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  • Fisherman
    Fisherman Forum Participant Posts: 2,367
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    edited May 2016 #242

    Srange no one bothered to reply direct to my e mail.

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,660 ✭✭✭
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    edited May 2016 #243

    Srange no one bothered to reply direct to my e mail.

    Some have it, some don't!WinkSealed 

    What I did was talk directly to one of the ladies on the clubs chat line and my comments obviously touched a sore spot I guess.

  • Wildwood
    Wildwood Club Member Posts: 3,585
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    edited May 2016 #244

    Couples do pay less per person when you look at the total fee but that is not how the fee is caculated. The fee is based on two things, the pitch fee and a per capita fee. The principal cost to the club is the pitch including rent, rates, maintanance, staff, electricity etc.

    Adding the second person does not cost the club the £7plus on most sites. The second person adds a bit to the water and waste bill and maybe a bit more electricity but that is all and must cost pence rather than pounds.

    When you bring the family and we had three children the cost gets out of hand despute the fact the cost to the club has probably not even reached the charge for the second adult. As a result the club is driving out families as seen on another thread here.

    If the club wants families then they need to look at what they offer and currently it is not good enough. At the same time solo members are getting a far better deal as they are not being fleeced on the second and more occupants.

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  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited May 2016 #246

    Laughingi think youre looking through the wrong end of the telescope....Wink

    most of the folk posting on here are interested in the cost per person.....rather than focussing how much the club 'needs' to make everytime they 'sell' the pitch...

    cc obviously 'need' more that the pitch fee alone, Happyotherwise why charge it....so lets say they need £12 (arbitrary figure....) 

    how do they get this.....charge one single fee of £20 to cover costs and profit, irrespective of how many use that pitch....?Happy

    well, this certainly makes it much more expensive for a single than the £10 each a couple would pay...

    so, they had to come up with some other 'formula'....hence the pitch fee.....and a charge per person...

    its no good suggesting that the 2nd person is getting ripped off (as the pitch fee 'gets paid' by the first person) when in fact you could say they get to stay for a 'person' fee only....

    finding the happy medium is difficult....

    lower the pitch fee and raise the 'person' fee and ot becomes expensive for families..

    raise the pitch fee and single stayers feel the pinch....

    at the end of the day, the club wants its £20 average per pitch.... with the prevailing demographic being couples, this might be seen as a baseline....ome pitch fee plus two person fees equals around £20.

    so, we end up with something like £6 + (2 x £7).

    so (as there will always be at least one occupant paying a person and a pitch fee) the lowest income with a single would be £13....

    move up on occupancy to a family and you might get £6 + (2 x £7) + (2 x £4) = £28 (not sure what a kids rate is...)

    so.....our single pays £13 pp

    a couple pays £10 pp

    a family pays £6.50 pp (roughly half the single rate....yet might use four times as much water for showering etc)

    throw in kids @ £1 now (i think) and we have a family cost of £22 or £5.50 pp....

    so, the dividing up of the so called 'fixed costs' of the pitch make it far cheaper per head for a family than for a single...

    does this make the club family focussed....? i suppose it does and this must be a good thing...

    to redress the balance somewhat, perhaps the pitch fee should be slightly lower (say £4 in my example and the per person fee raised slightly to, say, £9.

    my three examples would now read...

    single £4 + £9 = £13.   (£13 pp)

    couple £4 + (2 x £9) = £22 (£11 pp)

    family with kids at £5 would be £4 + (2 x £9) + (2 x £5) =£32 (£8 pp)

    family with kids at £1 would be £4 + (2 x £9) + (2 x £1) =£24 (£6 pp)

    the club still makes its 'buck' but the costs are more equitable accross the piece....

    Write your comments here...BB you clearly have too much time on your hands :-)

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  • Wildwood
    Wildwood Club Member Posts: 3,585
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    edited May 2016 #248

    The problem when charging per person is that it makes the total fee excessive if you add more adults past the first two or you have three or more children. No system is going to work for everyone but I still think a higher pitch price and a lower charge
    for the occupants would work better overall.

    I did look at Boleroboys suggestion but the charges are simplytoo low for most sites and if you increase the charge for occupants above what we have now, and you would need to, to balance the books, the cost would be beyond many couples and families would
    disappear altogether.