2016 Site Fees and Site Renovations
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But Kjell, a few months ago you were looking at motorhomes costing £50,000
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Absolutely agree BB. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, I fully endorse that
. By putting that opinion on a publicly viewed forum
then entitles others to comment-that's what I have done. . . .Comment. Logic?, to me logic is king, to baulk at paying £'s when the ability to spend 10's of thousands seems illogical-to me. Hey, but that's my personal opinion. I do quirky things but I don't
share them with the world
, if I did I'd accept others opinions on them
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Without proof KJ it's an opinion, your opinion. Mine are in my post. If you wish to discount them-I accept that-no problem.
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Without proof KJ it's an opinion, your opinion. Mine are in my post. If you wish to discount them-I accept that-no problem.
I think you need to check the definition of an opinion.
You may be posting an opinion, I was posting a fact.
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Just booked some sites and wow the prices are much higher than in the 2015/2016 books shows! Have I missed out on a fee update booklet which is normally sent out when prices are changed?
Write your comments here...I wouldn't worry too much about it. The minimum wage is going up too, so we'll all be earning more as well. So in relative terms, it will probably work out the same.
Not if you are retired!
My pension will not be going up by anything like as much as the site fees.
Write your comments here...It should go up if it's index-linked.
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Write your comments here...Yes but the Caravan Club has to pay all its staff more because of the rise in minimum wage and they also have to pay more for cost of maintenance of club sites. How would they fund this without increasing site fees?
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Without proof KJ it's an opinion, your opinion. Mine are in my post. If you wish to discount them-I accept that-no problem.
I think you need to check the definition of an opinion.
You may be posting an opinion, I was posting a fact.
Thankyou KJ, I've checked it. My posts still stand. You opinions are yours, mine are mine. You are taking this aside personally, I am not. Apologies for the thread drift-I'm done
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You could always do what I'm doing, KjellNN, which is to supplement your pension with a pizza delivery driver job!
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Write your comments here...Yes but the Caravan Club has to pay all its staff more because of the rise in minimum wage and they also have to pay more for cost of maintenance of club sites. How would they fund this without increasing site fees?
I think we are all aware that the leisure industry will face increased costs due to the increase in the minimum wage, but that was not the point you were making to aeromike, and it is that post of yours which I was commenting on.
Many people, including those who are retired, will not benefit from any increase in the minimum wage.
The % increase in site fees in the last few years has far exceeded the % increases in wages, and pensions, that the vast majority of us have had, it's not just this year.
Not everyone who caravans is well off, we should all remember that, no matter our own circumstances.
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You could always do what I'm doing, KjellNN, which is to supplement your pension with a pizza delivery driver job!
Too busy enjoying my retirement for that Malcolm!
We will just spend more time abroad, where a nice, full facility, site can be found for well under £14 per night, and in UK will use more CLs or seek out deals outside of the CC when we feel it necessary.
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Write your comments here...I wouldn't worry too much about it. The minimum wage is going up too, so we'll all be earning more as well. So in relative terms, it will probably work out the same.
Not if you are retired!
My pension will not be going up by anything like as much as the site fees.
Write your comments here...It should go up if it's index-linked.
Not many have an index linked pension these days, unfortunately.
Mine is partly index linked, so I will get a little extra. Last year that equated to less than 1%. Far less than the % increase in site fees.
Other than possibly for some ex civil servants and public sector workers, the days of full index linking are long gone.
Final salary pensions are also rare, workers now have to make a serious investment in their future if they are to have a comfortable retirement.
Even without the prospect of a decent increase, I'm glad I am already retired!
To get back on topic......let's hope future increases in site fees will be more reasonable.
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Write your comments here...I wouldn't worry too much about it. The minimum wage is going up too, so we'll all be earning more as well. So in relative terms, it will probably work out the same.
Not if you are retired!
My pension will not be going up by anything like as much as the site fees.
