Dog toileting

Skoula
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edited May 2022 in Your Pets #1

Looking for some advice, we are booked into a Club Site in a few weeks time with our dogs. I have just read a review that says dog toileting isnt allowed on the site which is fair enough. However I am wondering how to stop the dogs toileting during the walk from the motorhome to the outside of the site. Feeling stressed......

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #2

    Its called training ask any guide dog ownercool

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #3

    Short lead, walk briskly, keep the dogs close so they can't wander onto grass or start sniffing. Isn't that a fundamental of dog training?

    If an accident does happen - clean it up.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #5

    You are correct, DD, it's neither right nor responsible. A well trained dog is a delight but a poorly trained one can be a pain through no fault of its own.

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #7

    If some dog owners, as it seems, use them as "status symbols" that are there for the owners convenience ,rather than for the dogs,well beingyell

    The  ccc site  we have just returned from did not have a dog walk ,on site ,which was a problem for some dog owners as it was a very spread out site with 177pitchessurprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #8

    In that case, it’s the owners who need the training.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited April 2022 #9

    I would say if the site isn’t suitable for your dogs, go somewhere that is. 

  • moulesy
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    Which site is it? You might be able to find a pitch fairly near the entrance which would help, but I agree with SB, you might find it a more relaxing experience to go to a different site nearby, maybe a CL. If you tell us the site I'm sure someone  an come up with a suggested alternative. 🐕🐕

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #11

    Head for where it is allowed on site walking briskly, no stopping, no sniffing and on a short lead.  If an accident happens, and they will be few and far between if doing above it will be on road not grass or pitches and easier to pick up. That’s what a well trained dog will expect.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #12

    Both this club and the ccc sites it is requested to keep your dog on a lead no longer than 2mtrs laughing

    How many  dog owners does one see abiding to that requirement  undecided

    Also how many see dog owners allowing their dogs to pee on temporary posts that the site staff put out, then take in on seasonal sites and my need to be moved during the seasonyell

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #13

    Yes, I’ve also witnessed wardens working on flowerbeds, planters and shrubs where dogs have just peed up. Not nice and not necessary.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2022 #14

    Some Sites have a dog walk adjacent, some Sites are close to a decent dog walk just off site. A look at the Site plan, and an OS map will give a good indication of what to expect. Allowing a dog to deliberately foul a pitching area is what isn’t allowed, for the comfort and hygiene of all visitors. Short lead, brisk walk and anticipating your dogs needs should make sure your staying goes well.

    Any pooch owner who doesn’t act responsibly, (outside of an emergency) is letting all dog owners down, and such behaviour comes back to bite us all one way or another.

    Most Club Sites are very good pooch wise, it’s only the odd one that doesn’t have at least a small walk close by.

  • frabro
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    Its really nice to read a post from a dog owner that wants to follow the rules, I applaud you.  Regrettably you seem to be a rare breed.  I doubt if 1% from my observation follow the 2 metre maximum lead length rule and on open sites there seems to  a growing band of owners that think the rules only apply to others and don't have their dogs on leads of any length. Now when we go  walk round the site for a bit of fresh air we stick to the site roads and paths , the majority of dog owners  taking their pets to the dog walk area take the most direct route  across the grass areas between pitches  and sometimes across pitches. I had a chap yesterday take his three dogs between my car and the van next door where we were sitting on the grassed area chatting to our neighbours  so was about a foot away from us. Then  there's enforcement , wardens just don't do it and when i ask why they say if they did they would do little else and its more trouble than its worth  and  they would get grief and abuse   Its a mystery  and yes I'm not a dog owner although we had dogs for many years. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2022 #16

    I have never had that sort of remark from a member of the site staff ?

    Normally it is more like "if we are around members are not misbehaving",  but ,cannot understand why members complain when they are leaving site in the comments book with no name or membership number or more frequently on social media forums 

  • SeasideBill
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    edited April 2022 #17

    Can of worms frabro……

  • eyebrowsb
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    My advice would be to choose a pitch as near as possible to the dog walk (or site entrance if there isn't a dog walk) as you can, but as long as you clean up after your dogs, don't stress about it!

    Having been subjected to verbal abuse and threatening behaviour from a fellow member 11 years ago because my (then) tiny puppy made the 'mistake' of pooping on our pitch, I do understand your concerns, but please remember that a very small percentage of club members post on this forum!  There are members who are clearly anti-dog, or those who know how to train dogs far  better than the rest of us mere mortals, but they are in the minority.  Most people you'll encounter on a club site will be really friendly and will have no issues with dogs.

