Dynamic pricing to be introduced

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  • joanie
    joanie Club Member Posts: 137
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    edited February 2023 #62

    how true is this dynamic pricing? has the clun confirmed or denied it ?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2023 #63

    Yes, they fit our Aldi machine, that takes Dolce Gusto pods as well, so we can get bargains on both options. £1.99 for 10 pods, they normally retail at around £3.50 for 10, so quite a saving. We buy them in bulk, along with Little’s flavoured jars, so don’t pay postage either. They are always sending us dynamically priced offers. 😁 (Just to stay on topic) TK Maxx is a good source of very nice, a lot cheaper pods as well, all sorts of strength options. Usually around £1.99 for 10.

     

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2023 #64

    It’s already in operation. A fairly popular site that I booked last September for August 23 has already had its prices increased by 4.3%. I assume the amount will depend on popularity, it is already showing low or full for several dates.

  • lagerorwine
    lagerorwine Forum Participant Posts: 310
    edited February 2023 #65

    It won't affect me as I rarely use sites, but that may change if they opt for last minute discounts to fill sites.

    If only they had a dynamic website to match

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,936
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    edited February 2023 #67

    More often the latter than the former when I want to view it!!😁

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2023 #68

    Bump.....I wonder why the OP is listed as the last posting, as there has been no "Contents removed" notification, which usually results in that!

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2023 #69

    Nellie

    What I can see but you can't is that a member new to the forum has made posts. Being new they have to have their initial post approved by Admin (not mods), this can take a day or two. So hopefully if Keeef can see this it will also explain why his posts are not appearing automatically. I am sure this is mentioned somewhere in the T&C's?

    David

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,936
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    edited February 2023 #70

    Thanks David. I wish that new member's post were approved more quickly, and that they are given notification for the delays in their posts not appearing. I rather fancy that some of those new members have just given up continuing with CT when they can't find their posts or responses to queries they have made.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2023 #71

    A new poster sees a banner saying their posts need approval which will be done when they’ve made 3(?) posts. However, that’s not the case and we often see posts making their first appearance 4-6 weeks after they’ve been written. Welcome to CT, eh? 🙁

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2023 #72

    They, HO, seem just to keep making things harder for new members to CT. You would think that they would want to encourage new member's by making posting simple, but the opposite seems to be the case. Is it any wonder that we see so few new names posting often?!!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2023 #73

    I said something very similar to Rowena when she reactivated my login. 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2023 #74

    Nellie

    If I see such posts are more that a few days old I usually report them just as a reminder they need approving. Doesn't mean that I can't miss the odd one.

    David

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  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2023 #76

    Well done, It's good that someone is trying to help new posters, David, but HO do need to be more on the ball, and not be relying on Mods to get thing moving along. 

  • flatcoat
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    edited February 2023 #77

    I understand the concept and why some companies use dynamic pricing. In Germany it applies to petrol/diesel on an almost hourly basis. However, for the ‘Club’ to go down that route is a step too far for me and I am disappointed this has only come to light via regular visiting if this forum. I may have missed it however where is the member notification? 

  • joanie
    joanie Club Member Posts: 137
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    edited February 2023 #78

    Its called flexible pricing and is already in place.

    As part of the new project to improve the booking experience for members, the existing booking systems are being replaced. The new systems allow the Club to offer more flexible prices to members - in future this will allow the Club to potentially set lower annual price increases than it currently does to pitch, adult and child prices; and allows prices to increase by a small amount where booking volumes are higher than expected, or, for later bookings. The Club’s also introducing deposits and new cancellation terms which will free up availability by reducing cancellation volumes, so that you find it easier booking a pitch at a site and on a date that suits you.

    This new flexible approach to pricing combines with other key elements of the project - the introduction of deposits, the new interactive map on the Club’s website, a new mobile App, a faster check-in process and greater choice of bookable pitch types - to provide better value for members and a better booking experience.

    These positive changes will help more members find more available pitches which in turn provides a little more revenue for reinvestment back into improving the UK Club campsite network, for the benefit of members staying on our sites. (For context, during 2022 the Club’s investing over twenty million pounds in maintaining and improving the campsite network, with developments taking place across the network.)

    With the new improved booking system, pitch fees will be slightly lower for early bookings and slightly higher for bookings placed closer to the date of arrival.

    I hope this helps.


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  • peedee
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    edited February 2023 #79

    Thanks for the input J but I hope you are also keeping an eye on what commercial sites are doing. One I use regularly has just dropped its low season price for hardstanding electric pitches by £4 p.n. plus is offering 33 percent discount for 2 nights or more in March.

    peedee

  • rodder
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    edited February 2023 #80

    Dynamic! whats dynamic about updating a booking made last year to a cheaper grass pitch as it was 'automatically' put on a hardstanding pitch (when the system changed over) and being asked to pay an extra 5 pounds a night.

