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  • milliehull
    milliehull Forum Participant Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2016 #32

    I do feel CC site fees are getting rather expensive.  It always rather takes my breath away when I read the bottom line with the price when I am booking.  We have sometimes decided to shorten our stay to bring the price down.  We are also now using more
    non CC sites.

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2016 #33

    £27.50 is way more than we'd pay, even for a Bank Holiday, but if you compare it to similar sites in York it's about the average. (Willow House was £31 this year, I believe!).

    Sad. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    Fortunately there are loads of CLs in the area at a much more reasonable price.

    Happy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2016 #34

    £27.50 is way more than we'd pay, even for a Bank Holiday, but if you compare it to similar sites in York it's about the average. (Willow House was £31 this year, I believe!). Sad. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    Fortunately there are loads of CLs in the area at a much more reasonable price. Happy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    ..And i think one site in/near York is in the river now (not rowntree)so less choice

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #35

    The price hike for school holidays is scandalous, I looked at taking the Gkids away one bank holiday to one of the holiday parks before half term £260 for the week half term week £650 needless to say I didn't take them away. The trouble is some parent will
    pay it as they have very little choice.

  • Rubytuesday
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    edited January 2016 #36

    We have done very similar to. Millie since last July up to November 23 sites we have not booked onto a c c site as we are now retired we can go away more often and stay longer so we done our own experiment and comparing with cc sites on the 23 sites we saved
    £272 on site fees alone , I must admit these did include some CLs and other sites not of the CC standard but as were only between 2/3 nights stay all was fine , we also saved a few £s on diesel to as some of the sites and CLs were much  closer to the towns
    we wanted to visit than the CC sites, 

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2016 #37

    "The price hike for school holidays is scandalous ..."


    Absolutely correct, TG, though not confined to CC. Spare a thought for those poor teachers who have no alternative but to pay them! Wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2016 #38

    I would be quite interested to know just how well Club Sites perform over this next year, purely from a personal interest. I hope that the information does become available, and it would be great if each individual site (not including AS or MUC sites) had
    a brief spreadsheet showing pitch usage. I am sure this information has to be sent to HQ, so would be very interesting if such information was available to members. Drawback of course is that it is possibly too sensitive to put out into the public arena for
    competitors to view. Just a one site results sheet would suffice to satisfy my curiosity. 

    We were out some 155 nights approximately last year, in all seasons. Had we used all Club Sites, this would have been in region of £3850 (using an average fee of £25 per night). But we used a variety of sites, and our average was closer to £13.50 per night,
    so significantly less in pitch fees for the year. no disappointing sites either, all were very nice.

     

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2016 #39

    "The price hike for school holidays is scandalous ..."



    Absolutely correct, TG, though not confined to CC. Spare a thought for those poor teachers who have no alternative but to pay them! Wink

    I suppose these days, unless you want to pay a fine, it applies to the parents as well.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2016 #40

    these 'peak' and 'shoulder' seasons are getting longer every year. it'll be difficult soon to find a date that doesnt have some sort of 'premium' attachd to it..

    BB, I made is exact point in a previous post. Shortly there will be no low season on a lot of sites. Some now only have a couple or so weeks that fall into that bracket. The complicated system of having so many different price levels across
    the club's sites just goes to hide this.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #41

    "The price hike for school holidays is scandalous ..."



    Absolutely correct, TG, though not confined to CC. Spare a thought for those poor teachers who have no alternative but to pay them! Wink

    I do moulesy, DIL is a TA so confined to school hols. I think ever holiday company, airlines etc. hike the prices so no not just the CC.

  • Fozzie
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    edited January 2016 #42

    these 'peak' and 'shoulder' seasons are getting longer every year. it'll be difficult soon to find a date that doesnt have some sort of 'premium' attachd to it..

    BB, I made is exact point in a previous post. Shortly there will be no low season on a lot of sites. Some now only have a couple or so weeks that fall into that bracket. The complicated system of having so many different price levels across
    the club's sites just goes to hide this.

