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  • Metheven
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    edited March 2016 #362

    Sorry haven't read all the thread, Are these 'kids' for a pound available in just Poundshops, Poundland, Poundworld and 99p stores?

  • Boff
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    edited March 2016 #363

    It is a facet of the English language that the same combination of letters can have different meanings. Pedants please take note. 

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2016 #365

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #366

    Maybe the reason for the "Kids" increase is that we off peakers no longer use CC sites because they are too expensive and the alternatves are better value. We used to subsdise the "holiday" periods with the high off peak charges

    That may well have been the case in the past Fisherman, but it's no justification for wanting your off peak use of your "£45k investment" to be subsidised by sky high prices in school holidays the way that Haven et all do, surely? Wink

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  • moulesy
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    edited March 2016 #368

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

    ....and you to yours.....are you stalking and moderating me now?Undecided

    Hey, I thought that was my job!! WinkLaughingLaughing

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #369

    I doubt there's much change in occupancy off peak but it would be interesting to see. 

    Perhaps, as is often suggested, the higher prices are a deterrent Laughing

    I'm of the view that the much higher summer prices and occupancy subsidises winter use rather than the other way round. It's possible that winter electric costs are higher with higher powered heaters and that has played a part  It's all part of a much bigger
    picture that none of us can see 

    I'm sure that market forces also play a big part in this. Last year price increases were lower than expected and I had a feeling that was because the other club had hiked theirs significantly. The current CC prices are probably trying to play catch up. If
    uptake is lower then I bet they hold prices next year.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2016 #370

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

    ....and you to yours.....are you stalking and moderating me now?Undecided

    BB, alas noSad, I don't have that power I'm afraid. To use your vernacular. . . .Just gentle banterHappy.
    Look on me as your conscienceLaughingCool

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2016 #371

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

    ....and you to yours.....are you stalking and moderating me now?Undecided

    Hey, I thought that was my job!! WinkLaughingLaughing

    M, anyone who is not 'team BB' suffers the same accusationsDon't cry

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #372

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

    ....and you to yours.....are you stalking and moderating me now?Undecided

    Hey, I thought that was my job!! WinkLaughingLaughing

    M, anyone who is not 'team BB' suffers the same accusationsDon't cry

    You beat me to it, Rocky. It's the ego thing again - why would anyone want to stalk?

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  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #376

    Earlier on in the thread, attention was drawn to the 'kids for a penny' increasing to £1, a 99% increase. It is an increase of ten thousand percent. Add in 'peak season' extension and price rises. Pips, squeezing, squeak! The bean counters have taken over,
    as in so many other areas of life.

    The "kids" included are aged five to seventeen so although there aren't many sites doing this it does help some families. Many commercial sites have a low top age for "kids."

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #377

    Generally the top age for 'kids' is 14 we have found. It is probably why club sites have been so much cheaper for us even without the 1p/£1 offers 

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #378

    The "all in" price of £14.00 for somehwere like Ifracombe is excellent value too. Plymouth Sound and some others come in overall at a little bit more. It would be good to have an easy search for the cheapest sites by date (unless I've missed this?!)

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #379

    I see Stover is much the same price as last year, Marazion too. They still represent good value in my book.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2016 #380

    BB, regardless of what anyone says you will invariably stick to your raison d'etreSad

    ....and you to yours.....are you stalking and moderating me now?Undecided

    Hey, I thought that was my job!! WinkLaughingLaughing

    M, anyone who is not 'team BB' suffers the same accusationsDon't cry

    You beat me to it, Rocky. It's the ego thing again - why would anyone want to stalk?

    ...and as for this unnecceasry, chip in......Sad...

    why bother other than just to aggravate or is it for that next star....?.

     

    In line with Rowena's wishes, I am not responding to this antagonistic post.

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #381

    But you just have....can we get back on track?

    Excessive site charges.

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #382

    After reading both last month and this months club magazine i am shocked at the prices charged for club sites Most around £30 per night. We  very tour in the uk But use sites abroad Using both the Acsi Card and Camping checks the average cost per night for
    2 people /dog and electric is about £13. per night (albe it in low season which is when we go) why are the club stes so expensive Bearing in mind we all pay a subscription of £49 to join the club.

    Here is the OP.

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2016 #383

    The prices in the magazine were for Easter holidays for two adults and two children as I recall 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2016 #384

    Yes and an avarage sort of price for peak?

  • BrianJosie
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    edited March 2016 #385

    After reading both last month and this months club magazine i am shocked at the prices charged for club sites Most around £30 per night. We  very tour in the uk But use sites abroad Using both the Acsi Card and Camping checks the average cost per night for
    2 people /dog and electric is about £13. per night (albe it in low season which is when we go) why are the club stes so expensive Bearing in mind we all pay a subscription of £49 to join the club.

    Write your comments here...