Write your comments here...It should go up if it's index-linked.
Not many have an index linked pension these days, unfortunately.
Mine is partly index linked, so I will get a little extra. Last year that equated to less than 1%. Far less than the % increase in site fees.
Other than possibly for some ex civil servants and public sector workers, the days of full index linking are long gone.
Final salary pensions are also rare, workers now have to make a serious investment in their future if they are to have a comfortable retirement.
Even without the prospect of a decent increase, I'm glad I am already retired!
To get back on topic......let's hope future increases in site fees will be more reasonable.
Write your comments here...Yes but I noticed that Rowena commented that the club is still pricing competitively by offering mid week discounts etc. So the pricing may not be quite as bad as you think.
My recent stay at Gatwick Club site cost £14.50 a night for the two of us and that's a full facility site with toilet blocks, laundry facilities etc. That's only 50 pence a night more than you're willing to pay for a site in France, KjellNN and you would save money on the ferry crossing by using club sites here.
Also, it's quite likely that the French sites will increase their fees in 2016 in line with inflation.
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<<<<My recent stay at Gatwick Club site cost £14.50 a night for the two of us and that's a full facility site with toilet blocks, laundry facilities etc. That's only 50 pence a night more than you're willing to pay for a site in France, KjellNN and
you would save money on the ferry crossing by using club sites here.>>>>But comparing a site in France with a site in winter at the end of a runway is like comparing apples with pears. A totally different Kettle of Fish - to mix my metaphors.
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<<<<My recent stay at Gatwick Club site cost £14.50 a night for the two of us and that's a full facility site with toilet blocks, laundry facilities etc. That's only 50 pence a night more than you're willing to pay for a site in France, KjellNN and you would save money on the ferry crossing by using club sites here.>>>>
But comparing a site in France with a site in winter at the end of a runway is like comparing apples with pears. A totally different Kettle of Fish - to mix my metaphors.
Write your comments here...You should read the Meek family story about it, Goldie and watch their video in the story section. They absolutely loved it there. They developed a new hobby of plane spotting! During the weekdays when all the other children were in school, they were the only children there and it was lovely to see the whole family playing ball happily and seeing them ride around on their bikes.
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Sorry Malcolm, I'd have to agree with Goldie. In fact the CC would have to pay me to stay at Gatwick, just a bit too much aviation fuel overhead for my liking. But for avid plane spotters it's probably heaven. I suppose Gatwick is like Cadeside, it has a
big storage area and a limited amount of pitches and can pay it's way through the winter.0 -
But comparing a site in France with a site in winter at the end of a runway is like comparing apples with pears. A totally different Kettle of Fish - to mix my metaphors.
Write your comments here...You should read the Meek family story about it, Goldie and watch their video in the story section. They absolutely loved it there. They developed a new hobby of plane spotting! During the weekdays when all the other children were
in school, they were the only children there and it was lovely to see the whole family playing ball happily and seeing them ride around on their bikes.I don't think the Meek family are actually impartial when it comes to C C sites. I thought it was their "job" to promote them.
As an aside, are children Home Schooled?
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Sorry Malcolm, I'd have to agree with Goldie. In fact the CC would have to pay me to stay at Gatwick, just a bit too much aviation fuel overhead for my liking. But for avid plane spotters it's probably heaven. I suppose Gatwick is like Cadeside, it has a
big storage area and a limited amount of pitches and can pay it's way through the winter.I have to agree with you both too, we only stayed one night as a stopover and that was enough for us.
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My post was not an opinion, it was a statement of fact.
My pension will go up by less than 1%, by what percentage are CC site fees going up?
For Malcolm to say to someone that they should not worry about the increase as the minimum wage is going up is irrelevant, he doesn't even know whether that person is employed or retired.
As PD and BB said, what has us looking at £50k motorhomes a while back got to do with the increase in site fees?
