Pitch allocation at Rowntree

I disagree with pitch allocation, we are all equal members and the club has always operated a "choose your own pitch"         First come first served is good !!!

This is fair to all, I don't mind if all that is available is when I arrive is one of the smaller pitches.That's just my Donald Duck. I have never been agitated because somebody might have a larger pitch than me. "Live and let live" is a good attitude. We
are all on holiday I would never have my holiday spoiled by envying somebody else's pitch.

K  

Write your comments here...K   as is accepted by most "first come first served"is right,but there are one or two elderly sites on the cc network that there is never going to be pitches that will take some leisure vehicles Rowntree being one, and if an 8mtr
vehicle was "forced " to use them they would obstruct the roadways in some places

The main problem with that statement, JVB is that it's incorrect.

 

..There is it seems only one who agrees with you

That's ruling out an awful lot of caravans on a standard non awning pitch. Our two berth is 6.6m 

How would that impact motorhomes?  

If they are allocating pitches, then they should do it over the whole network, that would be a level playing field we would all know where we stood, I chose a small unit, gives me a lot of space on a ave pitch, if they start putting me on a small pitch, well stuff it I will be off, units are getting to big

In your opinion, mine is 8m and not too big for us thank you

That's ruling out an awful lot of caravans on a standard non awning pitch. Our two berth is 6.6m 

How would that impact motorhomes?  

Our motorhome is 6.6m but with the bikes on the back 7m

Too long for one of the standard non awning pitches. 

there won't be many that can fit on them 

It is interesting that some are prepared to extol the virtues of commercial sites when it comes to pricing policies, but not when it relates to pitch allocation. All the commercial sites we have stayed on have told us where to pitch and normally guided us to it.

Have you not stayed on many commercial sites, Steve? I find it's rare to be allocated a pitch other than on an AS.

Actually, it's not an anomaly to praise one facet of commercial sites but decry another. There's nothing strange in that at all.

greythatch/mbee, that's fine that you don't agree we all have opions. We all have choices to and some people like to own bigger vans (we only have a 6.6m) that's their choice. I'm sure they would love to be able to book a larger pitch at an additional fee
just so they have room to breath, as you say we are all members and pay the same membership fee, so we should all be allowed to have the same level of comfort once on site. Until such time that the club decide to make that possible then the wardens HAVE to
manage their site to accomadate ALL its members that are arriving. Imagine booking a pitch in January for a stay in June, having travelled from the North of Scotland you arrive at 18.00 only to find that the one pitch left is far too small for your outfit,
would you not be shocked,angry,dissapointed, not everyone can arrive at 12.00.  The wardens know what size of unit is due to arrive that's why the club asks for the size of your outfit, I have no problem with the wardens allocating pitches on arrival or removing
from selection those pitches that are required for other members, be it for a disability or larger unit.

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options
including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking
of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive,
provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent years.

I actually complained to the wardens at a site as there were only 2 pitches left when we arrived at a site and one far better placed for our van, it had a cone on it. An hour later a couple arrived and on they went. When I asked why it was reserved I was
told they were Club Wardens that made my blood boil, do wardens (not from that site )receive preferential treatment over members, they did last year at Durham site.

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive, provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

 

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options
including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the
CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive,
provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent
years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

Absolutely true! You can't and shouldn't discriminate someone who has requested a pitch near to the toilet block just because they haven't got a wheelchair or mobility scooter parked outside their van. A person's disability is nobody's business but their
own and as usual, there are folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts. There are many ailments that could require a person be pitched near to the loos and it's nobody's right to question why these pitches
have been requested, that includes the wardens.

 

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options
including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the
CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive,
provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent
years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

Absolutely true! You can't and shouldn't discriminate someone who has requested a pitch near to the toilet block just because they haven't got a wheelchair or mobility scooter parked outside their van. A person's disability is nobody's business but their
own and as usual, there are folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts. There are many ailments that could require a person be pitched near to the loos and it's nobody's right to question why these pitches
have been requested, that includes the wardens.

As a Medical Practitioner of almost 25 years and a Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, I truly understand that disabilities are not always visually evident. May I suggest you go back and read my post
again please? Just like, “folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts”
there are also people who do not read the post correctly and make very sweeping statements. I therefore refer you back to my post and ask you read it again.

The issues to which I referred were very clearly not related to access to facilities as the reserved pitches in question were far too far away from the facilities for that to be the case. I also confirmed in my post that the
specific example I gave was specifically and solely allocated purely on the basis that the occupant of said pitch was a Warden of the Caravan Club.

I would reiterate, if a person has a genuine need to have a specific pitch reserved to allow them access to the facilities be it mental or physical I fully support that and encourage it.

"I actually complained to the wardens at a site as there were only 2 pitches left when we arrived at a site and one far better placed for our van, it had a cone on it. An hour later a couple arrived and on they went. When I asked why it was reserved I was told they were Club Wardens that made my blood boil, do wardens (not from that site )receive preferential treatment over members, they did last year at Durham site."

