Pitch allocation at Rowntree

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  • IanHNW
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    edited April 2016 #62

    Were the smaller motorhomes being given the pitches backing on to Terry Avenue (1 to 9) since these are about the smallest pitches.  

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #63

    I like being able to pick my own pitch and that is why I remain in the club.We try to get to sites between 12 and 1 to make sure we get a suitable pitch for the van , but what niggled me at York was the fact so many pitches had cones on for twin axles and
    motorhomes , leaving us two pitches to pick from one which was not at all suitable, as we would have had the nose of the van on the road and the other was not that good either but at least we got on, this was about 12-30 ,
    then seeing smaller motorhomes getting the reserved pitches does not make sense.

    We all pay the same membership fee and we should all have the same choice of pitches , first come first served with the exception of disabled requirements.

     

    I agree, that doesn't make any sense at all......officialdom for the sake of it.

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #64

    No Rochelle, I'm afraid it doesn't answer the question at all.

    You are confusing awnings (width and spacing requirements) with length of a unit. The introduction of more awning pitches has nothing to do with the length of a caravan.

    Also, the new layout was in place for most of last year and reserving of pitches was not apparantly required all of last year. It appears to be a new thing.

     

    Ian  we have also used this site numerous times ,and I think your idea of "All"pitches will take TA vans is a bit "clouded" as the last time we were there ,without obstructing the exit road a TA would not have fitted on the pitch we used, and opposite but a bit further down a M/v was in at an angle to clear the road  

    Which pitch were you on, JVB?

    Can't really comment without knowing that.

    But still don't see why introducing more awning pitches would affect whether a caravan was too long or not.

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2016 #65
    Part of this redevelopment involved the removal and relocation of the dividing hedges to increase the number of awning pitches from 10 to 47,

    That was some amount of hedges!   And now they do not need to be trimmed so an increase in efficiecy for wardens.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #66

    I can remember years ago before Fire and elf & safety regs an warden told us that he never worried about pitch sizes to size of units he said "If they like the pitch it does not matter what size they are they will get on it somehow, you just have to look, shake your head, and walk away"Cool

  • JayEss
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    edited April 2016 #67

    Ian when we were there last year there were pitches coned off.  We had the choice of two pitches when we got there, No 1 which our two berth van was too long for and No 9 which we ended up on.  No 8 was coned off for a motorhome which overhang the pitch
    even though it was backed up to the hedge.  I don't think it's a site to use if you have a big unit.

    A campervan ended up on pitch 1.  It was about right for it

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #68

    No Rochelle, I'm afraid it doesn't answer the question at all.

    You are confusing awnings (width and spacing requirements) with length of a unit. The introduction of more awning pitches has nothing to do with the length of a caravan.

    Also, the new layout was in place for most of last year and reserving of pitches was not apparantly required all of last year. It appears to be a new thing.

     

    Ian  we have also used this site numerous times ,and I think your idea of "All"pitches will take TA vans is a bit "clouded" as the last time we were there ,without obstructing the exit road a TA would not have fitted on the pitch we used, and opposite but a bit further down a M/v was in at an angle to clear the road  

    Which pitch were you on, JVB?

    Can't really comment without knowing that.

    But still don't see why introducing more awning pitches would affect whether a caravan was too long or not.

    ...Cannot remember pitch numbers but we were backed in on exit road on main part of site behind old building with EHU on its post about a foot from rear of van

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #69

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #70
    Part of this redevelopment involved the removal and relocation of the dividing hedges to increase the number of awning pitches from 10 to 47,

    That was some amount of hedges!   And now they do not need to be trimmed so an increase in efficiecy for wardens.

    They took out and re-planted about three dividing hedges.....a fairly minor change, really.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #71

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    ..The building was not on central row, but the m/v was and that had to go in at an angle,and Jayess found the same,as i said your memory or ideas are a bit clouded Undecided 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2016 #72

    When designing sites, it would increase the available length of the pitch if they were laid out chevron pattern.Pythagoras and all that.  It would also facilitate backing on to the pitch.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #73

    Oh has just reminded me that when there,a "solo" with a m/v with rear door just fitted,and the warden had told her she could pitch cab in, but was frightened to as she would step out into path of vehilcles 

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #74

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    ..The building was not on central row, but the m/v was and that had to go in at an angle,and Jayess found the same,as i said your memory or ideas are a bit clouded
    Undecided 

    Well if you, with your obviously unclouded memory, could remember which pitch you were on, I might be able to comment specifically......just a rough idea from the site plan would do......

