Awning and non awning pitch bookings
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Some sites have fairly narrow awning pitches and you put your car in front. 3m might be pushing it in these circumstances, if you want to stay within the confines of the pitch
Very true, we had that problem on a site in Wales a few years ago the pitch was very long but narrow, we managed to get the porch awning up just, but it would never have taken the full awning. The caravan was right on the edge of the H/S and the water barrel
was on the grass, we did book an awning pitch but as Steve says some are narrow and the car goes in front.0 -
My personal belief is that non-awning pitches shoul, in general, not exist. If space is tight then less pitches should prevail.
as we have a lot of posts complaining about lack of pitches, perhaps those posters might want more pitches to prevail at the expense of awning pitches?
especially if they dont use one....
They might. I don't. I will always book for an awning pitch whether I intend to use one or not with a few exceptions. Just because I don't erect an awning does not mean that I don't wish to use that space at some point in the day with a table and chairs.
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The problem with just going for awning pitches is if a site is busy there might only be non awning pitches available,and since the "fire regs"started to encroach,on what used to be awning pitches,there are numerose sites with "large" non awning pitches,Sandringham and Seacroft are two that we have noted and both were all hardstanding
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from comments so far, it seems there's no hard and fast ruling on awning width and that parking the car in front is acceptable if the awning makes it a tight squeeze. But is this down to each indiviual warden or a general CC rule?
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The problem with just going for awning pitches is if a site is busy there might only be non awning pitches available,and since the "fire regs"started to encroach,on what used to be awning pitches,there are numerose sites with "large" non awning pitches,Sandringham
and Seacroft are two that we have noted and both were all hardstandingNot a problem for me as I will have already booked an awning pitch
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from comments so far, it seems there's no hard and fast ruling on awning width and that parking the car in front is acceptable if the awning makes it a tight squeeze. But is this down to each indiviual warden or a general CC rule?
On most pitches there is no option of putting a car in front. Some however there is no other option if you want awning space as that is how the layout has been designed. On those sites reversing onto pitch using the car can be damned tight.
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from comments so far, it seems there's no hard and fast ruling on awning width and that parking the car in front is acceptable if the awning makes it a tight squeeze. But is this down to each indiviual warden or a general CC rule?
I think it depends mostly on the site. To park in front of a caravan you would need longer than standard pitches which some sites have or a very short caravan. Where this is needed the wardens will usually tell you but the only site I can remember being
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Geoff, the Wardens are not anal when it comes to rules, I've pushed my luck on numerous occasions re setting up due to odd shapes of pitches. If the Warden can see you've been fair & not blatantly ignored the general rules you'll be good. Don't fall into
the trap of believing a lot of what is said-they won't be their checking for inch perfection. They have more important things to concern themselves with
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Geoff, the Wardens are not anal when it comes to rules, I've pushed my luck on numerous occasions re setting up due to odd shapes of pitches. If the Warden can see you've been fair & not blatantly ignored the general rules you'll be good. Don't fall into the trap of believing a lot of what is said-they won't be their checking for inch perfection. They have more important things to concern themselves with
Write your comments here...
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Geoff, the Wardens are not anal when it comes to rules, I've pushed my luck on numerous occasions re setting up due to odd shapes of pitches. If the Warden can see you've been fair & not blatantly ignored the general rules you'll be good. Don't fall into
the trap of believing a lot of what is said-they won't be their checking for inch perfection. They have more important things to concern themselves withI am sure in most cases Rocky you are correct. However, what Geoff was asking is would it exceed the pitch. The answer to this, certainly at several of the sites we stay at is yes. I'm not saying you won't get away with straying onto the grass a bit, but
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Steve, you can say what you like. I gave my opinion on my experiences. I have 'strayed' onto the grass by feet, I mainly use the grass to secure my awning. I have had more problems with 'finger wagging' anal types-Wardens?, they've been fine
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The problem with just going for awning pitches is if a site is busy there might only be non awning pitches available,and since the "fire regs"started to encroach,on what used to be awning pitches,there are numerose sites with "large" non awning pitches,Sandringham
and Seacroft are two that we have noted and both were all hardstandingWhen booking I usually find the non awning pitches are taken. On the sites where there are free non awning ones I often avoid them as I assume they are the sites where these are simply not as good and I have seen some bad ones.
