Wardens in hiding
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Micky......can you substatiate that standards of wardening have been maintained?
Micky might not be able to Ian, but I suspect the Club can. They will have to have staff training records, detailing what aspects of training have been completed by staff. They will have to keep certain records for a period of time, just in case of litigation.
But staff cannot be everywhere on site, at all times. Visitors and members have responsibilities as well, reasonable behaviour being one aspect. You join, you agree to the rules!Having the right bits of paper in a file somewhere doesn't mean diddly......it's what happens on the ground that counts.
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See the thing is I made no statement of 'fact', no 'claim' of the existance of a directive, just my personal obsevation of no preserved drop in standards from my perspective!
It's a bit like those who totally denied the very existence of that very real and long enjoyed rule 15! They did it for effect!
...+1
+1
+ another one.
+ me as well, I'm in!
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Sorry BM, but I find that unbelievable. If the Wardens have been told to relax rules (and I mean proper rule infringements here, not one persons obsessive trivia!) then as a member of staff with a duty of care, I would want such a directive in writing, for my own protection!
Lets say someone is speeding excessively, and they are not warned. Next time they speed, a child gets hit. Then who is at fault? Not the Wardens if they have been told to ignore such rules, but the Club for allowing staff to ignore their own safety rules! (And of course, the speeding driver.) This Club is obsessed with bits of paper, notices all over the place, surely this relaxation of rules would be put in a memo to all staff? I certainly would if I had to deal with such a scenario. Litigation would demand such evidence.
All seems a load of hearsay to me!
Write your comments here...I would not insult the wardens by calling them liars, and as speeding happens on every site at some time or other, the driver would always be responsible, however if you care to check with your warden on your next trip, I would expect you to be told what i have been told. whether you believe it or not, does not matter, Two wardens on different sites stated the same to me in the last 8 days.
Just obseve at what time vans are allowed on site.
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Micky......can you substatiate that standards of wardening have been maintained?
Micky might not be able to Ian, but I suspect the Club can. They will have to have staff training records, detailing what aspects of training have been completed by staff. They will have to keep certain records for a period of time, just in case of litigation.
But staff cannot be everywhere on site, at all times. Visitors and members have responsibilities as well, reasonable behaviour being one aspect. You join, you agree to the rules!..+1 All wardens and assistants are assest every year
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See the thing is I made no statement of 'fact', no 'claim' of the existance of a directive, just my personal obsevation of no preserved drop in standards from my perspective!
It's a bit like those who totally denied the very existence of that very real and long enjoyed rule 15! They did it for effect!
...+1
+1
+ another one.
+ me as well, I'm in!
+ count me in too!
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See the thing is I made no statement of 'fact', no 'claim' of the existance of a directive, just my personal obsevation of no preserved drop in standards from my perspective!
It's a bit like those who totally denied the very existence of that very real and long enjoyed rule 15! They did it for effect!
...+1
+1
+ another one.
+ me as well, I'm in!
+ count me in too!
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That cancels you all out
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BM, what on earth made you ask the warden for that information in the first place? I like to chat to the wardens if I see them around site, but the last thing it would occur to me to discuss with them is the management of their jobs!
Write your comments here...When booking onto Merrose, i asked the duty warden if i could arrive a little early, but was told thatthey would be cleaning. The following morning, vans were allowed on site from 10.00am. This lead me to ask the warden why I was not permitted but others were. The answer was as i stated earlier. This was backed up by the warden at our next stop, along with further descriptions of relaxations to rules.
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The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Write your comments here...Thats the ones who did not want arrivals on a Sunday till 16.00 hours. Some even did not want any arrivals at all on a Sunday.
Still the forum manager put their plans in the bin.
Decency and consideration for others arriving won the day.
K
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BM, what on earth made you ask the warden for that information in the first place? I like to chat to the wardens if I see them around site, but the last thing it would occur to me to discuss with them is the management of their jobs!
Write your comments here...When booking onto Merrose, i asked the duty warden if i could arrive early.
Ah, so you're one of those who think the rules don't apply to them are you?
And the answer was...?
Careful as you go now, I suspect some folk are not going to like the answer!
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The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Think you mean the "on site moaners" Ian!!
I know exactly what I mean, M........and it ain't that.
(you are obviously excluded though
)you couldn't make it up!! Well, some could!
In fact some make it up all the time as they go along!0 -
BM, what on earth made you ask the warden for that information in the first place? I like to chat to the wardens if I see them around site, but the last thing it would occur to me to discuss with them is the management of their jobs!
Write your comments here...When booking onto Merrose, i asked the duty warden if i could arrive early.
Ah, so you're one of those who think the rules don't apply to them are you?
And the answer was...?
Careful as you go now, I suspect some folk are not going to like the answer!
Write your comments here...please read the rest of my edited post. I phoned and asked as the site was less than 25% occupied and has a traffic light controlled approach, which would not have any effect on other members.
