on holiday so let everybody enjoy their break in whichever way they choose so long as they don't bother anybody else.

    Cool.

    K  

  • Olliedays
    Olliedays Forum Participant Posts: 29
    edited June 2016 #23

    As someone who doesn't like to stew when someone else is spoiling my enjoyment or not acting responsibly I have had polite words on several occasions. Only a couple of times camping and on both occasions about noise. Both times have resulted in the noise
    being satisfactorily reduced.

    I don't understand why people fester if something is bothering them. I know if I had my radio too loud or was talking too loud at night I would be horrified if it was annoying someone.  So just approach them how you'd like to be approached - then there shouldn't
    be any hostility.

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #24

    Why not just ban smoking in all public areas, including outdoors?......it will help to lengthen the would-be smokers lives, save them money and save the rest of us having to inhale their filth.

    Everyone's a winner! Worried

  • Navigateur
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    edited June 2016 #25

    and save ther rest of us the money of paying for the treatment of their self inflicted injury through the NHS.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #26

    as Sir Humprey would say on that:

    Yes but we've been in to that, it has been shown that if those extra 100,000 people had lived to a ripe old age, it would have cost us even more in pensions and social security than it did in medical treatment. So, financially speaking it's unquestionably
    better that they continue to die at their present rate.

    could well be true?

  • DSB
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    edited June 2016 #27

    Personally I've not really noticed a problem with smoking on sites.  I notice (but not object to) an increase in the number of BBQ's over the same time scale!  Laughing

    David 

  • SELL
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    edited June 2016 #28

    Thought there had to be a minimum of 3m spacing between caravans, would cigarette smoke travel that far into someones van wow

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #30

    That is one thing that some smokers do not realise ,is the smell that hangs around them long after the "dog end " has been discarded (mostly on the ground),My lastest OH used to smoke but decided that it was give up fags or rumpty tumpty with me, she gave up fagsSurprisedWinkCool,

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