    Write your comments here...I have booked Henley Four Oaks for the opening weekend (March 18th) and this period has been classed as "high" season.The people who set these prices do not miss a trick with an early Easter the following weekend.

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2016 #43

    "The price hike for school holidays is scandalous ..."



    Absolutely correct, TG, though not confined to CC. Spare a thought for those poor teachers who have no alternative but to pay them! Wink

    I do moulesy, DIL is a TA so confined to school hols. I think ever holiday company, airlines etc. hike the prices so no not just the CC.

    Our son's wife is a primary teacher, and our daughter is soon to marry an English teacher, so they all have that problem, even after their children are finished school.

  • Boff
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    edited January 2016 #44

    "The price hike for school holidays is scandalous ..."



    Absolutely correct, TG, though not confined to CC. Spare a thought for those poor teachers who have no alternative but to pay them! Wink

    I do moulesy, DIL is a TA so confined to school hols. I think ever holiday company, airlines etc. hike the prices so no not just the CC.

    Our son's wife is a primary teacher, and our daughter is soon to marry an English teacher, so they all have that problem, even after their children are finished school.

    It's called demand management.  If the price was the same throughout the season, then there would be no incentive for those who can book  outside of peak season to book quieter times.  Then there would be even less availability during the school holidays. 

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  • Boff
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    edited January 2016 #46

    Of course the trick for the Caravan Club would be to position the charges as a discount for those that can go outside of peak times rather than a premium for those tied to what are effectively the school holidays. 

    I just think people are to quick to shout rip off or scandal without thinking things through. 

    PS   A Scottish acquaintance of mine says it is cheaper for him to drive with his family from Edinburgh to Manchester stay a night in a hotel rather than flying from  a Scottish airport during the times when Scottish schools are off but not English. 

  • milliehull
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    edited January 2016 #47

    Our youngest son and his family live in N.Ireland where the schools break up at the end of June so they usually come over to England for the first 2 weeks of July so they can take advantage of hopefully cheaper rates.  When we were all in N.Yorks during
    that period last summer there were a lot of N.Ireland registered cars about.  So I hope England don't decide to 'cash in' and extend the peak period to cover those dates as well.

    Our SIL is a teacher so he and our daughter know that even when their children leave school they will have no option but to still holiday during 'peak' season with 'peak' rates.

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2016 #48

    Of course the trick for the Caravan Club would be to position the charges as a discount for those that can go outside of peak times rather than a premium for those tied to what are effectively the school holidays. 

    I just think people are to quick to shout rip off or scandal without thinking things through. 

    PS   A Scottish acquaintance of mine says it is cheaper for him to drive with his family from Edinburgh to Manchester stay a night in a hotel rather than flying from  a Scottish airport during the times when Scottish schools are off but not English. 

    The trick with the airports was pointed out on TV some time ago citing the cost of a train to Manchester or iusing Newcastle. The option for people in the North of England is then to fly from Glasgow or Edinburgh in August and make similar savings.

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2016 #49

    Our youngest son and his family live in N.Ireland where the schools break up at the end of June so they usually come over to England for the first 2 weeks of July so they can take advantage of hopefully cheaper rates.  When we were all in N.Yorks during
    that period last summer there were a lot of N.Ireland registered cars about.  So I hope England don't decide to 'cash in' and extend the peak period to cover those dates as well.

    Our SIL is a teacher so he and our daughter know that even when their children leave school they will have no option but to still holiday during 'peak' season with 'peak' rates.

    People in Scotland can make the same saving in the first two weeks of July as the schools here are on holiday then.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #50

    If you look at October you will see that just about the whole month is school half term, Scottish schools have 2 weeks break, locally its the first 2 weeks while another area has 2nd and 3rd week, most of England has 3rd or 4th week trying to book flights
    for October will usually mean inflated prices across the board. We are flying to Gran Canaria last week of September the flight out is a good price we return on the 8th October , rtn flight a bit dearer but the weeks after that much more expensive as the schools
    break up.

