Simple Automation at its Best

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2022 #2

     ... 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

    You're not suggesting some kind of change!!!!!!!!!!! 😉😉

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited September 2022 #3

    They have that for the Forestry England sites. Seamless👍🏻

  • Tammygirl
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    edited September 2022 #4

     Brilliant aren't they. 

    The 5€ for 5 hours is good if you fancy a look around a city/town but want to then move on again a bit further to spend the night elsewhere.

    Could this be a solution to some of the non facility sites? 

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  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #7

    Some even work for caravans and tents in the season. They have quite a few Mon Village sites that have toilets and showers, but in all other ways operate as standard CCP sites. They are normally old municipal sites that would have otherwise closed,  (They are no different to us re local authority cost saving) but have been able to continue under the CCP banner / automation. We stopped on two last June, they were good, one exceptionally so.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #8

    I take it that a record of who is on site and where they are pitched in case of emergency is also given ,?tongue-out

    One of the main reasons your pitch number is made avaliable to site staffsurprised

  • MikeyA
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    edited September 2022 #9

    Automation gives you 24 hr knowlege and not day time only.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #10

    ????undecided

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #11

    When the Club 'fanfared' it's name change to 'and Motorhome' Club, this was the seismic change we should have had to reflect the burgeoning MH ownership increase....the introduction of cheap to run, cheap to use, easy to book (if required) or drop in system for those who don't need a full blown site...a fairly typical situation abroad with an 'aire' type facility right outside a full fat site...run by the same management.

    the two tier time slot mentioned (5 hr or 24hr) would satisfy the 'quick look' passers by and those who wish to make use of the services..the ,5 hr fee set to a fair level (say £7) and then the 24hr one perhaps a little higher than in France at, say £15.

    However, what did we get with the (expensive) rebranding?.....the Caravan Club with the occasional drive over waste to 'satisfy' those pesky motorhomers.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #12

    It seems from much use of this clubs sites ,that the "must have" motor caravan is being used by many as a caravan without a tow vehicle,and not moving from arrival to departure,so as much as you wished for with the name change has not materialised with what  most owners have neededwinksurprised

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #13

    This might be because what many touring MHers want isn't available at CAMC...

    what you're seeing is CAMC caravanners who've bought a MH, probably a Bailey, so it's just the same as their caravan. As with the rebrand, no change there...

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #14

    As being actually sites on club sites, and as others have said on here, often the MHs are in greater numbers than caravans so I don't think what you've posted is true on both counts, also on quite a number of occasions this year MH have outnumbered caravans on service pitches too BB.

    So it depends on what you mean by touring Mhers ?

    If it's those that tour and want to use a site as a base at night then the club is doing very well indeed and certainly they are well catered, why should the club change its very successful model?

    For those that want to go off grid or want simpler sites  then the club isn't for them and they'll find alternative sites to suit. Remember no one is forced to use a club site, and they only account for les than 10% of sites nationally so plenty of choice and that choice should be kept rather than all the same?

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #15

    One scenario.
    If we left for the day with our MH the pitch would have to be physically inspected to know this was the case. On a CCP site the system knows.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #16

    On the majority of sites you are asked to put a marker on your pitch to say an LV is using this pitch

    Are you saying it would not require that if using the automated. system?

    Or would it just tell that there are vacant pitches?

  • SteveL
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    It would tell them you had left the site. They wouldn’t know if you were coming back again. However your account is kept open (in case you do) until the start of the next 24 hour charge period, when it is closed. Or if you enter another  CCP site within that time, the previous one is closed and the new site account opened.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #20

    Oh right, it doesn't ask in some way you if you're leaving for good then within that 24 hours ?

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #21

    Similar to how the ANPR scheme this club is trialing at Clachan then

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #23

    I did before and it offers no advantages over prepayment, ANPR admission and letting the office know by text what pitch you're on, that the club is going to trial. One disadvantage is that you have to buy a card before loading it with funds through another system which is extra cost and extra time. My cards are always preloaded, actually automatically each month.

    It also has another disadvantage that you may not get the same pitch each time you leave and come back unless marked. Often on many sites in the UK and abroad of course do have this feature although you are advised to leave a sign it is not really necessary as the system will know who is on that pitch.

    I only asked for clarification as another posted, can't remember who,  said that this system asked you if you were leaving for good after each departure, now you've said that is not the case and you can come back before your time is up but maybe onto a different pitch. Thanks for answering that.

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #25

    Yes of course, try booking a site any day of the week, try now for today for example to see if pitches are available?  If I take the last pitch it would show as such for the next person trying to book. Actually happened to me once as well.

    There you go full at Melrose, but pitches at White water park, taken just now.

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2022 #26

    What the 'other poster' said was in response to someone else (an-other poster) who asked how the system would know if a van had left 'for good'.

    That response was that it wouldn't be difficult to achieve and an intelligent bollard could ask the question as with a self service till etc.

    however, as reported, the CCP system doesn't ask that question, it merely leaves the account open for 24hrs.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2022 #27

    It may well do when and if it is rolled out nation wide wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #28

    No BB I distinctly remember the other poster saying that the system would ask if you were leaving for good and charge you straight away or if you were returning. I remember because I asked if the system was voice activated. Perhaps the other poster, hadn't used that system before or in a while? Still no matter it's all clear now.

    PS I've just done a screenshot from the thread of what was actually said if you need reminding, as it does look like the other poster had not used that system and it did make it sound as if it did actually ask you, not would, how actually how it did?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #29

    quoting myself here but one can still book available pitches after 5pm!

  • SteveL
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    edited September 2022 #30

    Don’t try arriving at 8:30 pm (or am) without a booking and expect the CAMC system to let you in though. 😉 The CCP will, if there is room of course.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited September 2022 #31

    Of course but that's due to the opening times of the club sites, nothing to do with the actual automated system that the CCP uses? If the system were introduced on club sites you'd still have those opening times? 

    I do think it's a great system for that style of touring abroad (and in the UK) but doesn't offer any advantages for club sites where, as I said, ANPR, pre arrival payment and txt/app the office/system will do totally as well, wouldn't it?

    As it would for most UK sites that operate on a arrive at ... and leave by ... so it will interesting when other non club (traditional if you like) sites go for. I'm not sure why one needs to buy a card over here?