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  • moulesy
    moulesy Forum Participant Posts: 9,404 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #182

    I'd always assumed that too - I'm sure I've seen appeals for volunteers in return for a free pitch so it would seem strange if full time wardens were expected to pay.

    BTW, I still can find that post attributed to Corners, K. Could you help out? Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #183

    to clear my good name, taken by K (no apology/retraction yet K I notice) it was Bluemalaga on page 7

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #184

    One apology a year is enough for anyone, Corners!! Wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #185

    One apology a year is enough for anyone, Corners!! Wink

    indeed

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #186

    to clear my good name, taken by K (no apology/retraction yet K I notice) it was Bluemalaga on page 7

    Write your comments here.. Relevant part of Corners post copied. .Quote "  site staff are asked to relax the rule "     Surprised Tongue Out

    Relaxing on-site rules is what this thread is discussing, Cool  I'm sure you will agree. HappyHappyHappy

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  • JVB66
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    edited May 2016 #187

    There is no "relaxing" of on site rules according to my conversations with on site staff ,only arrival /departure times,and the site staff do not pay site fees while working their contracts,but of course they mostly have to supply their accomodation (with
    no tax relief that applys to builders/m/way workers) except on a few all year sites

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2016 #188

    As i think has been mentioned before ,Wardens best parts of their contacts  with less problems are before the day of opening and just after 1200hrs of the site closingWink

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #189

    Ah yes, K, just spotted it. Corners was repeating what I believe Rochelle had forwarded from HO regarding leaving times - "at quieter times, site staff are asked to relax the rule and let visitors stay on site at no extra charge until 4.00 pm".

    So nothing to do with relaxing rules in general, just a clarification of the infamous rule 15.

    Not like you to quote things so blatantly out of context, K! Wink

  • Bluemalaga
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    edited May 2016 #190

    I'd always assumed that too - I'm sure I've seen appeals for volunteers in return for a free pitch so it would seem strange if full time wardens were expected to pay.

    BTW, I still can find that post attributed to Corners, K. Could you help out? Wink

    Write your comments here...twas mine I believe

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #191

    I'd always assumed that too - I'm sure I've seen appeals for volunteers in return for a free pitch so it would seem strange if full time wardens were expected to pay.

    BTW, I still can find that post attributed to Corners, K. Could you help out? Wink

    Write your comments here...twas mine I believe

    No, I think it was ust K being mischievous, BM - the little tinker!
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  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #192

    I'd always assumed that too - I'm sure I've seen appeals for volunteers in return for a free pitch so it would seem strange if full time wardens were expected to pay.

    BTW, I still can find that post attributed to Corners, K. Could you help out? Wink

    Write your comments here...twas mine I believe

    Write your comments here...No mate, I was referring to the post from Corners about a rule being relaxed - ( see previous page )  I suspect if  head office is telling Wardens to relax one rule that would not be the only one and it gives tremendous credence to those wardens who told yourself what they had been instructed to do by someone from head office.

    There is no smoke without fire. !!!!! Wink

    Cool

     

     

     

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #193

    I'm starting to think you actually believe that, K! Wink

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2016 #194

    Rule 15 is the only rule that can be relaxed  ref arrival/dep times if space permits, is known to staff that i have spoken tooSmile

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #195

    to clear my good name, taken by K (no apology/retraction yet K I notice) it was Bluemalaga on page 7

    Write your comments here.. Relevant part of Corners post copied. .Quote "  site staff are asked to relax the rule "     Surprised Tongue Out

    Relaxing on-site rules is what this thread is discussing, Cool  I'm sure you will agree. HappyHappyHappy

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    I'm quite annoyed about this K, you were passing this quote which was from Rochelle and was in my post as I had pressed the quote button
    as from me. Undecided

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2016 #196

    I'd always assumed that too - I'm sure I've seen appeals for volunteers in return for a free pitch so it would seem strange if full time wardens were expected to pay.

    BTW, I still can find that post attributed to Corners, K. Could you help out? Wink

    Write your comments here...twas mine I believe

    Write your comments here...No mate, I was referring to the post from Corners about a rule being relaxed - ( see previous page )  I suspect if  head office is telling Wardens to relax one rule that would not be the only one and it gives tremendous credence to those wardens who told yourself what they had been instructed to do by someone from head office.

    There is no smoke without fire. !!!!! Wink

    Cool

     

     

     

    once again you are  being disingenous. You cannot start using things which are reposted using the quote button as coming from that poster. That is simply being dishonest and amounts to being a troll. It is a shame that you have to resort to such tactics

  • IanH
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    edited May 2016 #197

    Well, if Corners says that wardens have been told to relax the rules, that confirms it for me. Not good though, is it?

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2016 #198

    If that 'relaxation' of the rules (when circumstances allow) is documented and part of the rules themselves then that is fine in my opinion. Afterall, we all should have read these when joining the club and in effect have signed up to them. 