Write your comments here...Yes but the Caravan Club has to pay all its staff more because of the rise in minimum wage and they also have to pay more for cost of maintenance of club sites. How would they fund this without increasing site fees?
I think we are all aware that the leisure industry will face increased costs due to the increase in the minimum wage, but that was not the point you were making to aeromike, and it is that post of yours which I was commenting on.
Many people, including those who are retired, will not benefit from any increase in the minimum wage.
The % increase in site fees in the last few years has far exceeded the % increases in wages, and pensions, that the vast majority of us have had, it's not just this year.
Not everyone who caravans is well off, we should all remember that, no matter our own circumstances.
Write your comments here...Well you could always raise extra funds, KjellNN by taking paying guests on holiday with you, like we did in June 2015!
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Sorry Malcolm, I'd have to agree with Goldie. In fact the CC would have to pay me to stay at Gatwick, just a bit too much aviation fuel overhead for my liking. But for avid plane spotters it's probably heaven. I suppose Gatwick is like Cadeside, it has a
big storage area and a limited amount of pitches and can pay it's way through the winter.Write your comments here...Judging by the number of occupied pitches we saw whilst we were there, brue, Gatwick does seem to be attracting a lot of winter caravanners as well as motorhomers, some of which put up full awnings too! None of them seemed to mind
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But comparing a site in France with a site in winter at the end of a runway is like comparing apples with pears. A totally different Kettle of Fish - to mix my metaphors.
Write your comments here...You should read the Meek family story about it, Goldie and watch their video in the story section. They absolutely loved it there. They developed a new hobby of plane spotting! During the weekdays when all the other children were in school, they were the only children there and it was lovely to see the whole family playing ball happily and seeing them ride around on their bikes.
I don't think the Meek family are actually impartial when it comes to C C sites. I thought it was their "job" to promote them.
As an aside, are children Home Schooled?
Write your comments here...Yes, I think both their parents were teachers and so would know how to manage their education.
Well I guess as we have been staying continuously on Caravan Club sites ever since 9th June 2015, it is likely we will be seeing more of them. They seem a very happy family from what we could see, which doesn't surprise me as caravanning and the outdoors is a great life, so good luck to them!
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Malcolm
I am sure you have your own reasons for living the lifestyle you do but irespective of the price and I can assure you its much cheaper to live abroad I cant think of any circumstance where I would live on those sites and be made to move on every 21 days
at any time of the year let alone January.Write your comments here...I agree, KjellNN, that moving every 21 days can be inconvenient at times but on the other hand, if you don't move, you don't get a change of scene. We've enjoyed our move from Gatwick to Brighton with the added benefit of a lesser
commuting distance to work. I think 3 weeks is long enough to spend in one location. The whole idea of caravanning is that you're mobile and can move to get a change of location and change of scene.0 -
Malcolm, the Meeks have been given a van by one of the manufacturers and will be travelling to Europe with it soon. They'll be promoting the industry and their lifestyle en route. I'm sure Gatwick is full due to the limited number of spaces available in the south both for winter touring, people who are using sites as a work base or transient full time living. At the moment gatwick is relatively cheap, the OP was about general site fees and renovations, in the school holidays this year site fees will be increasingly expensive at many sites.
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Malcolm, the Meeks have been given a van by one of the manufacturers and will be travelling to Europe with it soon. They'll be promoting the industry and their lifestyle en route. I'm sure Gatwick is full due to the limited number of spaces available in the south both for winter touring, people who are using sites as a work base or transient full time living. At the moment gatwick is relatively cheap, the OP was about general site fees and renovations, in the school holidays this year site fees will be increasingly expensive at many sites.
Write your comments here...I remember the time, brue, when people on this forum were doubting that the Meek family were real. Now I have no doubt of the reality of them, having met them in real life. If it is helping them to finance their lifestyle by promoting the industry, I don't blame them for doing so. I'm financing mine through delivering pizzas. Theirs is probably a better way!
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