Am I an outdated fuddy duddy?

GrahamCraik
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edited January 2023 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Good afternoon Campers. 

I have been camping in tents, a caravan and more recently a campervan for the last 50 years. I was taught and have always believed that it is rude to walk across or through other people's pitches. This weekend, we are staying at Henley Four Oaks and we have recently stayed at Cirencester, Tewkesbury and Moreton-in-Marsh.

I am somewhat saddened that in all cases, people have walked right through our pitches, within feet of our van, to take a shortcut to wherever they are off to. 

 People are close enough to peer in through our windows. 

Am I right in thinking this is rude and inconsiderate behaviour? Or am I just being old-fashioned in these enlightened times? 

 

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  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited January 2023 #2

    People like to take the shortest route. If the gap was wide enough to get a car through they would do it in the car.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #3

    It’s been discussed many times, Graham. Check site rule 3f.

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/uk-holidays/uk-sites/club-campsites/club-site-rules/

     

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2023 #4

    Graham, it appears to me that the Brits have lost our hard earned reputation for many courtesies in very recent years. Had several trips to Europe recently and I’m ashamed to say that many over there are far more respectful in their social behaviours. What has gone wrong? Tinny has directed you to a thread but this crops up regularly as an observation in other forums too. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #5

    No you are certainly right! It is rude, inconsiderate and more!

    This has been discussed many times and it keeps on happening and whatever the reason it is not unacceptable. If I recall correctly the club does give guidance on this but it's either not read or just ignored.

    I think the best way is to have to politely ask them not to do it or even have a word with the wardens.

    Post edit: see TW's post up above.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #6

    I linked to the site rules, Micky, not a thread🙂

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2023 #8

    Indeed you did, Tinny!👍

    Seems to me that ‘rules’ achieve little these days!☹️

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #9

    No rule is worth the paper it’s written on if it’s unenforceable 🙁

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2023 #10

    It’s just a great shame that ‘we’ have lost the ability to apply the rules to our ‘own’ behaviours without the need for enforcement.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2023 #11

    Some are irritated by it, some aren’t -but it’s the design and layout of some sites which lead to it happening. You might be happier if you pitched at the site perimeter rather than the centre -  or chose a different style of site altogether.

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2023 #12

    You could follow the perpetrators back to their pitch and walk across theirs , or just chill as your only on holiday there for a few days cool

     

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #14

    but it’s the design and layout of some sites which lead to it happening

    That is just not true, the design and layout has nothing to do with it. Anymore than cars having the ability to go past a speed limit causes speeding.

    It is happening because won't respect the rules and their fellow campers and/or if those rules are not enforced or the behaviour is not challenged.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2023 #15

    I think that's the idea of being on holiday the chance to chill out but it perhaps gets difficult  for the OP to do that with people walking on your pitch?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2023 #16

    I have no issues with cutting across pitches. I don’t think you are rude just living in the past. I’d love to buy beer at 1970’s prices but life changes with the years. You rent your space for x days & that is it. By getting stressed you are taking away from your own holiday/break. I’ve met folk & talked quite a while as they cut thru the pitch I was renting it has happened many many times too🤷🏻‍♂️

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2023 #17

    +1 cool

  • TimboC
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    edited January 2023 #18

    You're right Graham, and I'm on your side 

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #19

    If I wanted to talk to someone, as folk have done to us, enquiring about our RV, what we think of it etc. I would go an introduce myself to them, as they have done to us. Not just cut across their pitch because it is a shorter route to the facilities. That’s just plain rude.

  • InaD
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    edited January 2023 #20

    I think the design and layout DO sometimes contribute to people cutting across a pitch.  We've been on a pitch at Hawes, many years ago, where there were another couple of pitches diagonally behind ours. Rather than walking on the site road, the people on one of those pitchess just cut diagonally across from their pitch, across the grass, and onto ours, to then walk along the raod to where they were going.  It must have saved then a few yards and a few seconds undecided And there are other CAMC sites I can think of where I've seen people walk from their pitch across others, en route to the toiletblock, Wharfedale for one.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2023 #21

    They weren’t introducing themselves I talked to them. My initial thought re CAMC members was-aloof, stiff & antisocial so I talked to them(on my pitch) some continued availing themselves of the shortcut without interaction but most relaxed👍🏻. If we all maintained your attitude life would be void of new experiences & friends🤷🏻‍♂️. In Yorkshire everyone is a friend until they prove otherwise.

  • PJMEG
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    edited January 2023 #22

    I do believe that you are not a fuddy duddy as it is a big bug bear of ours no matter where you pitch people should respect your space.

    How would people feel if a stranger walked through their garden or driveway to reach the front door of their property, not so happy I'm guessing. 🤔 

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #23

    Well I don’t live or come from Yorkshire and my preference is that folk should avoid cutting across my pitch to use the facilities. You clearly think differently, so if it’s your pitch they are cutting across that’s fine.

  • PJMEG
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    edited January 2023 #24

    Sorry to Rocky 2 buckets as a fellow Yorkshire man I have to agree with SteveL, I have paid for that little piece of ground and I do not want people just walking through it without good reason.

    Just a case of simple curtious manners needed whilst away from all.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #25

    I think folk are allowed have different opinions and it sounds to me as if East Yorkshire wins on friendliness and a laid back approach. 🤝

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2023 #26

    Wezzies border Lancashire Tinny so they are bound to be the least Tyke of all the white Rose counties😂😂

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2023 #27

    Friendliness doesn’t really come into it. That wide area alongside our MH has an EHU cable and often a TV cable going across it, both of which can be tipped over and damaged, particularly in the dark. Plus if on a service pitch there is a colapz tube to the drain, not easily seen as grey and although resilient in most directions, it does not like being stood on by a size 11. 

  • TimboC
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    edited January 2023 #28

    Its got nothing to do with friendliness or unfriendlyness. Whether you're from Yorkshire or any other part of the country. Its about having a bit of privacy on your own pitch.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2023 #30

    I once saw somebody take a short cut through another's awning and I had someone trip over my caravan step. Now those true examples are showing folk acting totally inappropriately but they are a far cry form someone walking over the edge of a pitch for what may be a very good reason. I don't think a blanket anti attitude to all pitch crossers is a reasonable one.

  • TimboC
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    edited January 2023 #31

    From the Clubs site rules;

     

    f. Guests are asked to respect other guests' privacy at all times. For example, do not cut across or behind occupied pitches.