     

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #199

    Come to think of it, it's not so very long ago that some folk were comparing CC sites with prison camps and moaning about all the rules. So IF there's been any relaxation, maybe it's a sign that the club has listened to member's comments! Happy

  • JollyKernow
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    edited May 2016 #200

    I think that if you spoke to the wardens ,you would find that there is a shorted of trained site staff  ,new wardens on their first site sometimes can't  hack it and leave the network  altogether either because they do not get on with other wardens on site
    or the general public (us) or more likely that the club has changed their terms of employment i.e. more work or lower travel allowances when travelling from home to site ,also don't forget that they have to provide at their cost site accommodation the club
    do not contribute to this  it has to come out of the minimum wage etc

    Write your comments here...

    Evening All,

    Well, this thread is a bit more entertaining than Saturday night telly so I'll come in. I've quoted the above post because it's pretty much all wrong. Yes we provide our own accomodation but that's it. I don't pay a pitch fee and I'm not on the minimum wage.

    Moving on, I'll try and be factual for those that like to pick at words and misquote. It's been mentioned that two wardens in the southwest have spoken about relaxed rules etc and it came direct from the head of sites. I too work in the south west and I'd
    like to clarify a few points. We may  have been asked to use our discretion on occasion to allow an arrival before midday if the site is not busy, and of course to allow a departure of up to four pm if also not busy, nothing more, nothing less. No relaxing
    of any rules or bye laws that some speculators on here claim.

    I'll now sit back and wait for the ianh and kennine show!!

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #201

    Thanks for that JK! Good to hear a definitive answer! Happy

    I think we can safely put this thread to bed now! Wink

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2016 #202

    Thanks for that JK! Good to hear a definitive answer! Happy

    I think we can safely put this thread to bed now! Wink

    Don't think that we will hear the last of it, though, unfortunately.

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2016 #203

    Sounds very sensible advice to me JK, good to hear and just what we all ready knew and have experienced on well managed sites.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited May 2016 #204

    Hey sometimes facts can be a little boring to some on here. How many threads do you see that go on forever that are based on assumption, speculation and rumour?

    I'm off duty now so I can be entertained on here with a nice glass of redWink

  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #205

    Thanks for that JK! Good to hear a definitive answer! Happy

    I think we can safely put this thread to bed now! Wink

    Don't think that we will hear the last of it, though, unfortunately.

    Write your comments here...Correct ---. So can the warden ( only one in the vast ranks of warden staff  so possibly not representative of  the on site staff as a whole) tell us why so many members feel that the on site rules are not being enforced as they used to be,  prompting this thread and others ????. Cool

    K WinkWink

     

  • IanH
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    edited May 2016 #206

    So that's two wardens each with differing views on the situation........one who has left the CC and is free to speak their mind and another who is still employed by the CC and.......errrrr.......isn't.

    Interesting.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #207

    So that's two wardens each with differing views on the situation........one who has left the CC and is free to speak their mind and another who is still employed by the CC and.......errrrr.......isn't.

    Interesting.

    Sorry Ian, but the one who's left (I'm assuming you mean J&J) has said nothing at all on the subject of rules - simply that they've left. Think you're going to have to accept defeat on this one - go on, give in graciously!Wink. Use left and right arrows to navigate.
     

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #208

    Thanks for that JK! Good to hear a definitive answer! Happy

    I think we can safely put this thread to bed now! Wink

    Don't think that we will hear the last of it, though, unfortunately.

    Write your comments here...Correct ---. So can the warden ( only one in the vast ranks of warden staff  so possibly not representative of  the on site staff as a whole) tell us why
    so many members feel that the on site rules are not being enforced as they used to be,  prompting this thread and others ????.
    Cool

    K WinkWink

     

    I don't actually think it's that many is it, K? Just the usual "on forum moaners"!

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    Think you're also going to have to give in graciously on this one - go on, do it before Ian!

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  • Kennine
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    edited May 2016 #209

    So that's two wardens each with differing views on the situation........one who has left the CC and is free to speak their mind and another who is still employed by the CC and.......errrrr.......isn't.

    Interesting.

    Write your comments here... Very interesting indeed sir. Staff members have to toe the company line so its completely understandable.

    k

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2016 #210

    So that's two wardens each with differing views on the situation........one who has left the CC and is free to speak their mind and another who is still employed by the CC and.......errrrr.......isn't.

    Interesting.

    Write your comments here... Very interesting indeed sir.

    k

    Not really - see my post above, K!
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  • IanH
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    edited May 2016 #211

    But Moulesy, J&J said that they left because there weren't enough resources to maintain standards on site.......I (and many others) have witnesssed that fall in standards.......struggling to see where there is some sort of 'defeat' to admit to??