    We normally return from France/Spain at the end of June just as the Scottish schools break up, we then still have 3 weeks to enjoy using the van before the big price hike. 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #51

    Of course the trick for the Caravan Club would be to position the charges as a discount for those that can go outside of peak times rather than a premium for those tied to what are effectively the school holidays. 

    I just think people are to quick to shout rip off or scandal without thinking things through. 

    PS   A Scottish acquaintance of mine says it is cheaper for him to drive with his family from Edinburgh to Manchester stay a night in a hotel rather than flying from  a Scottish airport during the times when Scottish schools are off but not English. 

    We have looked at doing that in the past but its not worked out cheaper for us, for a family it might be worth it though. The problem with Scottish airports is they don't always fly to lots of resorts especially from mid October - May we frequently have
    to go via London or Manchester.

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2016 #52

    Of course the trick for the Caravan Club would be to position the charges as a discount for those that can go outside of peak times rather than a premium for those tied to what are effectively the school holidays. 

    I just think people are to quick to shout rip off or scandal without thinking things through. 

    PS   A Scottish acquaintance of mine says it is cheaper for him to drive with his family from Edinburgh to Manchester stay a night in a hotel rather than flying from  a Scottish airport during the times when Scottish schools are off but not English. 

    We have looked at doing that in the past but its not worked out cheaper for us, for a family it might be worth it though. The problem with Scottish airports is they don't always fly to lots of resorts especially from mid October - May we frequently have to go via London or Manchester.

    It may not work for everybody but it is worth checking out. It is probably best for the most popular destinations. Both airports have added a lot of flights recently so the problem may not apply now.

  • milliehull
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    edited January 2016 #53

    N.Ireland airports are the same Tammygirl.  They usually have to fly to London and then onwards from there.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #54

    N.Ireland airports are the same Tammygirl.  They usually have to fly to London and then onwards from there.

    Yes I would imagine they are, such a painFrown

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2016 #55

    Boff, agreed, to a point....

    but even at similar prices, many who can go at 'any' time would still avoid the busy times, as they are too......'busy'....

    but i did notice a post the other day where the high season at scottish sites had been extended to include the english AND scottish school breaks (they are different) so as to 'catch' english customers holidaying in Scotland, at full price, despite the locals
    still being at school.....

    some might say thats good business, but others might think 'sharp practice'....

    i hope (for those that have to suffer these 'anomalies') that Wales and Ireland dont choose differing dates for their school holidays, or it will be one long 'peak'.......

    The peak CC  prices in summer, July and August , were always previously geared to the English school holidays, so up here we have always had to pay peak prices the last 2 weeks in August, even though our schools are back.

    Used to be you could holiday in early July up here at a lower price, but now they have realised the school holidays here are different so have included the first 2 weeks in the peak period for Scottish sites, but I think English sites have remained the same
    as before.

    So it seems it is Scottish caravanners in Scotland who are disadvantaged in summer.

  • Gee2wt
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    edited January 2016 #56

    I have just arrived at Beechwood and informed the Wardens about this blog and the pricing which is actually wrongly advertised on the Club booking site.  £27.50 a night as is on the the site is wrong if you continue to the booking page you will find its
    £17.50 for 2 adults and the pitch. The wardens were oblivious to the wrong price being advertised and when I told them they said we wondered why it was quiet, we expected to be a lot busier due to Rowntree being closed . They have now informed the IT department
    about the mistake and hopefully it will be quickly sorted out. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2016 #57

    Boff, agreed, to a point....

    but even at similar prices, many who can go at 'any' time would still avoid the busy times, as they are too......'busy'....

    but i did notice a post the other day where the high season at scottish sites had been extended to include the english AND scottish school breaks (they are different) so as to 'catch' english customers holidaying in Scotland, at full price, despite the locals still being at school.....

    some might say thats good business, but others might think 'sharp practice'....

    i hope (for those that have to suffer these 'anomalies') that Wales and Ireland dont choose differing dates for their school holidays, or it will be one long 'peak'.......

