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  • DORMAN12Q
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    If you want to discourage electric use on pitches cheaply just allow stinging nettles to grow near the hook up , that will deter folk from plunging in.

    I prefer to use electric in my caravan rather than gas,

    there is less of a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning via electrical appliances,

    a hook up cable is far easier to plug in than having to lift gas bottles in and out.

    I have had a calor bottle with a leaking valve , but fortunately smelt it the next day and took the bottle for exchange.

    If you don't want to use electricity don't use it but don't tell others they can't.

    I don't go away in my caravan to struggle so if the electric supply is reduced or becomes I WILL use a generator.

    and it will be a diesel. 

  • peedee
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    edited April 2016 #125

    The subject is "Electricity Meters" and are they fair or not, nobody is saying you can or will be restricted in the use of electricity if you use a hook up which is metered. What it amounts to is you have to pay for what you use rather than having carte
    blache to use what you like. Meters are by far a fairer system.

    peedee

  • thebroons
    thebroons Forum Participant Posts: 165
    edited April 2016 #126

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #127

    If you want to discourage electric use on pitches cheaply just allow stinging nettles to grow near the hook up , that will deter folk from plunging in.

    I prefer to use electric in my caravan rather than gas,

    there is less of a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning via electrical appliances,

    a hook up cable is far easier to plug in than having to lift gas bottles in and out.

    I have had a calor bottle with a leaking valve , but fortunately smelt it the next day and took the bottle for exchange.

    If you don't want to use electricity don't use it but don't tell others they can't.

    I don't go away in my caravan to struggle so if the electric supply is reduced or becomes I WILL use a generator.

    and it will be a diesel. 

    agree fully

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #128

    Likewise we manage  most of the time on 6 amp and don't  find it a hardship, it just needs  a little care how many apliences  are in simultaneous  use. Our kettle is 1080 watt (just checked) and we have never waited 15 minutes  for it boil. 

    which UK site is that on?Smile

    I was only a mechanical engineer in earlier  times but even with my limited knowledge of elecricity I think I can say the "Johnny foreigners " electricity is the same as the Uk so my observation is valid even if posted from abroad..

    not too sure that foreign electricity is as good as BritishSmile, but the point is that firstly this is in the UK touring section, secondly club
    sites generally have 16A and we don't have to 'manage' (your own words BTW) or be expected to
    manage on 6amp. Thirdly this is about meters 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #129

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

  • thebroons
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    edited April 2016 #130

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    Well Stratchlyde park has various charges for ehu depending on the time of year. 

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2016 #131

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    Well Stratchlyde park has various charges for ehu depending on the time of year. 

    Write your comments here...

    Where is the information that specifies the various charges for ehu?

    Differing pricing bands have nothing to do with ehu.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #132

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    Well Stratchlyde park has various charges for ehu depending on the time of year. 

    Write your comments here...

    Where is the information that specifies the various charges for ehu?

    Differing pricing bands have nothing to do with ehu.

    fully correct, it is the normal club pricing structure

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #133

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    Well Stratchlyde park has various charges for ehu depending on the time of year. 

    I can't see any mention of a charge for EHU at all on this or any club site, just the normal pitch and per person fee. In fact if it would be a strange EHU charge as it goes down during the colder months?

  • peedee
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    edited April 2016 #134

    If you consider a Club economy pitch (no EHU) is £3p,n, cheaper than one with EHU then you conclude the Club is charging about £3 p.n for electricity.

    peedee

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  • Cornersteady
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    Likewise we manage  most of the time on 6 amp and don't  find it a hardship, it just needw many apliences  are in simultaneous  use. Our kettle is 1080 watt (just checked) and we have never waited 15 minutes  for it boil. 

    which UK site is that on?Smile

    not too sure that foreign electricity is as good as BritishSmile, but the point is that firstly this is in the UK touring section, secondly club sites generally have 16A and we don't have to 'manage' (your own words BTW) or be expected to manage on 6amp. Thirdly this is about meters 

    I think as a member of this "Club" probably at least as long as you  and quite likey  longer, I am just as  entitled  to have a view on the feasbility of managing to live a civilized life on a variety of amperage power supplies and I dont appreciate your regular attempts to close down any view but your own. 

    BTW I am currently managing to survive on 10 amps at €3.8 a day.  

    Apologies if it comes across that way David , but I am just posting my own views and answers to your post and others post which I assume I am just as entittled to as you. Which is that club sites have 16A not 10 or 6 and as we are not abroad we do not have to manage (which implies some form of going without) on a reduction

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #137

    If you consider a Club economy pitch (no EHU) is £3p,n, cheaper than one with EHU then you conclude the Club is charging about £3 p.n for electricity.

    peedee

    not quite, firstly there are a few sites (three that I've found so far) that charge the same for an EHU and non EHU pitch.

    Secondly that extra £3 (or whatever it is) is not all for electricity, some of that £3 could be going to the installation/upkeep of the EHU bollard?

