Autumn Watch 2023 - cancelled

ABM
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edited February 2023 in Wildlife, Nature & the Great Outdoors #1

Not only is Chris Packham taking a break from  his T.V. exposure, but the BBC has decided to cancell Autumnwatch and halve the length of Winterwatch 2024 ! in the latest Ratings Row. 

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2023 #2

    I have always been a staunch supporter of the BBC but some of the decisions it has made recently have got me starting to doubt that loyalty. We used to have our own local news from a studio in in Cambridge but that has been gone back to Norwich and our region hardly gets a mention now!

    David

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #3

    Best decision to get rid of this canned programme and the eco warriors and air mile squanderers

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    edited February 2023 #4
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  • DEBSC
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    edited February 2023 #5

    Not too much wrong with the programme, they just need new presenters. We have stopped watching it, I find the woman on it really annoying.

  • brue
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    edited February 2023 #6

    We don't watch it either, possibly the two remaining programmes will be enough for those who enjoy it. I always found it too "set up " I find the BBC get obsessed with certain things but maybe I'm on news overload. frown 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2023 #7

    I'm finding BBC News has declined. Too much padding about "Deirdre who has swum the length of the Serpentine for a transgender dog charity" or some such. I'm often tending to dip into Sky or Al Jazeera now.

  • ABM
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    edited February 2023 #8

    CY,  I think I should take a hot strong pot of tea and some Ginger Nuts until I get the 'transgender dog charity' out of my mind  surprised. If I don't I can forsee a bad nightmare or three coming my way yell

  • ABM
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    edited February 2023 #9

    P.S.  ~~ And I did mean I should have the tea and bikkies == twas not meant to be a suggestion for your good self, CY,  honest  embarassed

  • HelenandTrevor
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    edited February 2023 #11

    Big fan of all the " watches" and will miss Autumn  Watch. Think the BBC have made some bad decisions recently.

    We too have lost of local news program from Oxford, to be replaced with news from Southampton 🥺

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2023 #12

    The problem is they now film in an area where public access is very restricted.  When they filmed at Minsmere it was fascinating to watch the camera people at work and they would, wherever possible engage with the public.  

    I just have no trust in BBC news and haven’t watched it for years, most of my news comes from the internet 

  • Tirril
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    edited February 2023 #13

    Such a pity that a good programme is ruined by the tiresome due presenters, too full of themselves and treat the audience like we were at a children's play school. I always fast forward to the sensible input by Iolo.

  • ABM
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    edited February 2023 #14

    Certainly I like Iolo but don't forget the occasional input from Gordon Buchanan MBE,  utterly superb to see his work on tv yesterday -- stroking a wolf indeed  surprised

  • Fisherman
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    edited February 2023 #15

    The last two of course ant woke so dont get the full support if the BBC

  • ABM
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    edited February 2023 #16

    And, according to the BBC's own admission there will be a major change across their international news programmes.  This will be watched with baited [!! sealed sealed !!] breath 

  • richardandros
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    edited February 2023 #17

    I won't watch anything in which Chris Packham appears - as a matter of principle.  I shan't miss it - or him!

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2023 #19

    I struggle to condemn a person who cares deeply for wildlife R&R, trying to disrupt a hunt is not really bad in my book. Throwing rocks thru windows yes, fire bombing cars yes but not disruption. I thought it may have been something really bad🤷🏻‍♂️ 

  • richardandros
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    edited February 2023 #20

    That isn’t the debate Rocky - the rights and wrongs of hunts are an entirely separate issue. My point is that CP openly associated himself with what were clearly criminal acts - as decided by a court of law and that it is inappropriate for the BBC to condone this by continuing to allow him to present their programme.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2023 #21

    I see what you are saying R&R, I checked out the countryside alliance site you made available(thank you) then did further research to find there have been literally hundreds of CA members who have not only been to court but actually jailed for violence against the person, animals & homes of those saboteur's. I will honestly say-anyone engaging in law breaking is not someone worthy of promotion to any job.

  • peedee
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    edited February 2023 #22

    Euro News for me as well as Sky News. The former is much more wide ranging than BBC or ITV and while SKY is not so well padded as BBC News, it is a bit more in depth.

    Many of the best presenters have left or are leaving BBC, perhaps the rot also applies to the backroom staff as well?

    peedee

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2023 #23

    There is a fundamental issue here rated to the validity and underpinning rational behind any particular law. There are a many examples of how some laws have only been changed or been reversed for the better through public action and protest. Any attempt to endanger the lives of others is, of course, reprehensible but I don’t read of any such actions being attributed to the presenter in question who quite honestly is under attack from certain unsavoury folk who are propagating falsehoods and fake news for their own selfish ends.  

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2023 #24

    We are now hearing of folk deliberately attempting the disgraceful in defending their own unsubstantiated and awful claims which have misled, agitated and fuelled a vocal and violent conspiratorial fringe who increasingly post threatening and vile material about him (Chris Packham) and his family.

    Those making these claims have no other interest at all but to ridicule, tarnish, remove him from presenting The Watches and destroy the good work he does. Dreadful.

     

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2023 #25

    Attention seeker. Did you read the other day about the making of the next canned programme. Apparently they caught a badger ( how many laws did they break) and put a tracker on him. Then unfortunately they ran over it with their  gas guzzling 4 x 4. What a shame. That was my earlier post Deleted User. Probably same fate for this one!!

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2023 #26

    Sad that this appears as described the truth is the intention was totally legal and honourable. Like the unfortunate hobby episode there was no malice or ill intention. Despite such occasional unfortunate occurrence bullies must not be allowed to win and they must not be allowed to spread their untruths. Iolo explains the need to do legitimate research and sometimes, with the very best intentions things can go wrong. No reason to stop learning more and helping wildlife.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2023 #27

    Just shows how artificial these  programmes are.. The presenters just read an autocue and it seems odd they have to fly one in from South Africa. Talk about saving the planet.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2023 #28

    You mentioned that before, Fish, and I’ve yet to see you name him/her despite being asked. You seem a tad repetitive of late.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2023 #29

    Mention a name and your post gets Deleted User.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2023 #30

    I think it’s the adjectives you use, not the names themselves.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2023 #31

    Whatever. The postings is about the programme .I am just pointing out how artificial these programmes are whilst  for huge number of people these are their only information about wildlife. Presented of course by totally biased people and with the huge Air miles just shows how  hypocritical they are. In the end hard cash always triumphs over your  beliefs. 

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