Non awning pitches

mollykins
mollykins Forum Participant Posts: 8
edited March 2016 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Having just returned from a sunny Southport I am prompted to post about the position of pitch pegs.  On the non awning pitches, which are noticeably smaller, the peg is placed in the middle, so a motorhome positions it's offside rear corner to the peg. This leaves half of the pitch empty on the offside and when we open our habitation d

oor on the nearside we are virtually on the grass. Consequently there is no room to put chairs on the hardstanding next to our habitation door, or tie our dog out without it being able to wander on to next doors pitch.

This ridiculous situation applies to most of the non awning pitches at Southport and could be easilly solved by placing the pegs in the corner on all pitches thus allowing the motorhome to use all of the pitch they are paying for. We saw several motorhomes reverse onto non awning pitches, realise they has no space outside their habitation door and drive off in search of a larger pitch. The other consequence of this policy is that motorhomers book awning pitches, where the peg is still  in the middle, but because the pitches are larger there is more space. This deprives those wanting to use awnings of the pitches they need. I think the club needs to rethink this approach and find a more sensible solution.

Rant over, M 

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  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭
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    edited March 2016 #2

    non awning pitches are all to do with the required 3m spacing between outfits. and the peg is really for a corner (either front left or back right) of the caravan so the car will go on the right hand side of the van. I agree this shouldn't or need not apply to a single outfit like a motorhome as it will have more than the required 3m spacing and I have seen motorhomes park with the centre of their MH aligned with the peg but I would check with the warden as stated in all the leaflets I have seen which usually say (something along the lines of) if you wish to park in any other way please check with the warden

  • JD6620
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    edited March 2016 #3

    If the peg was placed in the corner of the pitch it would then be in the wrong place for a caravan and car combination.  Surely the easy answer is to drive on the pitch so the front left corner is against the peg, that way the habitaion door would open onto
    plenty of space.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #4

    MK, you could drive in forwards and have your N/S front corner to the peg. It is 'legal' to park that way around despite what some wardens tell you.

    edit: crossed with your post, JD.

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  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #6

    If the peg was placed in the corner of the pitch it would then be in the wrong place for a caravan and car combination.  Surely the easy answer is to drive on the pitch so the front left corner is against the peg, that way the habitaion
    door would open onto plenty of space.

    Why cant the caravan go on the peg in the corner and the car go next to it.....adjacent to the door?

    then the parking of the 'van' would always be in the same place and the 'spare' area would be occupied nyna MHers canopy/chairs etc and a caravanners' car......

    why does the car need to be on the opposite side to the caravan door? surely the barrels are kept there....?

    I would agree BB I would much prefer the car on the door side of the van. Much easier than trying to squeeze down the side of it to sort the water. Spacing between units should remain unaffected.

  • Navigateur
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    edited March 2016 #7

    The Peg is Sacrosanct!!  That is what we all signed up to.

    However, two Aquarolls, two Wastemasters and a safe space for water heater to exhaust means a tow vehicle on the off-side of the 'van has to be some distance away, and probably on the grass.  There is a seperate thread running at present about THAT!

    So it's an awning pitch for me.  Might even get an awning one of these years.

  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited March 2016 #8

    On harstanding pitches would not be more logical to have the grass area between the pitches the 3 metre barrier? Hence all the instruction has to be is keep off the grass, the gravel bit is yours. It seems to work well enoght on other sites I have been to.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #9

    if you don't have an awning (on a anwing pitch) there is nothing to stop you having the car when the awning would be. I have asked many wardens if I can do that and they all said yes.

    Remember that letter in the club magazine that said caravan + car (as you look at them) was the 'lazy man's way of caravaning'

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2016 #10

    With a caravan on the pitch I do not want to park by its door. That space is where you put out chairs and barbecues.

    Not wanting to get into the caravans v motorhomes bit but they can go onto a pitch in either direction so can always have the door on the side they want.

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #11

    Have to agree with WW, I like to have the car on the opposite side of the van from the door, but then it's rarely a problem on CLs! Wink

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2016 #12

    When we caravanned and went to France and had a pitch that had a hedge all round it we never pitched with the van in the middle of the pitch, it was always to one side or across the back of the pitch. I would much prefer it to be the same on Club sites but
    there seem to be many that don't like that option as their car would be next to their awning. Like the OP, with a motorhome it seems a waste of space being in the middle of the pitch.

    David

  • Freelander359
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    edited March 2016 #13

    The Peg is Sacrosanct!!  That is what we all signed up to.

    However, two Aquarolls, two Wastemasters and a safe space for water heater to exhaust means a tow vehicle on the off-side of the 'van has to be some distance away, and probably on the grass.  There is a seperate thread running at present about THAT!

     Where is the separate thread please ? Would be interested to read, as one site we were on recently there was no way we could get our car between caravan and grass when aligned to the peg.

  • ErnieJH
    ErnieJH Forum Participant Posts: 114
    edited March 2016 #14

    On two site I went to last year the peg was in the corner of the pitch, so the layout was Caravan, Awning(if you had one) and then the car. For me this was ideal as with the current peg postioning it is sometimes difficult to avoid driving on the grass on
    hard standings. So I would prefer this to be the standard layout.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #15

    On two site I went to last year the peg was in the corner of the pitch, so the layout was Caravan, Awning(if you had one) and then the car. For me this was ideal as with the current peg postioning it is sometimes difficult to avoid driving on the grass on
    hard standings. So I would prefer this to be the standard layout.

    Not so good for pulling the van off of the pitch though, if you have to turn in the direction in which the van is against the grass. The van will almost certainly cut across it, often putting a deep rut in wet weather.

  • EJB986
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    edited March 2016 #16

    In the OPs situation I always park nearside (MH) to the peg...don't see a problem!Happy

  • mollykins
    mollykins Forum Participant Posts: 8
    edited March 2016 #17

    Thanks for all your replies, an interesting discussion.  As I see it the problem of insufficient space for chairs etc on smaller non awning pitches with a centre peg applies equally to caravans and motorhomes. I do not want to pitch nose as I do not wish
    to have a view of a hedge and it is totally impractical for caravans. So, in my view, the only sensible solution is for the club to rethink the peg placement.Happy camping. M

  • JillwithaJay
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    edited March 2016 #18

    The Club will never please everyone Mollykins and, for a very short while a couple of years ago, Southport's pegs were in the corner (thus caravan>awning>car) which, at the time, went against the Club's general policy.  I for one detest that way of pitching
    as I don't like my awning view being blocked by my vehicle so I made enquiries of the Sites Team who confirmed that Southport's pitching was incorrect and they amended their pitch peg positions.

    PS  I'm sorry.  WinkHappy

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  • Metheven
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    edited March 2016 #19

    I much prefer the mid pitch peg, I like to park my car on the other side of the caravan out of the way.