Electricity meters
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On a site in Holland we were told that as the british continually trip the 6 amp electrics there would be a charge to reset. We changed bollards 3 times one night till we sorted it out. 16 amps for me or non at all thanks.
people dont 'need' 16a to enjoy time in a caravan, even without resorting to changing to gas for cooking or heating....
if the supply were considerably less....10a, or even 6a....it just needs a realisation that by having multiple devices running at the same time 'might' trip the supply.
even a 6a supply will keep batteries charged (allowing lighting and water/heating pumps to run unaffected) and allow for low wattage kettles etc to be used...
despite some views to the contrary, sites are not hotels, nor houses, and cant provide the seemingly limitless demand for simultaneous running of power hungry appliances...
witness the difficulty the club has in attempting to provide a (remotely) decent wifi system to its sites....again, these are not hotels/houses in urban areas.
to expect a supply greater than 16a (as some do) is expecting too much imho....and is not needed...
sorry who is asking for a greater than 16A supply? I didn't, I said that there should not a reduction and you wouldn't expect a hotel to reduce it's ampage.
Why do you want us to use less appliances? why can't you let people just enjoy their holiday (and remember it is that) their own way. You want to use 6A then go right ahead, you are a prime example of what a privious poster said:
Seems a lot of peole want everyone to to be like them and not accept we are all different and have different useage patterns of water, electric, sewerage etc. but want to ram their own agendas down everyones throat
and to make an anlogy between wifi and electricity systems is just amazing0 -
...the 'greater than 16a' requests were noted in the clubs response to peedees request and links....
you dont thinks there a similarity in the provision of piped in 'electricker' to a site....?
so all sites, however remote, should be able to provide infrastructure as though you were at home?
good deflection there BB - away from getting everyone to camp your way, you're the one suggesting using fewer applainces.
I never said that sites should provide the same as at home, please find where I did, just (I'll repeat it again) no reduction from 16A is needed.
The supply of electricity to sites, no matter how remote is well established and there are usually no problems reported are there as with wifi. I assume you know who electriciry and wifi comes into a site? This is no new technology that will tax the current (haha) cables carrying electricity as has happened with phone lines carrying internet (data) and then onto wifi.
Once again you use your gas and 6A, stop trying to get others to camp your way. let others enjoy their holiday using the full 16A when required.
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to expect a supply greater than 16a (as some do) is expecting too much imho....and is not needed...
sorry who is asking for a greater than 16A supply?
Malcolm, IIRC.
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to expect a supply greater than 16a (as some do) is expecting too much imho....and is not needed...
sorry who is asking for a greater than 16A supply?
Malcolm, IIRC.
yes, that's true
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6 amps is not enough for todays users but with the advent of solar panels it may be the continual increase will be halted. Given our truma heater can draw 9 amps even 10 amp supplies look mean. We have lived on 6 amps in France without tripping the fuse
but you need to take care and it is time they at least moved to at leasr 10.We can live with whatever supply we get as long as we know what we are getting. There is really no excuse for tripping a fuse, you just need to take care and use gass more.
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Well for whats it's worth, i'm now throwing my two peneth in. I get really cheesed of when we arrive on a site that has a standard 3 or 4 pounds type of charge for electricity only to find out it's 6 amp or 10 amp. It's only my opinion but i feel good ole
farmer Giles is laughing his socks off at us for helping along with his very comfortable lifestyle in his extended farmhouse as he see's our electric trip for the 4th time. As for me, i get angry at how tight fisted he is. I stayed in Weymouth a month or so
ago, it was pretty cold at night so we had the heating on,,,i woke up at 3 am, freezing cold and foundthe damned thing had tripped, we only had the heating on. 6amp should be banned as well as tight fisted site owners.0 -
6 or 10 a may be fine when in France in the summer especially if using site facilities as all you are really using is the fridge. However here in the UK you really need 16 same as home to use the heating kettle etc. and the problem us not getting the stuff
to site it's the actual infrastructure on site thats the problem.0 -
6 or 10 a may be fine when in France in the summer especially if using site facilities as all you are really using is the fridge. However here in the UK you really need 16 same as home to use the heating kettle etc. and the problem us not getting the stuff
to site it's the actual infrastructure on site thats the problem.not necessarily, surely....?
with a travel kettle (750w) or even using it on the gas hob, there is plenty of scope for running the heating on ehu.
even this could be minimised by heating with gas.
...but the fridge (and charger) could be run on 6a continuously with enough to spare to boil a travel kettle or run the heating on 900w....i dont regard this as any hardship, in fact no real difference....
some get more than the cost of their gas back by plumping for non ehu sites at cheap as chips prices....
if you replace the words could for should, BB's post will be more in tune with his wishes
Yes I know you're only pointing out what could be done, but you mention/post on this
could so often
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There are people who leave their central heating at home set at 22 deg. C. and when they pop out to the car to get something and its 2 deg. below freezing they leave the front door wide open for 5 minutes. Probably they would say "its my gas, my electricity, my bill; get a life". Well OK, but when it comes to power consumption on site its everybody's bill which everybody shares.