    The peak CC  prices in summer, July and August , were always previously geared to the English school holidays, so up here we have always had to pay peak prices the last 2 weeks in August, even though our schools are back.

    Used to be you could holiday in early July up here at a lower price, but now they have realised the school holidays here are different so have included the first 2 weeks in the peak period for Scottish sites, but I think English sites have remained the same as before.

    So it seems it is Scottish caravanners in Scotland who are disadvantaged in summer.

    I had not noticed the rise but I suppose it means the club have noticed what a lot of the tourist industry already knew. It basically puts us in the same position as our English and Welsh neighbours when they holiday in their own countries school holidays.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2016 #58

    I have just arrived at Beechwood and informed the Wardens about this blog and the pricing which is actually wrongly advertised on the Club booking site.  £27.50 a night as is on the the site is wrong if you continue to the booking page you will find its
    £17.50 for 2 adults and the pitch. The wardens were oblivious to the wrong price being advertised and when I told them they said we wondered why it was quiet, we expected to be a lot busier due to Rowntree being closed . They have now informed the IT department
    about the mistake and hopefully it will be quickly sorted out. 

    That seems strange, Gee, as Rowena has stated that she was going to inform the relevent department a couple of weks ago when it was pointed out on here then. See pg 3 of this posting. Just another case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand does. 

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2016 #59

    Boff, agreed, to a point....

    but even at similar prices, many who can go at 'any' time would still avoid the busy times, as they are too......'busy'....

    but i did notice a post the other day where the high season at scottish sites had been extended to include the english AND scottish school breaks (they are different) so as to 'catch' english customers holidaying in Scotland, at full price, despite the locals
    still being at school.....

    some might say thats good business, but others might think 'sharp practice'....

    i hope (for those that have to suffer these 'anomalies') that Wales and Ireland dont choose differing dates for their school holidays, or it will be one long 'peak'.......

    The peak CC  prices in summer, July and August , were always previously geared to the English school holidays, so up here we have always had to pay peak prices the last 2 weeks in August, even though our schools are back.

    Used to be you could holiday in early July up here at a lower price, but now they have realised the school holidays here are different so have included the first 2 weeks in the peak period for Scottish sites, but I think English sites have remained the same
    as before.

    So it seems it is Scottish caravanners in Scotland who are disadvantaged in summer.

    I had not noticed the rise but I suppose it means the club have noticed what a lot of the tourist industry already knew. It basically puts us in the same position as our English and Welsh neighbours when they holiday in their own countries school holidays.

    No, not so , as we are paying peak prices from when our schools break up in late June  till  the English schools go back in early September, despite our schools being back at least 2 weeks before that.

    So the peak season in Scotland is now 2 months+, while the peak season in England is just the English school holidays.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2016 #60

     

    The peak CC  prices in summer, July and August , were always previously geared to the English school holidays, so up here we have always had to pay peak prices the last 2 weeks in August, even though our schools are back.

    Used to be you could holiday in early July up here at a lower price, but now they have realised the school holidays here are different so have included the first 2 weeks in the peak period for Scottish sites, but I think English sites have remained the same
    as before.

    So it seems it is Scottish caravanners in Scotland who are disadvantaged in summer.

    I had not noticed the rise but I suppose it means the club have noticed what a lot of the tourist industry already knew. It basically puts us in the same position as our English and Welsh neighbours when they holiday in their own countries school holidays.

    No, not so , as we are paying peak prices from when our schools break up in late June  till  the English schools go back in early September, despite our schools being back at least 2 weeks before that.

    So the peak season in Scotland is now 2 months+, while the peak season in England is just the English school holidays.

    Maybe us Scottish members using a Scottish site from mid August will get a discountUndecided

  • milliehull
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    edited January 2016 #61

    I think the price strcture seems to be very unfair. It smacks of 'cashing in'.