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2016 #75

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2016 #76

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #77

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    ..The building was not on central row, but the m/v was and that had to go in at an angle,and Jayess found the same,as i said your memory or ideas are a bit clouded
    Undecided 

    Well if you, with your obviously unclouded memory, could remember which pitch you were on, I might be able to comment specifically......just a rough idea from the site plan would do......

    ..If you do not know as by your replys seems to be the fact,as you do not seem to know what the pitches backing onto the old building are like

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #78

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

    Well, the maximum permitted body length for towing is 7 metres, so most don't exceed about 7.9m overall......and they would fit on any pitch......

  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2016 #79

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #80

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    ..The building was not on central row, but the m/v was and that had to go in at an angle,and Jayess found the same,as i said your memory or ideas are a bit clouded
    Undecided 

    Well if you, with your obviously unclouded memory, could remember which pitch you were on, I might be able to comment specifically......just a rough idea from the site plan would do......

    ..If you do not know as by your replys seems to be the fact,as you do not seem to know what the pitches backing onto the old building are like

    The old building hasn't been there for at least 18 months, so hardly relevant to the current situation.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #81

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

    Well, the maximum permitted body length for towing is 7 metres, so most don't exceed about 7.9m overall......and they would fit on any pitch......

    ...Except at Rowntree ParkUndecided

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #82

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

    Well, the maximum permitted body length for towing is 7 metres, so most don't exceed about 7.9m overall......and they would fit on any pitch......

    ...Except at Rowntree ParkUndecided

    Which pitch on the current site layout wouldn't a twin axle fit on then?

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #83

    And I say again, Rochelle......why would increasing the spacing between pitches, to allow more awning pitches, suddenly make them too short (front to back) for a twin axle caravan?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #84

    If you mean one of the central rows, they all take a twin axle.

    Are all twin-axle 'vans now the same length?

    Well, the maximum permitted body length for towing is 7 metres, so most don't exceed about 7.9m overall......and they would fit on any pitch......

    ...Except at Rowntree ParkUndecided

    Which pitch on the current site layout wouldn't a twin axle fit on then?

    ..Some of the ones that are probably not being "saved" for them

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #85

    And I say again, Rochelle......why would increasing the spacing between pitches, to allow more awning pitches, suddenly make them too short (front to back) for a twin axle caravan?

    ..Probably because the back to back measurements would foul the fire regulations in the middle row especialy

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #86

    In the middle rows, the caravans back up to the separating hedge.......what possible difference could the length of the caravan make?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #87

    In the middle rows, the caravans back up to the separating hedge.......what possible difference could the length of the caravan make?,





    ...Because they were off set to give clearances can they now take awnings since refurb because thay did no before the only awning pitches were on the rear wall of the site as you of course know thatUndecided

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #88

    Yes I do know that - they introduced some awning pitches into the central rows.....in some cases by removing and re-planting the separating hedges.

    But I say again, what difference does the length of the caravan make to the side to side spacing?

    As it appears that you are just arguing for arguing's sake, and your posts are getting increasingly difficult to read, I'll just end this exchange with you by saying that all the central rows do fit twin axle caravans......as do all pitches on this site.

  • IanH
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    edited April 2016 #89

    And I say again, Rochelle......why would increasing the spacing between pitches, to allow more awning pitches, suddenly make them too short (front to back) for a twin axle caravan?

    Look forward to your explanation, Rochelle......

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2016 #90

    Yes I do know that - they introduced some awning pitches into the central rows.....in some cases by removing and re-planting the separating hedges.

    But I say again, what difference does the length of the caravan make to the side to side spacing?

    As it appears that you are just arguing for arguing's sake, and your posts are getting increasingly difficult to read, I'll just end this exchange with you by saying that all the central rows do fit twin axle caravans......as do all pitches on this site.

    ...You are just doing your usual when you are ,unable to see that you are wrong

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited April 2016 #91

    Having quickly scanned through some of the reponses to the OP, I'm glad that we've found a small site within easy reach of the city centre with none of the problems highlighted on here.Laughing