Toilet closing times
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The problem with using the shower in the caravan is that the toilet would get soaked......they are in the same cubicle.
Yes but the point WW was making was that it's no great problem having to wait an hour, and it really isn't is it?
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Dunno Micky......maybe you could ask a French owner how they manage it?
Ah, may it be they are family owned, family run! Just ask many of us who run their own businesses. They don't often apply the 'rules' to themselves but need to for their employees who are not family members. Could it be the sites you are talking about fit this family business model?
I do not know, Micky [said with a nonchalent French shrug]
No need for that gallic shrug now Ian, (I wonder if there is an emoticon for that) as we may well have hit upon the reasoning behind how your French sites 'do' it. They are possibly family run sites. Definitely no way you can make any comparisons there in this matter then!
But most are not family run, Micky.......so the comparison is very valid.
I bow to your superior knowledge that most are definitely not family run, that isn't my experience mind, but what we definitely know is that they are not 'club' sites like those you are criticising.
That comparison you therefore make may not be as valid as you clearly think!
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The problem with using the shower in the caravan is that the toilet would get soaked......they are in the same cubicle.
They may be in yours but we've had a seperate shower & toilet in our vans for more years than I can remember. Guess it just depends on which van one chooses and what one wants from ones van.
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The problem with using the shower in the caravan is that the toilet would get soaked......they are in the same cubicle.
They may be in yours but we've had a seperate shower & toilet in our vans for more years than I can remember. Guess it just depends on which van one chooses and what one wants from ones van.
that's correct although sometimes other factors dictate that compromise we may have to make!
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23 hours a day isn't bad availability. You hardly need to make a booking, just plan a little and shower in the other 23.
Its not the other 23 hours though is it , unless you count afternoons and the dead of night as suitable shower times, some folk not us unfortunately manage to sleep in the morning and then low and behold the shower block is closed at say 11. As a general
principle I would regard the convenience of the paying clients as more important than that of the staff and I find this willingness plan around them strange.As you say it is unfair to count the dead of night hours. However, the showers seem to get a fair bit of use in the late afternoon / early evening. Not everyone showers in the morning. I also do not find it an inconvenience. No pun intended.
That's just what I do during the infrequent times we are on a site with shower facilities. I much prefer to have my shower when we get back from our days out or after my afternoon walk. Virually always guaranteed to get a free dry one then too
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The problem with using the shower in the caravan is that the toilet would get soaked......they are in the same cubicle.
They may be in yours but we've had a seperate shower & toilet in our vans for more years than I can remember. Guess it just depends on which van one chooses and what one wants from ones van.
that's correct although sometimes other factors dictate that compromise we may have to make!
But having made that compromise you know what you're getting and what is likely to occur, and you accept it, I suppose.
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Having a shorter caravan I use my shower cubicle as storage and dog feeding station.
I don’t always get up that early when away but as cleaning is carried out very late morning it never clashes with my morning shower.
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The problem with using the shower in the caravan is that the toilet would get soaked......they are in the same cubicle.
They may be in yours but we've had a seperate shower & toilet in our vans for more years than I can remember. Guess it just depends on which van one chooses and what one wants from ones van.
Very true, Nellie......one chose one's van at a time when end bathrooms and fixed beds weren't available, so one compromised. So that's how one is now stuck with a combined toilet / shower. One will be buying another one at some point though......
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Since there is, in my experience, always at least one toilet (usually the disable facility) kept open, and having to possibly wait a short while before showering can hardly be seen as a hardship, I really fail to see why folk are so concerned by this!
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Some of us don't care a hoot Moulesy! We didn't a couple of weeks ago either, too busy having a good time getting on with enjoying ourselves!
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Yes, tda, there are clearly caravanners/MHers whose aim in life is to enjoy themselves and "go with the flow" and then there are those whose aim seems to he to complain about why things aren't done exactly the way they want it. One pitch CLs might be the
answer but I guess there'd still be something not quite right!0 -
I could go for a one pitch CL! We occasionally find an empty CL with only us on it, lovely! Doesn't usually have a toilet block though, open or closed!
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Since there is, in my experience, always at least one toilet (usually the disable facility) kept open, and having to possibly wait a short while before showering can hardly be seen as a hardship, I really fail to see why folk are so concerned by this!
I can't either, all these posts about what time the facilities block is closed
personally I just fit in around the times or use
the ones in the van, and yes we only have a very small toilet/shower combined. Some how we manage even on CL's without any facilities.0 -
A bit of dirt never hurt anyone.
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Just like us H and T! bathroom in our MH is tight, smaller than one in Caravan, but it's still not a problem. Unless you drop the soap! Takes 2 mins to shower, 2 mins to wipe down, easy peasy. Nothing kept in it when on site, only have a couple of chairs
and a bucket when travelling. Makes life so much more flexible. We do use showers on sites if they are available, but our lives are not held to ransom if they are not!I managed Leisure facilities in another life. Toilets and showers are just so much easier to clean properly if no one is around. Hence I can understand Club choosing to close them for an hour to do the job properly once a day, then check them throughout
day. Yet to come across a Club Site with poor cleanliness, not counting the disgusting state some folks leave them in after cleaning. I always thought teaching of flush mechanism and a toilet brush a basic parenting skill, but seems to have been lost down
the generations in some instances. Hard work for some adults!0 -
I too don't find the closure all that much of a problem......we are rarely on site during the day. Can be an issue on departure day though.
But, I think we've moved on a bit.....surely the discussion is now about whether the CC could learn from the way that other organisations do it? If there is a better way to do something, then surely we could all benefit from that, rather than to simply defend the CC way at all costs?
And are they prepared to change anything that they do, or is that stick firmly stuck in the mud?
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I too don't find the closure all that much of a problem......we are rarely on site during the day. Can be an issue on departure day though.
But, I think we've moved on a bit.....surely the discussion is now about whether the CC could learn from the way that other organisations do it? If there is a better way to do something, then surely we could all benefit from that, rather than to simply defend the CC way at all costs?
And are they prepared to change anything that they do, or is that stick firmly stuck in the mud?
If that is the question, in my opinion the answer is No. The cleaning regime is just fine.
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Ian, you and I both know really that this isn't a major issue. Toilet/showers facilities at club sites are always more than adequate, cleaner than at many other sorts of site. The fact that they are closed for an hour a day is a non-problem.
Other places may have different, just as good ways of doing things, but it doesn't automatically make them better, it just makes them different.
For me, the rigid arrival/departure policy is a much more pressing issue than having to wait a short time for a shower, but it's one which, currently I have to go along with if I want to use club sites.
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