Grass pitch re-opening

nick2611
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edited March 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We have just stayed for the Easter weekend at Pembrey Park in Carmarthenshire.  The site details stated that grass pitches close on 31st October, but disn't say when they re-open.  I booked, mistakingly thinking the grass pitches would still be closed.  We
ended up on sodden, muddy grass pitching area, where motor homes were getting bogged down requiring assistance to get out.  I wonder if the pitches were only open because of the early Easter, as a money making exercise, or if they would normally be open so
early... Any ideas or opinions?

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  • peedee
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    edited March 2016 #2

    Grass pitches can become wet and difficult at any time of the year. If they were dry and usable before the current spell of rain why not open them for a busy hotiday time. It was just the luck of the draw it turned wet.

    peedee

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #3

    Given that the weekend was predicted wet 5 days before, I would have thought it sensible that those who had booked last were given the option of cancelling, or informed they would be on grass. Either that or just cancel the last booked and only use the hardstanding.
    If the pitches have been damaged at the start of the season they may take a long time to recover, which will be to the detriment of all future visitors.

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #4

    I always check to see if grass pitches are in use, and if they are, I cancel or don't book in the first place.  A process I always go through unless I book an all hardstanding site or if I'm lucky enough to book a full serviced pitch.

    David 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #5

    grass - hate the stuff, no place on a caravan site in the 21st century, its OK between pitches but otherwise noWink

    Unfortunate but luck of the draw, I only book sites where I am sure to get a HS or go on sites where the percentage of HS is high and avoid these sites in high demand weekends.

  • DSB
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    edited March 2016 #6

    grass - hate the stuff, no place on a caravan site in the 21st century, its OK between pitches but otherwise noWink

    Unfortunate but luck of the draw, I only book sites where I am sure to get a HS or go on sites where the percentage of HS is high and avoid these sites in high demand weekends.

    Agree 100%

    David 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #7

    grass - hate the stuff, no place on a caravan site in the 21st century, its OK between pitches but otherwise noWink

    Unfortunate but luck of the draw, I only book sites where I am sure to get a HS or go on sites where the percentage of HS is high and avoid these sites in high demand weekends.

    Agree 100%

    David 

    I don't Innocent

    The CL we were on last week was a reasonable compromise, there two rows of paving stones for the caravan wheels in an other wise all grass field. Awning pegged out on grass ...... Cool

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2016 #8

    Given the amount of rain we haver had this winter, I would imagine it will be some time before grass pitches dry out to a reasonable level.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #9

    It was mid April last year when they started to open the grass pitches at Bladon Chains.

    The year before at Henley, the grass pitches were still closed mid April.

    It all depends on the type of winter we've had and this year it has been a very wet one. A cursory 'walk test' on any grass will tell you that, unless it's exceptionally well drained, it won't be suitable for caravans and heavy motorhomes for a good while yet.

    Time to get rid of grass pitches and accept that we now have a year-round activity but, in many cases, we don't have year-round pitching facilities.....more hardstandings, please.

  • nick2611
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    edited March 2016 #10

    Thanks all... I appreciate it is somewhat luck of the draw with the weather.  But pitches were already wet and soft when we arrived, and the damage caused by cars and motorhomes during the weekend was significant.  Grass pitches should have remained closed
    in my view... but then I am one of the pro hardstanding brigade so am very much biased... I also have a major issue with people arriving before the permitted arrival time snatching all the HS pitches, but lets not go there... ;o)

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #11

    It does seem lax that where a site has awning and non-awning pitches one can book accordingly, but not grass and non-grass.

    Whether a site can get planning permission to create permanent hard surfaces should no affect there being adequate drainage.

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #12

    If you book an awning pitch at Warwick you will probably be on grass, the grass can get quite soggy and pitches can be out of action. Sites vary so much.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2016 #13

     

    I don't Innocent

    The CL we were on last week was a reasonable compromise, there two rows of paving stones for the caravan wheels in an other wise all grass field. Awning pegged out on grass ...... Cool

    Not a suitable compromise for me however. Generally I don't want a grass pitch. Not bothered that the caravan is on grass. I like the hard sanding around the van or at least on what would be the awning side.

