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  • DEBSC
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    edited November 2021 #62

    Well said TTDog.

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2021 #63

    Oh we have big problems in the countryside too. However we concentrate on these local things and not get involved, or tell  others, about things that we dont know enough about.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2021 #64

    Whilst you are posting facts TDA👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻, I will just let the users of the word ‘Woke’ know it isn’t a put down it’s something to be proud of. The Woke movement came about as a stand against racism & brutality but has grown to include anti sexism, homophobia, transphobia, & all things anti social & abusive. It is the way everyone should be to enjoy a better world👍🏻

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  • JVB66
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    edited November 2021 #66

    But that is where you keep going wrong,   many people have moved from the rural areas to find work, and also get away from outmoded practices that they were no longer prepared to endure

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2021 #67

    Agree Rocky. It’s a word sadly being highjacked as a stick to somehow beat others with, if they don’t agree with becoming more aware of how unfair and  outdated past prejudices and practises now are.
    Racism, sexism, religious intolerance wasn’t something I was ever taught anything about at school, so I grew up not really understanding it. My first real encounter with being considered a second class human was at the hands of South Yorkshire Police, when I applied in 1980 to join the Police force. I got through all the physical and education tests, went along to my “big” interview. Little me and 20 male candidates. Guess who was last one in? By which time, two passing officers who stopped for a chat both informed me that SYP had their female quota and weren’t recruiting any more at the moment, so why not try the Met, they will take anyone! In I duly went for my interview.....needless to say, they weren’t recruiting women at that time, try the Met😡 I had a good job at the time, so gave up. (Had a lucky escape as it happened because steel strike, Miners Strike and Hillsborough all happened a few years later.) Once you have experienced such prejudice, it stays with you. Cannot imagine what some ethnic minorities, etc...have had to go through. The World, in some places is thankfully changing.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2021 #68

    The true “hunters” those employed by the Hunts are a tiny minority who do it for a living. The vast majority of folks who go to hunt are mainly there for the social side, the gallop, the doing something exciting, the getting together. (Many don’t stick around for the kill.) They usually have a very good events calendar, a big social side, and possibly do some charity work as well. It’s not cheap to go hunting, either owning your own horse or hiring one just for the thrill and to say you have been hunting. But a good few of “not rich” folks will go out with some of the smaller hunts, and we often got invited. All you need really is a decent horse, the right clothes and the ability to stay on board as best you can. And you need to know the rules, handed down from much earlier times.  There are a few Hunts that might be thought of as special in one way or another, perhaps because they have historic aristocratic links, and the odd Royal will go out every now and then. But a lot are Farmers Packs and quite small. So folks do come from all walks of life and all backgrounds. Some who follow don’t actually ride, but will get around in their cars or on quads, still out for the social side. Absolutely not much of a problem. It’s the unnecessary suffering of chasing a live animal until it is exhausted, or the unfair digging out of something that has escaped fairly that I abhor. Drag Hunts don’t do it, so it’s perfectly possible to do away with this aspect.🤷‍♀️

    Sadly, it’s not class that drives the need to see something killed, it’s merely cruel individuals from all walks of life. Badger baiting is rife around us at times. Hare coursing not too far away. Both banned, but both still happening.

    Incidentally, and very sadly, there was a two year old little girl who died last month during a Hunt. Bedale, near Northallerton. Something spooked her pony, and she fell off. Even the mildest, well behaved horse or pony will get a bit excited if there are lots of other horses around. Our horse was practically uncontrollable if out with a big group, a real handful. His previous owner sold him because he was so badly behaved out hunting. We thankfully got him calmed down, but he had his moments, both OH and I were dumped a long way from home occasionally.

    Well behaved, but still having fun doing Working Hunter Classes at local show. Look closely, the rosette is a red one😁

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  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2021 #70

    Typically rushed and politically motivated legislation. Easy to pass, impossible to enforce.

  • DEBSC
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    edited November 2021 #71

    Now here is a hunting post I can agree on with you Fish.

  • moulesy
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    edited November 2021 #72

    "Easy to pass" ... yes, because it had widespread support from all sides of the house, including many who didn't have a good word to say about any other laws passed by the Blair government.

    "Impossible to enforce" .... probably true but don't we rely on honest citizens following the rule of law for themselves, or is it truly a case of "get away with it if you think you can"?  frown