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I am not sure that the non-awning ones are any more likely to be 'not as good' to be honest - we have fallen for a similar logic once by booking a serviced pitch assuming they would be better and in actual fact when we arrived there were a lot of 'normal'
pitches that were much nicer. Add to that the fact that the drain (grey water only) was in the middle of the pitch at the back, and in order to fit the caravan on we had to pitch over it so it was useless, we would have definitely been better going for a
'normal' pitch.Some of the non- awning pitches we have seen have been really nice and would easily have accomodated our little porch. So maybe full awnings and porches need to be treated differently.............(only joking - we dont need any more different pitch types!!)
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It is about time they charged for awnings instead trying to please everybody, so if you use an awning pitch it is your choice whether you put one up.
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Agree with that Hooker.......it's what every where else does and it can't be that the CC have got it right and everyone else has got it wrong.
Some of the sites the sites we have stayed on charge for an awning, if erected, but the pitches are all the same size. Don't go giving the CC ideas Ian.
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Some of the sites the sites we have stayed on charge for an awning, if erected,
But should a small porch awning with no groundsheet be the same price as a humungous canvas bungalow that more than doubles the footprint of the van?
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Maybe the Warden could trot up & measure the footprint of the awning/bungalow/porch awning & charge by the metre or part thereof. Here we go again-so many complaining the CC have too many rules & others trying to put another raft of rules in place
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I think they should also offer hardstanding or grass pitches. if you want awning/hardstand you pay the full price. then slightly less for a without awning pitch withhard standing. even less for grass.
I understand your thinking and many would agree, however the grass pitches must lose money and cost much more to maintain, H/S once installed are very low on maintenance and can be used all year round.
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but if they cost less some people would consider it more as the costs are ever increasing and don't mind if I was guaranteed a hardstaning pitch and if they are less cost why don't we have more of them!
Why indeed. I think one of the answers is that on some sites they have to retain so many grass to comply with planning regulations or something like that. Also the club are trying to please all its members. I'm firmly in the camp that I would not book a
grass pitch as my first option, especially months ahead and in this country.0 -
I think they should also offer hardstanding or grass pitches. if you want awning/hardstand you pay the full price. then slightly less for a without awning pitch withhard standing. even less for grass.
I understand your thinking and many would agree, however the grass pitches must lose money and cost much more to maintain, H/S once installed are very low on maintenance and can be used all year round.
In that case, get rid of the grass pitches......
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but if they cost less some people would consider it more as the costs are ever increasing and don't mind if I was guaranteed a hardstaning pitch and if they are less cost why don't we have more of them!
Why indeed. I think one of the answers is that on some sites they have to retain so many grass to comply with planning regulations or something like that. Also the club are trying to please all its members. I'm firmly in the camp that I would not book a
grass pitch as my first option, especially months ahead and in this country.I would be stunned if there could be a planning condition that would require some pitches to be grass.......and in the highly unlikely event that there were, it would be easily challenged.
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but if they cost less some people would consider it more as the costs are ever increasing and don't mind if I was guaranteed a hardstaning pitch and if they are less cost why don't we have more of them!
Why indeed. I think one of the answers is that on some sites they have to retain so many grass to comply with planning regulations or something like that. Also the club are trying to please all its members. I'm firmly in the camp that I would not book a
grass pitch as my first option, especially months ahead and in this country.I would be stunned if there could be a planning condition that would require some pitches to be grass.......and in the highly unlikely event that there were, it would be easily challenged.
IanH, I'm pretty sure when this was discussed before there was something (maybe not planning as such) conditions to the lease maybe. However I do remember that the club said that on some sites they have to have some grass pitches
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there some sites down South that are all grass for this reason.0