Usually that indicates the imminent arrival of relief wardens who are there to do a job.

Made your blood boil? Goodness, life's too short for that, Stewart.

"I actually complained to the wardens at a site as there were only 2 pitches left when we arrived at a site and one far better placed for our van, it had a cone on it. An hour later a couple arrived and on they went. When I
asked why it was reserved I was told they were Club Wardens that made my blood boil, do wardens (not from that site )receive preferential treatment over members, they did last year at Durham site."

Usually that indicates the imminent arrival of relief wardens who are there to do a job.

Made your blood boil? Goodness, life's too short for that, Stewart.

Nope, that was not the case. They were on holiday just as we were. The reason for the blood boiling was it took me a considerable amount of time to get onto the last pitch due to a tree and a tight corner, it really was a very tight pitch, mainly due to
the tree, corner and units across the road. We have all been on them! The reserved pitch was a straight drive onto. I was in a 9m Motorhome and they were in a small caravan. But that's opening another can of worms associated with unit sizes and pitch allocation.
I don't want to go there.

The bottom line in my mind was we should all be equal and same rules apply to all. But as others indicate that is only my opinion and others have differing opinions. It would be a boring world if we thought the same.

It all boils down to luck of the draw, Stewart. Did you alert the wardens to the size your unit in advance? There again, that would be asking for special treatment and, as you say, we should all be equal. 

 

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive, provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

Absolutely true! You can't and shouldn't discriminate someone who has requested a pitch near to the toilet block just because they haven't got a wheelchair or mobility scooter parked outside their van. A person's disability is nobody's business but their own and as usual, there are folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts. There are many ailments that could require a person be pitched near to the loos and it's nobody's right to question why these pitches have been requested, that includes the wardens.

As a Medical Practitioner of almost 25 years and a Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, I truly understand that disabilities are not always visually evident. May I suggest you go back and read my post again please? Just like, “folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts” there are also people who do not read the post correctly and make very sweeping statements. I therefore refer you back to my post and ask you read it again.

The issues to which I referred were very clearly not related to access to facilities as the reserved pitches in question were far too far away from the facilities for that to be the case. I also confirmed in my post that the specific example I gave was specifically and solely allocated purely on the basis that the occupant of said pitch was a Warden of the Caravan Club.

I would reiterate, if a person has a genuine need to have a specific pitch reserved to allow them access to the facilities be it mental or physical I fully support that and encourage it.

I was merely agreeing with the post above but thanks for giving over your CV. Very impressive.

Relating to your case, if being left with a substandard (in your opinion) pitch after a warden has saved one of the two remaining for a colleague, makes your' blood boil', I'd hate to go under your knife if you are so easily wound up. But hey your not the only one who likes a rant. Others in the past few days have noted members don't empty their wastemasters and motorhomers leave their cables plugged in. Don't know about Club Together, it's more like Rant Together on here. Splashing out on an expensive leisure vehicle just to go and park on a site and then sit staring out of the window with a copy of the club rules to hand, wondering whether the last misdemeanor spotted needs to be shared with the wardens or not, hardly makes for an enjoyable holiday I wouldn't have thought. Like many of the letters I read in the Club Magazine, this club has it's fair share of whingeing, judgmental, bitter, nosey parkers doesn't it? So many unimportant issues get discussed in this forum, it's a wonder the Caravan Club doesn't offer a discounted Counselling Service along with vehicle insurance and cheap passage through the M6 Toll. 
Oh bugger! Now i'm ranting too....  

 

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options
including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the
CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive,
provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent
years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

Absolutely true! You can't and shouldn't discriminate someone who has requested a pitch near to the toilet block just because they haven't got a wheelchair or mobility scooter parked outside their van. A person's disability is nobody's business but their
own and as usual, there are folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts. There are many ailments that could require a person be pitched near to the loos and it's nobody's right to question why these pitches
have been requested, that includes the wardens.

As a Medical Practitioner of almost 25 years and a Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, I truly understand that disabilities are not always visually evident. May I suggest you go back and read my post
again please? Just like, “folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts”
there are also people who do not read the post correctly and make very sweeping statements. I therefore refer you back to my post and ask you read it again.

The issues to which I referred were very clearly not related to access to facilities as the reserved pitches in question were far too far away from the facilities for that to be the case. I also confirmed in my post that the
specific example I gave was specifically and solely allocated purely on the basis that the occupant of said pitch was a Warden of the Caravan Club.

I would reiterate, if a person has a genuine need to have a specific pitch reserved to allow them access to the facilities be it mental or physical I fully support that and encourage it.

I was merely agreeing with the post above but thanks for giving over your CV. Very impressive.