    Enjoy your holiday!

     

  • JaneandIain
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    edited April 2022 #19

    Have to say this is a question that concerns me too.

    We have a very well trained Lab (withdrawn from Guide Dog training purely because he couldn’t travel on buses).

    Poo is no problem, as he is used to being directed, but the early morning wee concerns me as he may need to do it as we rush to get out the site. Whilst wanting to do right, I think all dog owners know that occasionally you cannot physically drag a weeing dog along the road.

    Iain

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2022 #20

    Iain, common sense is applied by the club in that they know accidents happen. If you keep your dog close and away from pitching areas, I can’t see much of a problem if your dog wees on the roadway. You can try your best as I described earlier but nothing is foolproof. The next shower of rain will wash it away (or the next passing MH with its drain valve open).

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/globalassets/pdfs/content/uk-holidays/Visiting-Club-sites-with-dogs/

     

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2022 #21

    Understood but when said dog accidentally wees in inappropriate places, despite your best efforts, at least get some water and attempt to dilute the problem. Sometimes we dog lovers are our own worst enemies.The issue here is what some consider appropriate areas. Laziness rules in some cases,

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2022 #22

    +1, carry a bottle of water-if Dog is caught short give the area a good dousing to dilute any negative effects! it isn’t fair to physically stop a Dog that has been indoors for 8hrs+

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2022 #23

    Too right, Rocky, it’s about being responsible and considerate. It’s far better not to give those dog haters the ammunition and more about exhibiting that good example on sites and in other public places. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited May 2022 #24

    Generally, Club Sites are very nice places to holiday with a dog. Most usually have a dedicated dog walk area, or something very good next door, and a briskish walk will get most healthy pooches to that area easily. I find it sad if folks might be worrying about taking a dog, because all it needs is a bit of pre planning, choosing a pitch wisely, and being a good, considerate pet owner. Choose your pitch well, be aware of your dogs needs and exercise ability, carry a few necessities each walk (poo bags, water bottle, etc) and don’t dawdle getting to the appropriate area. Any accidents, clean up properly asap. 

    It’s about being aware of your dog’s needs. If it’s elderly, it needs a pitch closer to the dog walk area. It might need more frequent walks. If the owner isn’t quick on their feet, choose a pitch closer to the dog walk area. If it’s small, pick it up and carry to dog walk area. Short lead, determined walk, not having to wait too long will get 90% of dogs to the appropriate exercise area. Staff know accidents will happen, but folks just need to take responsibility, clean up properly, and not let the dog owning community down. No one should be apprehensive about taking a dog to a Club Site, it’s about being prepared, taking responsibility for that pet, and doing what’s best for all visitors. 

    Sadly, you will encounter the haters. We have, but they are relatively few and far between, and I can only think of one instance in 30 years where anything nasty happened to us, which the staff admitted was baffling. Just be prepared, you know your pooch and it’s needs, don’t give anyone any ammunition to use, and then relax, because in the main, Club Sites are great places to holiday with a dog if you are a responsible owner.👍

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2022 #25

    Hi Skoula, Cancel your booking. Go to a farm site. Fewer rules . Less stressful.

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2022 #27

    Very well put ,cool

  • bronco
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    edited May 2022 #28

    Do the people who complain about dogs, not walk when they are not on club sites.

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2022 #29

    Coming from the same area as you I can only say that things have got much better during my lifetime. I remember ‘no spitting’ signs on busses, trains and in other public places. I remember dog mess all over our town and village paths, strangely much of this white in colour, what was that about? There were no dog bins to be seen either. It’s just that a few really do let us down and when they do they are so much more obvious in their behaviours today. One reason things are so much better today is due to community pressure from the likes of me and you. It was setting the good example and ‘complaining’ that lead to change. Let’s hope things even improve further.

     

  • SeasideBill
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    edited May 2022 #30

    Funny you should say that about white dog poo. Strangely I found myself in a conversation about that very subject in the pub recently. Apparently it’s all to do with dog food ingredients. Time was it was very high in calcium due to all the bones being crushed up into the mix during the manufacturing process. Nowadays most dogs eat better than I do, so we’re back to normal dog poo. Personally I preferred it white & dry!

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