With 10 amps you can set your Alde/Truma on "2" and be as hot as you like as long as you switch it off when using a 1kW kettle etc.
In the summer a 6 amp supply is more than adequate with reduced wattage appliances and heating/water on 1kW.
This is no great hardship compared with other compromises with caravan/motorhome like reduced shower pressure compared with home etc. The trouble with 16 amps is that some people want even more and thats mainly because they are more profligate than they need to be because its "free".
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do not know about metering, but simply on or off choice, some of us can manage without and do not need hook ups.funny the othere club you do get choice somthing this club deny its members.
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6 or 10 a may be fine when in France in the summer especially if using site facilities as all you are really using is the fridge. However here in the UK you really need 16 same as home to use the heating kettle etc. and the problem us not getting the stuff
to site it's the actual infrastructure on site thats the problem.not necessarily, surely....?
with a travel kettle (750w) or even using it on the gas hob, there is plenty of scope for running the heating on ehu.
even this could be minimised by heating with gas.
...but the fridge (and charger) could be run on 6a continuously with enough to spare to boil a travel kettle or run the heating on 900w....i dont regard this as any hardship, in fact no real difference....
some get more than the cost of their gas back by plumping for non ehu sites at cheap as chips prices....
if you replace the words could for should, BB's post will be more in tune with his wishes
Yes I know you're only pointing out what could be done, but you mention/post on this
could so oftenWhat are you on about Corners....?
what gives you the right to pontificate over my 'wishes'.
this is an extremely arrogant post and (not for the first time) i think you'll be finding yourself in the referee's notebook.
now you want to edit my posts and make them say what you think i 'should' say.....i think not.
again, the questions were raised about the ease (or not) of surviving on a limited amperage....all i did was to show that the world wouldn't cave in if supplies were limited.
if you want to be a moderator (and change my posts to what they 'should' say) why dont you ask Ro nicely.....
as i obviously think you 'could', i really wish you 'would'.....
ohh, touched a nerve there BB? glad you agree they are your wishes though
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it was only your arrogance that struck me, and i see its still there in this posting.
you really do take the biscuit.
yes please custard creams!
Stay on topic BB
Meters would be too expensive to install.
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6 or 10 a may be fine when in France in the summer especially if using site facilities as all you are really using is the fridge. However here in the UK you really need 16 same as home to use the heating kettle etc. and the problem us not getting the stuff
to site it's the actual infrastructure on site thats the problem.not necessarily, surely....?
with a travel kettle (750w) or even using it on the gas hob, there is plenty of scope for running the heating on ehu.
even this could be minimised by heating with gas.
...but the fridge (and charger) could be run on 6a continuously with enough to spare to boil a travel kettle or run the heating on 900w....i dont regard this as any hardship, in fact no real difference....
some get more than the cost of their gas back by plumping for non ehu sites at cheap as chips prices....
if you replace the words could for should, BB's post will be more in tune with his wishes
Yes I know you're only pointing out what could be done, but you mention/post on this
could so oftenWrite your comments here...hit the nail on the head there
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6 or 10 a may be fine when in France in the summer especially if using site facilities as all you are really using is the fridge. However here in the UK you really need 16 same as home to use the heating kettle etc. and the problem us not getting the stuff
to site it's the actual infrastructure on site thats the problem.not necessarily, surely....?
with a travel kettle (750w) or even using it on the gas hob, there is plenty of scope for running the heating on ehu.
even this could be minimised by heating with gas.
...but the fridge (and charger) could be run on 6a continuously with enough to spare to boil a travel kettle or run the heating on 900w....i dont regard this as any hardship, in fact no real difference....
some get more than the cost of their gas back by plumping for non ehu sites at cheap as chips prices....
Write your comments here...we had a ttravel/low wattage kettle once and got fed up waiting 15 minutes for it to boil so have a normal one now.
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Michael, Im sorry you and Corners are struggling with the English language.....
There is no really need for insults again BB or to use sarcasm (without dying), the point we are making that while you claim to not care you post on what could be done sooo many times, or ridicule them for the way they are using gas.
Let people holiday they way they want.
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Likewise we manage most of the time on 6 amp and don't find it a hardship, it just needs a little care how many apliences are in simultaneous use. Our kettle is 1080 watt (just checked) and we have never waited 15 minutes for it boil.
which UK site is that on?
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it was only your arrogance that struck me, and i see its still there in this posting.
you really do take the biscuit.
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again yes please, digestives from you I think
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Michael, Im sorry you and Corners are struggling with the English language.....
There is no really need for insults again BB or to use sarcasm (without dying), the point we are making that while you claim to not care you post on what
could be done sooo many times, or ridicule them for the way they are using gas.Let people holiday they way they want.
corners, do what you like.....
why do you think its ok to seek to change the tone of my post, suggesting i post something different, and then go all 'hurt' over nothing when i pull you up for doing it....
if you really dont know the difference between 'could' and 'should' (which your persistence seems to imply) than you are struggling with the English language.
if someone askes for advice and the response is ....this is what could be done.... giving a open option.....why does this irk you so much?
isnt it a non-personal, straight forward help-giving response?
i really dont know why ypu are get so hot and bothered.
likewise
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