Relating to your case, if being left with a substandard (in your opinion) pitch after a warden has saved one of the two remaining for a colleague, makes your' blood boil', I'd hate to go under your knife if you are so easily wound up. But hey your not the
only one who likes a rant. Others in the past few days have noted members don't empty their wastemasters and motorhomers leave their cables plugged in. Don't know about Club Together, it's more like Rant Together on here. Splashing out on an expensive leisure
vehicle just to go and park on a site and then sit staring out of the window with a copy of the club rules to hand, wondering whether the last misdemeanor spotted needs to be shared with the wardens or not, hardly makes for an enjoyable holiday I wouldn't
have thought. Like many of the letters I read in the Club Magazine, this club has it's fair share of whingeing, judgmental, bitter, nosey parkers doesn't it? So many unimportant issues get discussed in this forum, it's a wonder the Caravan Club doesn't offer
a discounted Counselling Service along with vehicle insurance and cheap passage through the M6 Toll. 

Oh bugger! Now i'm ranting too....  

Write your comments here...

 

I have always thought this was something the CC should explore, currently you can book a limited number of pitches in the booking system, awning, without awning and serviced. If you look at the C&CC booking system you can select a far greater amount of options
including grass or hardstanding which is the biggest failing for me with the CC system. I am an owner with a larger motorhome and grass is not really the best option, but the
CC system does not allow me to book hardstanding. The C&CC system allows the booking of Jumbo pitches which are large hardstanding serviced pitches. You pay a premium but you get what you want and pay for.

With regard to the current system in the CC I have no issue with smaller units parking on any pitch which was available to them on arrival, even if I have to squeeze onto a smaller pitch, we are all paying the same and its the luck of the draw when you arrive,
provided you are parked safely.

The one thing I do hate is the reserving of pitches for unknown reasons, not near the toilet block and all occupants mobile, and o most occassions very well know to the wardens, that to me is unacceptable and far more prevelant in recent
years.

Not all sites have grass, a few are all grass, booking grass pitches are now clearly categorised at some sites and separately bookable within the system on line. A move for the better. 

With regard to coning why should we need to know what the needs of our fellow members are, not all disabilities/medical needs are outwardly visible, some of us need to be close to the toilets for other medical reasons even though we are mobile. 

Absolutely true! You can't and shouldn't discriminate someone who has requested a pitch near to the toilet block just because they haven't got a wheelchair or mobility scooter parked outside their van. A person's disability is nobody's business but their
own and as usual, there are folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts. There are many ailments that could require a person be pitched near to the loos and it's nobody's right to question why these pitches
have been requested, that includes the wardens.

As a Medical Practitioner of almost 25 years and a Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, I truly understand that disabilities are not always visually evident. May I suggest you go back and read my post
again please? Just like, “folk on forum's like this who are very quick to judge and comment without truly knowing the facts”
there are also people who do not read the post correctly and make very sweeping statements. I therefore refer you back to my post and ask you read it again.

The issues to which I referred were very clearly not related to access to facilities as the reserved pitches in question were far too far away from the facilities for that to be the case. I also confirmed in my post that the
specific example I gave was specifically and solely allocated purely on the basis that the occupant of said pitch was a Warden of the Caravan Club.

I would reiterate, if a person has a genuine need to have a specific pitch reserved to allow them access to the facilities be it mental or physical I fully support that and encourage it.

I was merely agreeing with the post above but thanks for giving over your CV. Very impressive.

Relating to your case, if being left with a substandard (in your opinion) pitch after a warden has saved one of the two remaining for a colleague, makes your' blood boil', I'd hate to go under your knife if you are so easily wound up. But hey your not the
only one who likes a rant. Others in the past few days have noted members don't empty their wastemasters and motorhomers leave their cables plugged in. Don't know about Club Together, it's more like Rant Together on here. Splashing out on an expensive leisure
vehicle just to go and park on a site and then sit staring out of the window with a copy of the club rules to hand, wondering whether the last misdemeanor spotted needs to be shared with the wardens or not, hardly makes for an enjoyable holiday I wouldn't
have thought. Like many of the letters I read in the Club Magazine, this club has it's fair share of whingeing, judgmental, bitter, nosey parkers doesn't it? So many unimportant issues get discussed in this forum, it's a wonder the Caravan Club doesn't offer
a discounted Counselling Service along with vehicle insurance and cheap passage through the M6 Toll. 

Oh bugger! Now i'm ranting too....  

 

Before I "say" what I am about to say I want make it clear I do not wish to enter into some sort of petty drawn out tit for tatt war of postings, that is not why I participate on forums (come to think of it, why do I) However, for the quality of continued
discussion and the promotion of accuracy and fairness I once again must request you read the post in question and not make assumptions or opinion which form part of a reply. I have at no point in any of my posts intimated that any pitch was "substandard" it
was merely more difficult to access. You are painting a picture which is purely unfactual.

Anyway, I shall bow out of this discussion and it has turned a corner which has very little to do with our shared past time and return to enjoying my time in my Motorhome. The stellplatz in Trier is delightful with everyone getting along well, people from
all over Europe, most of us unaware of any official rules, but all of us observing the simple rules I always abide by, treat everyone as you would wish to be treated and when motorhoming leave the nignt before stop over as you found it and if you can improve
it, even better.