  • JD6620
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    edited March 2016 #14

    We booked a service pitch on our chosen site for the weekend.  It was the only way to guarantee a hardstanding.  It's a good job we did as by the time storm Katie had dumped an inch of water on us things were getting a little boggy.  As we were leaving one
    motorhome had become stuck on the grass.  Time to do away with grass and make all pitches hardstanding.

  • Hakinbush
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    edited March 2016 #15

    Say what you like about grass pitch's, in july and august opening the van door in the morning on a sunny day nothing like the smell of grass first thing, always reminds me of the sixties and seventies, but ground sheets a no-no..

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #16

    That's very true Hakinbush......but is it practical to have pitches that are only good for two months of the year?

    Wouldn't it be better to have all hardstandings, but have plenty of grass and planted areas around them?

    More trees between pitches always looks really good.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #17

     

    I don't Innocent

    The CL we were on last week was a reasonable compromise, there two rows of paving stones for the caravan wheels in an other wise all grass field. Awning pegged out on grass ...... Cool

    Not a suitable compromise for me however. Generally I don't want a grass pitch. Not bothered that the caravan is on grass. I like the hard sanding around the van or at least on what would be the awning side.

    Doesn't surprise me from you Easy ...... 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #18

    Agree fully with my learned friend above. All new club sites in the past few years have been all HS and there is a rolling programme of turning grass pitches into HS on others. Grass would be great if it never rained (or only rained a bit)

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #19

    That's very true Hakinbush......but is it practical to have pitches that are only good for two months of the year?

    Wouldn't it be better to have all hardstandings, but have plenty of grass and planted areas around them?

    More trees between pitches always looks really good.

    Plenty of Tesco & Asda car parks that go by that description around our way Cool

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2016 #20

    Agree fully with my learned friend above.  ....

    Thank you Corners ...... Innocent Kiss

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #21

    Hoy!

  • ADP1963
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    edited March 2016 #22

    Agree fully with my learned friend above.  ....

    Thank you Corners ...... Innocent Kiss

    Write your comments here..Did storm Kate freshen you up Molly or were you at home?.  Worried

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #23

    Agree fully with my learned friend above. All new club sites in the past few years have been all HS and there is a rolling programme of turning grass pitches into HS on others. Grass would be great if it never rained (or only rained a bit)

    Not so, actually......the New Forest Centenary site has a load of grass pitches. Some of them have been converted to hardstanding recently, but there are still a large number of grass pitches.

    Primitive......

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2016 #24

    The problem with coverting grass pitches to hardstandings is that it needs the space of about 3 grass to make two hardstands with a grassed area between ,so sites then have less pitches,which then brings in the "always full" to more sites 

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #25

    That could only be the case if hardstandings are more widely spaced than grass pitches.......another plus! 

  • nick2611
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    edited March 2016 #26

    The problem with coverting grass pitches to hardstandings is that it needs the space of about 3 grass to make two hardstands with a grassed area between ,so sites then have less pitches,which then brings in the "always full" to more sites 

    I suspect there are very very few sites on the Network that are full for more than a few nights per year, a couple of weeks at a push, so giving up a few pitches in favour of easier maintenance and all year round usage seems a reasonable approach....

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #27

    I am afraid virtually the whole of club sites are full at weekends so reducing pitch numbers would be a major problem. Again in peak season during the week a large proprtion of sites are full or virtually full so I would not agree with Nick.

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #28

    But taking a load of pitches out of use, because they are water-logged or destroyed by people driving on them, won't help if sites are popular.....

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #29

    But taking a load of pitches out of use, because they are water-logged or destroyed by people driving on them, won't help if sites are popular.....

    True, the wardens presumably check the pitches to see if they are usable and in this case got it wrong.

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  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #31

    I'm afraid you'll never see hardstandings on sites like St Agnes in Cornwall where the area would be ruined by disfigurements to the landscape. In the winter you'd hadly know there was a caravan site there.