  • thebroons
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  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #139

    Copy and paste this and scroll to the bottom.

    http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/tent-camping/tent-camping-sites/strathclyde-country-park-caravan-club-tent-site

    mmm, that's for camping (as in tents) not caravans

  • thebroons
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    edited April 2016 #140

    Copy and paste this and scroll to the bottom.

    http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/tent-camping/tent-camping-sites/strathclyde-country-park-caravan-club-tent-site

    mmm, that's for camping (as in tents) not caravans

    mmm, it's for a pitch on a CC site where electric is sold at differing prices depending on time of year. 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited April 2016 #141

    Anybody who has stayed on a German site and had metered electricity will know that the cost is eye-watering. I guess our electricity costs, metered or not, are quite modest in comparison. Nor that we should be complacent.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #142

    Copy and paste this and scroll to the bottom.

    http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/tent-camping/tent-camping-sites/strathclyde-country-park-caravan-club-tent-site

    mmm, that's for camping (as in tents) not caravans

    mmm, it's for a pitch on a CC site where electric is sold at differing prices depending on time of year. 

    no, good try, but it is not a caravan pitch and all those that post on here are either caravaners or MHers who can't avail themselves of this tariff. Also this discussion is about using electricity or meters for caravans and MHs, so you
    can't really start quoting charges for other things. You are not comparing like with like. IMHO

  • thebroons
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    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    This was your question which I answered and provided a link to the facts.

    Unless the electric supply used by tents is somehow different to the electric supply used by everyone else. 

    It proves that the CC charges differing rates for ehu throught the year.

    How and why this happens when they are supposed to charge the same price per unit they pay is open to conjecture. 

  • IamtheGaitor
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    edited April 2016 #144

    ''I don't go away in my caravan to struggle so if the electric supply is reduced or becomes I WILL use a generator.

    and it will be a diesel.''

    I agree totally with the first part of the sentance  - hairshirt caravanning isnt for us either. 

    The second part is interesting - do the CC have a view on generator use? If they start metering electricity more may well go down this route.  We had a generator on the RV- a 4kw one - but never needed to use it on a site as we always go for hook up sites.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2016 #145

    ISTM that £3 for 16amp and €3.8 for 10amp is not a million miles apart.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2016 #146

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    This was your question which I answered and provided a link to the facts.

    Unless the electric supply used by tents is somehow different to the electric supply used by everyone else. 

    It proves that the CC charges differing rates for ehu throught the year.

    How and why this happens when they are supposed to charge the same price per unit they pay is open to conjecture. 

    I think you are very mistaken and your proof is flawed on a few levels. The prices shown for a EHU tent pitch is the normal pricing supply and demand structure as applies to caravans. There is an extra charge for an EHU (just like caravans) but this cannot be for the electricity as it goes up in peak times. A EHU in January (when it is coldest) only costs £1, in peak the charge £5. 

    Secondly I rrefer you to your orginal post:

    We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    then

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    By using the word better you have made a link to the club charging £3+ for usage.

    Thridly I think you are being disingenuous by comparing caravan pitches to tent pitches

    Smile have a nice day now

     

  • thebroons
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    edited April 2016 #147

    We used a couple of small private sites a couple of years back and both had meters. We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    which club site charges £3? 

    This was your question which I answered and provided a link to the facts.

    Unless the electric supply used by tents is somehow different to the electric supply used by everyone else. 

    It proves that the CC charges differing rates for ehu throught the year.

    How and why this happens when they are supposed to charge the same price per unit they pay is open to conjecture. 

    I think you are very mistaken and your proof is flawed on a few levels. The prices shown for a EHU tent pitch is the normal pricing supply and demand structure as applies to caravans. There is an extra charge for an EHU (just like caravans) but this cannot
    be for the electricity as it goes up in peak times. A EHU in January (when it is coldest) only costs £1, in peak the charge £5. 

    Secondly I rrefer you to your orginal post:

    We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    then

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    By using the word better you have made a link to the club charging £3+ for usage.

    Thridly I think you are being disingenuous by comparing caravan pitches to tent pitches

    Smile have a nice day now

     

    Even when the facts are there in print you have trouble accepting the truth. 

     

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2016 #148

     

    which club site charges £3? 

    This was your question which I answered and provided a link to the facts.

    Unless the electric supply used by tents is somehow different to the electric supply used by everyone else. 

    It proves that the CC charges differing rates for ehu throught the year.

    How and why this happens when they are supposed to charge the same price per unit they pay is open to conjecture. 

    I think you are very mistaken and your proof is flawed on a few levels. The prices shown for a EHU tent pitch is the normal pricing supply and demand structure as applies to caravans. There is an extra charge for an EHU (just like caravans) but this cannot
    be for the electricity as it goes up in peak times. A EHU in January (when it is coldest) only costs £1, in peak the charge £5. 

    Secondly I rrefer you to your orginal post:

    We found it was around £1 a day for our usage. 

    then

    Better than the £3+ a night some commercial and club sites charge. 

    By using the word better you have made a link to the club charging £3+ for usage.

    Thridly I think you are being disingenuous by comparing caravan pitches to tent pitches

    Smile have a nice day now

     

    I'm struggling to follow all the above..............

    but I do think the £3 difference in EHU and non EHU pitches on several sites, and the price charged for EHU to tent pitches is a reasonable pointer to what the Club is including in the normal pitch fee to cover electricity.

    So if it was  metered, there could be a choice of whether to have EHU, and you would pay for what you use, much fairer all round.

    Nobody would need to restrict themselves (other than to the 16amps), just be prepared to dig a bit deeper in their pocket.

  • eurortraveller
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    It's more complicated than a straight £3 differential charge for  electricity.

    At Exeter racecourse it's £18.80 in summer for two people on a pitch with electricity but only £10.10 for a non electric pitch. A whopping £8.70 difference. 

  • Cornersteady
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    So if it was  metered, there could be a choice of whether to have EHU, and you would pay for what you use, much fairer all round.

    Nobody would need to restrict themselves (other than to the 16amps), just be prepared to dig a bit deeper in their pocket

    Agree with all of this, but as already stated by the club itself it is impractical to install meters on club sites.

  • peedee
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    edited April 2016 #151

    Its no more impractical than providing service pitches.

    peedee