Exploiting the members
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Thats where we have most if our money , in the house ,which since we bought it means we. , well the kids will have to pay inheritance tax
Whereas todays generations seen to not think about when they retire they just spend as if there is no tomorrow
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Agree with all that, it has always been thus with prices, and agree that standard school holidays would be welcome by parents and teachers but it's a little more complicated than one would think. Schools are under the control of LEAs but Academies are not and are very much independent (they don't have to follow the national curriculum for example), past and present governments wanted school to be independent of LEAs and pushed hard with large money incentives for schools to be become academies. A lot of new legislation would be needed and as you say it won't be happening anytime soon.
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We also pick a site because it’s where we want to be. The only reason we joined the C&CC was because we bought a MH and needed more choice, due to not having a car and stoping on 18 sites in 6 weeks, instead of 5 / 6. However, from 2023, if both providers have sites in the same general area, the choice is clear. A big benefit now is, as we only generally stop 2 / 3 days, rather than a week, it’s not such a big deal if we don’t like it.
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Maybe we were lucky with our employment? and the jobs for life? If so wanted ,,I was also retired? at 50, when privatisation was on the horizon
Where as today a job for life is but a thing of the past for the majority
It seems not many these days seem to want a job that means getting dirty as we did
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JV, you demonise everyone younger than you. The Govt(all) in this Country are already pushing workplace pensions onto everyone, rightly so. There is no opt out. It won’t hurt you in the present nor future, we are lucky we got away with what we did the generations now are not being fed honey.
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We are in the fortunate position that although we are pensioners we can afford CAMC site prices. Not that we want to or do in high season.
We are members of C&CC and like others on here find their sites perfectly acceptable. Yes some of their sites facilities could do with an upgrade but I've never found the anything but clean. We usually get offered more than 1 choice of pitch. Their high peak rates don't don't extend for weeks beyond the holiday.
Now that this club has given up their USP I can only find one reason to stay a member and that is CLs.
The overseas service ie booking sites we don't use, why would we. The ferry booking while we have used in the past there are other ways of booking and can be cheaper. I can't think of any offers we have used that would save us the cost of the membership, maybe we are generally good at getting VFM.
IMO this new deposit booking system will not be popular among some of the members, especially when they fall foul of the new 21 day rule. We can only hope that it will curb the book a year in advance speculative bookings we see a lot of. I know the current rules encourage that but it would appear that is the main reason why so many folk wanted a deposit system in place. Only time will tell.
Now that overseas travel is possible once again the UK sites might find a bit of breathing space and those elusive sought after pitches will become available.
It will matter not to us, as we are off overseas to enjoy the delights of less crowded sites, more choice of sites and sites with more facilities for less money.
Before I get jumped on, yes I know we pay extra to go abroad but it is so worth it.
Whatever and wherever you go enjoy the time you have while you have it. If these last 2 years have taught us nothing else its that you don't know what's going to happen next.
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JVB
I am not quite sure where you get your world view from? I have two sons in their forties and both understand the importance of a future pensions and are making contributions accordingly. I was fortunate that I had a noncontributory pension from my employees. However my 30/40/50's were not halcyon days of plenty and I don't think it was until I retired that I didn't have some sort of balance on a credit card, not unmanageable, but none the less not fully paid off. I have been retired 15 years now and have felt reasonable comfortable but I am concerned about rising prices and I can certainly see that this year my income could be going backwards and unlikely to be recovered?
I can't blame the Club for rising prices as they will have to address their own expenses which we have been told rise annually ahead of inflation. If I am in the situation where campsite prices become too expensive the sensible thing for me to do would be to consider whether this hobby is still worthwhile. Complaining that campsite prices are getting to expensive is slightly missing the point, they are as they are and if can't afford them its time to stop and consider other forms of holidays.