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I have come to this post late , this weekend veryquiet site in Sussex, Sunday arrival of transit van towing large double axle Hobby Caravan. Ocupents clean their teeth at the fresh water tap and adult reliefs himself at the waste water drain. Nothing said or done, I make comment to boy with dog not on lead and wife tells me off as the situation is going bad to worse. We have a seasonal pitch and just leave. Shame.
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I have come to this post late , this weekend veryquiet site in Sussex, Sunday arrival of transit van towing large double axle Hobby Caravan. Ocupents clean their teeth at the fresh water tap and adult reliefs himself at the waste water drain. Nothing said
or done, I make comment to boy with dog not on lead and wife tells me off as the situation is going bad to worse. We have a seasonal pitch and just leave. Shame.which site was this?
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The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Think you mean the "on site moaners" Ian!!
I know exactly what I mean, M........and it ain't that.
(you are obviously excluded though
)Write your comments here...no he's not !!!!!
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BM, what on earth made you ask the warden for that information in the first place? I like to chat to the wardens if I see them around site, but the last thing it would occur to me to discuss with them is the management of their jobs!
Write your comments here...When booking onto Merrose, i asked the duty warden if i could arrive early.
Ah, so you're one of those who think the rules don't apply to them are you?
And the answer was...?
Careful as you go now, I suspect some folk are not going to like the answer!
Write your comments here...please read the rest of my edited post. I phoned and asked as the site was less than 25% occupied and has a traffic light controlled approach, which would not have any effect on other members.
So are you saying the "directive" was issued on the day you arrived or the following day? Sorry, I'm getting a little confused by this "directive" issue now!
(Maybe one of the wardens who post on CT could come on and clarify?)
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I have come to this post late , this weekend veryquiet site in Sussex, Sunday arrival of transit van towing large double axle Hobby Caravan. Ocupents clean their teeth at the fresh water tap and adult reliefs himself at the waste water drain. Nothing said
or done, I make comment to boy with dog not on lead and wife tells me off as the situation is going bad to worse. We have a seasonal pitch and just leave. Shame.which site was this?
Write your comments here...East Sussex site Near Uckfield
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The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Think you mean the "on site moaners" Ian!!
I know exactly what I mean, M........and it ain't that.
(you are obviously excluded though
)Write your comments here...no he's not !!!!!
Oh yes I am!
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The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Think you mean the "on site moaners" Ian!!
I know exactly what I mean, M........and it ain't that.
(you are obviously excluded though
)Write your comments here...no he's not !!!!!
Oh yes I am!
Write your comments here...not by me, the famous 5 are all treated the same. it would be grossly unfair to favour one over the others.
K
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BM, what on earth made you ask the warden for that information in the first place? I like to chat to the wardens if I see them around site, but the last thing it would occur to me to discuss with them is the management of their jobs!
Write your comments here...When booking onto Merrose, i asked the duty warden if i could arrive early.
Ah, so you're one of those who think the rules don't apply to them are you?
And the answer was...?
Careful as you go now, I suspect some folk are not going to like the answer!
Write your comments here...please read the rest of my edited post. I phoned and asked as the site was less than 25% occupied and has a traffic light controlled approach, which would not have any effect on other members.
So are you saying the "directive" was issued on the day you arrived or the following day? Sorry, I'm getting a little confused by this "directive" issue now!
(Maybe one of the wardens who post on CT could come on and clarify?)
Write your comments here...If folk were a little more willing to read what is posted carefully and be less inclinded to start the usual arguments, the reaL impact could be assessed. If you arrive a little early as i requested when booking, the wardens will
be cleaning. Turn up two hours early and be allowed on site.0 -
The usual suspects are out in force this evening, I see......
Think you mean the "on site moaners" Ian!!
I know exactly what I mean, M........and it ain't that.
(you are obviously excluded though
)Write your comments here...no he's not !!!!!
Oh yes I am!
For 'usual suspects' read those with impeccable and honest debating skills!
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If, as a previous poster claims, wardens are not allowed enough time to do their job properly, Have they contacted head office to express their concerns, Have they demanded more staff for their site. Have they told head office that the job is unmanageable.
We all value having a happy commited warden staff on site, but if they have not raised their problems with their line mamagers, they will never improve their situation.
If their bosses are failing to provide the necessary resource, the answer is in their own hands --- Vote with their feet. It's entirely up to the Wardens, nobody else can improve their situation for them.
Some of us have voted with our feet. (Not staff - still waiting for banner to be removed)
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BM, sorry, I posted a reply before you edited your post. But the point I was trying to get to was this - were those folk allowed on at 10 the following day because the wardens had been instructed to relax the rules ( the directive) or is that normal practice
at Merrose? Would you have been allowed in at 10 the day before if you' d asked?0