    Also, the theory of dynamic pricing is to offer a discount for late bookings (rather than have empty pitches). I'd certainly encourage the club to embrace this !

  • paulmold
    paulmold Club Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2023 #81

    Dynamic booking could also mean 'you've left it late to book so we put price up because you'll be desperate and pay whatever it costs to get a pitch.'  I'd hope it would mean,' we have only a couple up of pitches left for tomorrow so we would like to fill them by offering them at half price'  

  • brue
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    edited February 2023 #82

    The club have already said last minute prices will increase rather than decrease. If the only available pitch is a fully serviced one it won't be cheap.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2023 #83

    I’ve just been looking at York. £37+ per night to stay early March for us at YRP. Had a look on S4S and I can get £25 per night on a Site rated very highly with all facilities nearby. Or £22 per night adjacent to Cycleway into York on CCC listed site, that’s with a discount for three nights. (Don’t need to be a CCC member either) I shall be making a dynamically priced decision if we choose to go to York🤣

    (Not interested in Beechwood Grange. It’s not dog friendly and too close to roar of A64 for us)

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2023 #84

    I think CAMC is planting the suggestion in your heads that prices will definitely increase near the date. The actual words used by a CAMC member of staff were "the closer to the time of arrival the booking is made, the higher the price may be". Note the use of the word "may".

    At this stage CAMC cannot possibly know in which direction prices will go as it depends on take up of pitches. If there is high demand then, yes, prices will probably go up but if demand is low, you might see prices coming down. The whole concept of DP is the seller reacting to market forces and that can rarely be foreseen very far in advance so it is unlikely that an increase in prices nearer the date is a certainty. It's a possibility or even a probability but not a certainty.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2023 #85

    "Not interested in Beechwood Grange. It’s not dog friendly and too close to roar of A64 for us)"

    since when, we used this site i think last year when we visited my sister, pretty sure it was dog friendly with a very good dog walking area, yes it was very expensive, it does have very new and very nice facilities. The only restrictions on dogs was that you cannot walk them out of the site, this restriction is in place due to the race horse stables which are next door and i guess is to protect the stables from any types of disese your dog may be carrying.

    p.s. A64 was not a problem

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2023 #86

    If there is high demand then, yes, prices will probably go up


    I just had a look at Baltic Wharf now showing low availability for our booking in March, which was made in December when they extended the lease. If you booked today the price has increased 4.9% on our booking.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2023 #87

    That's it. High demand = high prices.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2023 #88

    Since we decided🤣 We give our pooch a decent walk at least twice a day, and a 100 metre field doesn’t cut the mustard with us, even though he’s 13 and shaky on his legs, he needs a proper walk. Fine for a late night pop out, but we need more with a Labrador. A well walked dog is a quiet dog, it’s how we always do things.

    Living fairly local, I have endured many hold ups on the A64, particularly at that roundabout, so given the price as well, it’s not in consideration.

    Tinny has hit the nail on the head around pricing, and of course the Club can’t really say if they might drop prices for last minute late take up. It won’t happen at all sites, some will still be popular. Meantime, we simply exercise our options, seeking value for money we are happy with😉

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2023 #89

    "Since we decided🤣 We give our pooch a decent walk at least twice a day, and a 100 metre field doesn’t cut the mustard with us, even though he’s 13 and shaky on his legs, he needs a proper walk. Fine for a late night pop out, but we need more with a Labrador. A well walked dog is a quiet dog, it’s how we always do things."

    but site dog walks are there for that early morning walk, and last evening pee, who would want to sit on a club site all day long, not us, we go out for the day and take the dog laughing, not sure where you got the idea of 100 metre field, i seem to recall that it was a very nice wooded area, but i could be wrong, have you ever visited the site ???

    p.s. sorry this is a bit of piste, but if we are discussing pricing i think it is important that sites are portrayed for what they offer and not for something that people think they offer..

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2023 #90

    " Living fairly local, I have endured many hold ups on the A64, particularly at that roundabout, so given the price as well, it’s not in consideration."

    but the site is a considerable distance from the roundabout, we stayed for 1 week and had no problems getting in and out of the site even with the caravan in tow, and noise was not a problem, again , if you have not visited the site then i think you are writing reviews that are not factual, yes it is expensive but it is well positioned for visits into the centre of York which i am sure many folk use it for.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2023 #91

    Well, I’ve visited the site and taking one's dog off site involves use of a car or MH which is restrictive. I thought you’d realise that if you’ve stayed there, Rufs. 

    I had no issue with the site itself or its dog walk but did find it awkward always having to use transport to get off site. I don’t think it's a restriction put in place by CAMC but by the adjacent stable owner.