David
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Sorry but it seems that you are on your other planet again? Work place pensions should have been mandatory for everyone ,,when I started work it has meant that we do not now need to rely on , as some the government out of our taxes to get topped up
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So you have advised your sons and they have heeded
Site prices will always increase ,as more price pressures from outside keep rising also,
It is the USP of this club that has kept many on fixed incomes using the sites network
We shall have to see when the club decide to really give members the ins and outs of how, the deposit system will work with the ever increasing ages of the UK population and their short turm, cancellations of sites that is needed as with us this last week
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JV, there is no need to be rude, if you can’t converse with respect & intelligence you shouldn’t even try. You don’t like anyone younger than yourself, in fact you don’t really like anyone at all. You are becoming a grouch. Your habit of attacking anyone who disagrees with you is quite wearing☹️
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Whatever and wherever you go enjoy the time you have while you have it. If these last 2 years have taught us nothing else its that you don't know what's going to happen next
+1 there TG
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Last year we, like many others, had a touring holiday in the UK as an alternative to our usual trip abroad.
Initially we looked only at suitable club sites and then tweaked this due to price, location or a recommendation.
One site was in the lakes at Pooley Bridge as our nephew and family were staying there. Our pitch was OK but that's all and the price, in mid July was £30 a night, which was at the lower end of what we paid.
Looked at the prices yesterday, I had been asked for a recommendation, and this year its £42.
I have not looked at club prices for this year, so cant comment fully on the OP, but a 40% increase seems to be rather a lot!
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Fortunately they are both intelligent enough to understand they must make provision for their old age. I am happy to advise should they wish.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for a more liberal approach to deposits within the 21 day period as it would be widely open to abuse I imagine. Perhaps one concession they might be willing to make is to move the deposit to another booking. I fully appreciate that as we get older our health tends to produce more uncertainties but I am not sure this is the responsibility of the Club? A few years ago we were at the Brecon site and Margaret was taken by ambulance to Abergavenny A&E. In the middle of the night it cost me £40 for a taxi back to the site which is just a cost I had to bear and in a sense in similar circumstances it is the person with the issue that will have to bear the price, not the Club. We will have to wait and see.
David
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If that was Hillcroft Park, I had the misfortune to spend a weekend there. I got the impression it attracts large numbers of youngsters in tents and shared pods at the weekend. They proceeded to do what young people like to do - party all day and night into the wee hours. Probably would have loved it 40yrs ago, but I prefer peace and quiet these days. At least that’s unlikely to occur on a CMC site.
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sorry couldn't help it
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JVB, I've mentioned this before somewhere on here I think. There will be a dedicated line of communication for members to discuss with a member of head office staff who think they should get their deposit back. Honestly though, peoples health and well being are surely their own responsibility and not that of the club? Just my opinion.
JK
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It is our own responsibility ,and good there will be a dedicated line of communication? But as said before, the 21 day cancellation is ok by us, but the present system without deposits is at this time what attracts many older members as the recent post and us ,,,was the USP that this club had over and above most other pitch providors,in the UK,
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but that is history now, or will be for anyone making a booking form April.
Time to move on.
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We're all in the same boat, JV, and it’s no good beating ourselves up about what was but is no more.
I don’t believe the club should make special arrangements to pander to older people and the new booking terms, as far as known, are much more generous than most holiday providers. It’s for each of us to work with and around the T&Cs and, as I’ve said many times over the years, not for the club to adjust to an individual's personal circumstances. As you said yourself, it is our own responsibility so now we must go with the flow.
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We cross posted, Corners. Very succinctly put👍🏻
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cant be bothered to trawl back thru all these posts so apologise if this has been suggested before but here goes
i know after 50 years of membership you get free club membership, but what if the club should offer some sort of loyalty bonus for long serving members, based on length of membership and e.g. number of sites on site per annum
This could be a monetary reward so e.g. if you stayed on site for 30 nights in one year and you had been a member for 40 years, the club could credit you with say £100 to be spent on any upcoming visits, this amount could be variable dependant up length of membership/number of nights per annum on site.
As a safety net for the club they could cap the monetary amount at say £150
this money used in conjuction with the current mid week discounts etc could represent a good saving and as those that would benefit would be a lot of OAP's it could be a win win situation.
Just a thought !!!!
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Is it? or as JK has posted recently this website is being looked at still for input, as I have been told so in the past ,it was still being tweeked ,when it was realised that something had not been thought about
With the new system being possibly introduced in April ,there should by now be a lot more up front information about it than what has so far been, or is it like the Walls ice cream logo and new name ,,,,treat the members like mushrooms
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