Website downtime

Tinwheeler
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edited September 2022 in How to use Club Together #1

No advance notice and no note of explanation or apology have been given for taking the site down for around 24 hours. I'm saddened at the ignorance displayed. Not shocked because, sadly, it’s what I’ve come to expect from CAMC these days. The lack of courtesy is nothing less than appalling and is symptomatic of CAMC's attitude towards its customers/members.

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited September 2022 #2

    Have they been dong this?

    had a couple of goes at a dummy booking but it crashed both times. Couldn't observe if the process was a true 'experience' or not.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #3

    As the Book a Campsite page won’t load, I have no idea.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #4

    Absolutely disgraceful, indefensible, but sadly not a surpriseundecided

    I'd post more but on my travels. 

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2022 #6

    Been trying to change a booking but no chance.  After 5 years of constant ‘maintenance’ the site is still not fit for purpose

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #7

    Can't book a European site now...👎

  • DaveCyn
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    edited September 2022 #11

    It's got even slower!

    Used to be steam powered now it's down to a poor mouse running around an exercise wheel to run it!

    Never known a site as bad as this! If it's the best the IT department can do I suggest you get a new team pronto!

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #12

    Having converted existing bookings to the new format and committed to implementing the new software, it's now very difficult for the club to reverse back to the previous state...so, that leaves us with fixing this 'moving forward'...

    unless the crashes I've seen are due to something simple, building fixes and testing them will have to be done in a development area with, probably, this new live system halted...not a good situation as no new bookings, for here or overseas, will be able to be made.

    not a good place to be and requires an 'all hands to the pump' war room situation.

    this will either be a simple fix (hopefully) or a right pain.

    I can't believe that no one (from CAMC management/IT) has actually made a 'test' booking (or five) in the new live environment following cutover and prior to the release to us 'real' customers.

  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #13

    I agree with TW, It is disgraceful the Club didn't advise members about such a long downtime. I hope the site managers were better informed.

    My comms is not good so not sure if it is because of this or whether it's down to the Club that the new UK booking system is so prone to errors.

    peedee

  • SuffolkCarr
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    edited September 2022 #14

    Looks like the introduction of the new booking system has broken the website.  Joined the new queueing system (1074th, estimated 1min wait), then once 'in' it wouldn't open the booking pages.  eventually timed-out (after 10mins), so try again and I'm 3191st in queue wuth est. 12min wait.  Very frustrated.  Very poorly thought out 'upgrade', obviously not bug-tested before implementation. 

  • harryb
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    edited September 2022 #15

    I totally agree word for word. There is no respect for this forum.

    I've had enough. Will be standing down from the website. hope to return one day.

    Edit. As I have no intention of using club sites The new web site is of no use to me.

  • peedee
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    edited September 2022 #16

    The queues could be down to many checking out the new system

    peedee

  • brue
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    edited September 2022 #17

    Over 2000 in the queue Peedee so best not to try it unless a booking is essential. Good to see the new system is under way, obviously the site had to be suspended to get this up and running. 

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #18

    What queue? Couldn't get that far🤷🏻‍♂️

  • brue
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    edited September 2022 #19

    It could be the device you are using?

    I'm off now, glad CT is back on line. smile

  • InaD
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    edited September 2022 #20

    Totally agree TW; yet again i had an email about the impending change, but no word within that email of the fact that the site would be down.  Why could that information not have been part of the email?  Saying that, of course the email was only sent to people with bookings (we have 2), so people without still wouldn't have known.  But surely it would have been possible to put the info on the website a few days prior anyway?

    BTW, still queuing, although don't quite understand the maths: number in queue is 5778, yet there are 1790 users in front of me?

    Your queue number: 5778
    Number of users in queue ahead of you: 1790
    Expected arrival time on the website: 21:43
    Your estimated wait time is: 13 minutes

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2022 #21

    Did the club run a trial of this version, were any club members allowed to use it as a beta version before releasing to tens of thousands of club members?

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2022 #22

    Now a server error occurred.

    did the club employ Ferrari strategists to change the system

  • Metheven
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    edited September 2022 #23

    What a bunch of amateurs, there should be red faces all round but their arrogance towards its members will top that for sure. The only quality thing about the website is the photo used when the sites down.

  • Pathfinder
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    edited September 2022 #24

    100% in agreement 

    If members were to not renew membership in their droves it is no more than club deserves 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited September 2022 #25

    I couldn't get on at all last night.

    Today has taken awhile very slow. 

    I have one booking and no need to make any others, so won't bother trying to have a look as it would just add to the log jam for others. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited September 2022 #26

    Well, another 15 hours or so of downtime.  I can add nothing more to my OP to demonstrate how appalled I feel.

    I read elsewhere of people expressing similar sentiments and looking for sites outwith this club.

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2022 #27

    On the brink of a sense of humour failure after an hour trying to amend a booking by 1 day, thought amended booking was complete then I had an error message.  
    Rang the club, 25 minute queue, to find change had been made but confirmation not sent.  With the booking system 5 days ago i it would have taken about 2 minutes to achieve!  The price of progress, shuffling along in a queue.  Won’t be making anymore club site bookings

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #28

    Managed to get on the booking website last night after about 30 minutes. There seemed to be conflicting information. On one page it said you could book until the end of May but dates were available as far as November. I was wanting to extend a booking at the end of May into June. Anyway it threw up an error and crashed.
    Have tried again today but first queue wait was over an hour and as we went out I missed my slot. Currently it says 19 minutes, although it said 24 minutes some 15 minutes ago. I don’t think the queue is all that accurate. 
    It is really beyond belief that they released a new system in such a state of disrepair.

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #29

    Still in the queue, still supposedly 10 minutes to go, which is likely to be at least another 20. In total that will work out at 1 hour 20 minutes, although it initially told me 24 minutes. They really need to be able to handle more traffic with this new system, otherwise folk are going to go elsewhere. 

    edit forget the 1 hour 20 the clock is now adding time and is back at 18 minutes. 😡

  • DaveCyn
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    edited September 2022 #30

    How much longer do we have to put up with this sad excuse for a website? Seems to spend more time in maintenance than my car and that's 21 years old!

    Surely the membership deserve better! Stop taking us for fools and sort it out!!

    If the current IT crew can't do it then get someone who can!

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited September 2022 #31

    Was it not inevitable that during the set up of the new booking system and the initial use, probable as Peedee suggested by members curiosity, that the site would crash, I think we have history here! As to the long shut down and not being informed I wonder if this is due to all the IT being contracted out with the company doing the work having different priorities rather than keeping members informed? Of course they should have let us know but as in many instances in the past they did not, there seems no protocol in place to keep us inform in advance. There did seem to be regular, if brief, updates on Twitter.

    David