Tailgate tents are they allowed on club sites?
For example a Kampa Tailgater?
I have an SUV And would love to use it for camping. Any issues with the above kit?
Thanks
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@easyrider Tent boxes are now allowed, but I think for a definite answer you should contact the club with this.
@Rowena might be able to help.
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A friend of mine asked about using his tailgate awning and was told "no". As a direct result, he left the club.
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@easyrider I suspect that you would not be allowed to use that format on a CAMC Site but you would probably be permitted to do so on a Camping and Caravanning Club site.
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The proposal to sleep in the vehicle which was well suited to it, was cited along with the fact that said vehicle needed to have a purpose intended bed and various other bits of fitted furniture. This now seems ludicrous as rooftents have become the latest CAMC approved method of camping 🤷🏻♂️
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@Tinwheeler and @easyrider not defending the club but, and I didn't know this myself, tent boxes have built in beds with a mattress so I assume that's the purpose intended bed part?
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You have a point there @Cornersteady .
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Yes it was explained to me last week by the 'tent-boxers'. The top part just folds out and there's a bed inside. They said if they were just staying one night that's all the have to do and it did just take 5 minutes for that part.
The lower part kept in the car, for eating, sitting…is just an awning attached to the top part. And just like an awning it had to be pegged out so takes longer.
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A young person's method of camping methinks. I’d not relish the idea of climbing a ladder to get 'upstairs'.😂
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@easyrider yes, the C&CC forum closed.
I cannot give you definitive advice on CAMC’s current policy - I’m not even a member. I suggest you email Rowena who will make enquiries on your behalf. communitymanager@camc .com
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@easyrider yes the only way to get an answer is to get in contact with both clubs. On here we can only post what has been stated by the club.
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Says under the Roof Tent section on this link
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/advice-and-training/advice-for-beginners/outfits-we-welcome-on-our-club-campsites/
“Roof top tents are accepted across all of our Club campsites, and can even be used as an extra sleeping space to your caravan or motorhome, as long as they don’t have any gas-powered devices. Tailgate and hitch tents are also welcome”0 -
Well, the times they are a-changing.
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Par for the course, in my experience, unfortunately @easyrider
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Contact the Community Manager as I suggested up page.
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@easyrider +1 for Rowena but also write in as an official complaint.
But haven't you found the answer already in your post from 21st August?
As an aside I wonder why roof tents are not allowed on CLs? Some legal point perhaps?
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I am guessing most roof tenters will need a loo and a shower, and not all CLs provide these? CL owners can stipulate what kind of outfits they want to take as well, based upon what they think will work best for their CL. CS sites tend to allow all sorts of outfits, mainly because they are more used to campers in tents, and most CS sites provide a basic loo and shower?
We saw roof tents on HS pitches/grass pitches at some Club Sites, alongside MH/Caravans. But haven’t seen any tents allowed to pitch up on these areas, all have been in separate “tent” areas. Usually at the furthest point from the loos🤷♀️
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It would be handy if a CL owner of a site with toilets can confirm, or otherwise, whether tent boxes are acceptable on their CL.
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@nelliethehooker it appears to be a global 'ban' by the club. From the FAQs on tent boxes:
Who can stay at a Certificated Location (CL)
Our Certificated Location (CL) network is exclusive to members. The CLs are set up to accommodate up to five caravans, motorhomes or trailer-tents at one time. At present roof tent camping is not permitted at our CLs.
Hence my question upthread about a legal point? As there are rules and laws regarding CL and how they are run and reading the above perhaps it is only for caravans, motorhomes, or trailer tents?
Whether or not a CL owner can override this is unknown, perhaps a CL owner will post as you say.
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@Cornersteady I agree that a statement from a CL owner would be welcome. I will in fact ask the owner of the next CL that we visit, and that has a toilet, if they would allow them. I suspect that they would be accepted on the C&CC equivalent, CS sites, which do allow tents.
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@nelliethehooker yes please ask, although I don't think having a toilet or not makes any difference as not all trailer tents have them and they are allowed?
Actually not all small campervans have toilets?
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I think the difference is that trailer tenters without an on board toilet will have a separate toilet tent or area within the trailer annex for a toilet whereas basic tent boxes don't have that luxury of space.
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Yes but they can and do travel without them and use the site's so I can't see that being the deciding factor? I would think that it must be something to do with the rules/laws regarding CLs, otherwise why a blanket ban on all CLs?
As for space you would be surprised, up top there is the sleeping area that is double the car roof area (it folds out) and below they can fit a tent below attached to the top. I was shown around, well peaked in one at TH.
The one I saw was a two person but there are larger ones too.
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We have stayed on campsites that either don’t have toilets, or the kind of toilets we don’t want to use (portaloo types) with a tent. It’s simple, you just take your own and a toilet tent. Our caravan, being old doesn’t have a built in toilet, so we have always had the Portapotti type that first gave older caravans an onboard loo. Same as a built in, but instead of a micro switch and slide out tank, you un clip the top section from the bottom, and take the bottom section to the CPD point as you do the cassette type. (No more nasty than the cassette type, and a lot less prone to the flush failing, as it’s a simple push flush). You can even get very small versions that many camper vans use, and have tucked away in a cupboard. So it’s perfectly feasible for someone with a roof tent to have one of these, a toilet tent with a portapotti inside, if they so wish.
We have seen roof tents on CS sites, and at many event campsites. They are nothing new, just better designed nowadays, easier to use, more comfort. Much beloved by off road and overland explorers as you take your sleeping accommodation with you, up off the ground away from damp and things that might want to eat you! They have become a niche choice for some, as you don’t need to have a big vehicle with todays options, so after the initial outlay, its a cheap holiday, can be removed from vehicle when not required.
I do find it rather strange that the Club will allow them on Club Sites, even on a standard pitch, but are saying not accepted at CLs. Unless this has come of course from a CL representative group. It’s a growing trend and could provide some CLs with an extra customer option, if they have the sort of suitable CL, and are happy to allow such outfits. CLs seem to operate being able to list the kind of units they want/are suitable to visit, as I know some don’t take caravans, some don’t take MH’s, some limit the size of outfits. So what’s the issue with an outfit that can get virtually anywhere, and can still have all they need if they take a toilet tent? Surely this is a CL owner decision? I do know that CS sites can take 5 caravans/MH/camper units and a further 10 tent units, so maybe this is part of the issue, slightly different certification requirements?
Thule do a big range of such tents, for cars, for 4x4’s, even towbar tents. Plus all accessories.
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@Cornersteady I think that it is only sensible that those units that do not have an inbuilt toilet either use sites with a toilet or have a toilet tent, especially if there are more than one occupant. There was a Tent box on the B'Bridge site which had only a canopy and a windshield at ground level so the guy was using the site's facilities. I have had a word with the owner of the CL that we came to today and he said that he has had a vehicle with a Tent Box staying this year, but he is the type of owner who has his own ideas of how his site operates regardless of what directive he might have had from the CC's HO. He did say that he ignored the site inspector's " persists encouragement" to increase his prices, which contradicts the statement that there are no forces applied when setting site fees.
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Hi @easyrider
Yes, Tailgate Tents are allowed on our Club Campsites.
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