    Just looking at the East Coast from 11/4.  Haven are offering Hardstanding pitch plusEHU at £8 per night for 2 people.Near CC club- West Ayton  £19-90. Thats what you call excessive charging.We are now looking every time at alternatives and can see us use
    very fewCC sites this year.

    Write your comments here...try and get bed and breakfast for £30 a night for 2peopleCool

    Brian & Jo

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2016 #386

    See your point Tiffin but people who stay in B&B etc, don't pay any capital costs and then tow an airbreak at half the mpg as vanners and MH do.  So IMO  not really a like for like comparison

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #387

    In answer to the op......the reason that CC prices are so high is because they are not terribly efficient and have a huge head office overhead to pay for.

    They are rather old fashioned and appear to still believe that, if they just keep putting up prices, they will increase profits. It doesn't work like that, because people shop around and find cheaper sites to use. Hence the empty CC sites mid week and out of season.

    (Yes, their sites may be full over Easter......so are virtually all sites. That does not change my point).

    Once people have realised that there is life outside the CC (the organisation they probably joined when they first bought a caravan or m/h, because it was the 'done thing') then they will keep using other sites......it becomes a steady but inevitable decline.

    Some on this forum will not hear anything said against the CC and will keep paying the ever increasing prices. Whilst this appears on the surface to be supportive of the CC, unfortunately they are, in the long term, contributing to its demise.

    We have recently seen the CC trying to sell off at least three of our sites......selling the family jewels springs to mind. This downward spiral will continue unless / untill we demand more realistic pricing on CC sites and greater efficiency within the organisation as a whole.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #388

    The "all in" price of £14.00 for somehwere like Ifracombe is excellent value too. Plymouth Sound and some others come in overall at a little bit more. It would be good to have an easy search for the cheapest sites by date (unless I've missed this?!)

    The easiest way to do this is obtain the printed copy of this years prices and work out the rates on each site for each booking period, including MWD. Should take one a hour or so to do the whol;e network and you''ll have the solution readily at hand. A
    quick glance at the list will then solve your question. Simples!Happy

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2016 #389

    In answer to the op......the reason that CC prices are so high is because they are not terribly efficient and have a huge head office overhead to pay for.

    They are rather old fashioned and appear to still believe that, if they just keep putting up prices, they will increase profits. It doesn't work like that, because people shop around and find cheaper sites to use. Hence the empty CC sites mid week and out
    of season.

    (Yes, their sites may be full over Easter......so are virtually all sites. That does not change my point).

    Once people have realised that there is life outside the CC (the organisation they probably joined when they first bought a caravan or m/h, because it was the 'done thing') then they will keep using other sites......it becomes a steady but inevitable decline.

    Some on this forum will not hear anything said against the CC and will keep paying the ever increasing prices. Whilst this appears on the surface to be supportive of the CC, unfortunately they are, in the long term, contributing to its demise.

    We have recently seen the CC trying to sell off at least three of our sites......selling the family jewels springs to mind. This downward spiral will continue unless / untill we demand more realistic pricing on CC sites and greater efficiency within the
    organisation as a whole.

    If the CC's that bad, Ian, can I ask why you're still a member? Is it just to put the whole organisation down?

  • brue
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    edited March 2016 #390

    The "all in" price of £14.00 for somehwere like Ifracombe is excellent value too. Plymouth Sound and some others come in overall at a little bit more. It would be good to have an easy search for the cheapest sites by date (unless I've missed this?!)

    The easiest way to do this is obtain the printed copy of this years prices and work out the rates on each site for each booking period, including MWD. Should take one a hour or so to do the whol;e network and you''ll have the solution readily at hand. A
    quick glance at the list will then solve your question. Simples!Happy

    ...Yes that certainly sounds about right....Winking

  • IanH
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    edited March 2016 #391

    In answer to the op......the reason that CC prices are so high is because they are not terribly efficient and have a huge head office overhead to pay for.

    They are rather old fashioned and appear to still believe that, if they just keep putting up prices, they will increase profits. It doesn't work like that, because people shop around and find cheaper sites to use. Hence the empty CC sites mid week and out
    of season.

    (Yes, their sites may be full over Easter......so are virtually all sites. That does not change my point).

    Once people have realised that there is life outside the CC (the organisation they probably joined when they first bought a caravan or m/h, because it was the 'done thing') then they will keep using other sites......it becomes a steady but inevitable decline.

    Some on this forum will not hear anything said against the CC and will keep paying the ever increasing prices. Whilst this appears on the surface to be supportive of the CC, unfortunately they are, in the long term, contributing to its demise.

    We have recently seen the CC trying to sell off at least three of our sites......selling the family jewels springs to mind. This downward spiral will continue unless / untill we demand more realistic pricing on CC sites and greater efficiency within the
    organisation as a whole.

    If the CC's that bad, Ian, can I ask why you're still a member? Is it just to put the whole organisation down?

    < sigh >