CL's pricing themselves as sites?

GaryFin
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edited June 2021 in Certificated Locations #1

It's a while since I used a CL, and really I just searched for one around Alnwick as I needed a water topup, and thought a cheap CL would be the ideal place to do that. Except I can't find a single one under £15.
That's almost campsite fee. I must have missed the news, do CL's just charge what they like now and are there any other options to simply get fresh water fill?

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited June 2021 #3

    GF, it depends what you are looking for👍🏻. I’d personally pay way more than that for what I want. Some will pay a premium for the lack of ‘holiday camp’ atmosphere. The folk who seek out & use CL’s are generally peace & tranquility seekers. The ASMR of CL’s generally can’t be found elsewhere IMO.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2021 #4

    They are independent entities and can set there own fees. However, if you are comparing it with most  CAMC campsites, one of those will cost you £20 currently as a solo, £28 for two. Unless it’s a non facility where it would come down to £16 or £12.50 non EHU. £15 seems reasonable, as presumably you will also want to empty your cassette / waste water and dump rubbish, all of which carries a cost to the owner.

  • richardandros
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    edited June 2021 #5

    Don't know what the OP is complaining about - most of the CLs / CS's we stay on charge £17/18 pn. and we are more than happy to pay that - and some put their prices up to £20 pn in winter, given the increasing cost of electricity, which I also think is both reasonable and understandable. Given that we will be paying £35 pn. at Sandringham CAMC site over Christmas, I think he's a bit out of touch with reality!

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #7

    It is time it seems that many older and on the cheap members start to think modern prices and what modern costs are these days

    As mentioned before we have noted what  Four couples ,all non members think of club prices and that on top of the hire of motor caravans

    They were very impressed ant the restricted facilities at a very popular club site  which cost them £42per night including the £13 non members extra

    So those looking with rose tinted glasses at past prices  will need to come to think modern prices and cost to run Sites and CLs 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited June 2021 #8

    Alnwick Rugby Club £10 a night. Not a CL. Open to all.

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #10

    I did not say it was reasonable ,but if non members are quite willing to pay those prices (check Hillheadsurprised) it seems that those on the outside, think differently to what some members ,consider when looking at pricesundecided

    I was reading an article about staycations, and a site in Wales was fully booked this year with it seems just the views in glamping tents that start at £100per night off peak for four and £150per night in peak timessurprised

     

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2021 #12

    You might need to look at it from the CL owners point of view. Even if a £15 a night CL was open and full every night of the year I have calculated the income would only be around £27000 a year. Deduct from that the costs of electricity (if provided) deduct from that the cost of emptying waste, probably not on mains sewerage, deduct from that costs of site maintenance and insurance I wonder how much of that £27000 is actually left. The reality is of course that the CL won't be full every night of the year, probably lucky if its full for half the year so the economics of running a CL is not quite the goldmine you seem to think it is? Many CL's are trying to add value by having hardstandings and serviced pitches but that means nightly fees on average are around £20 a night. 

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  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #13

    There are plenty of reasonably priced CLs around, some areas are more pricey, depends where you want to go. The Alnwick area is popular so it's not going to be as cheap as some places and CL owners have invested in improved sites. We're paying £13 for our next CL, there are still some basic £6 ones on the list.

  • brue
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    edited June 2021 #14

    By the way £15 isn't "almost campsite fee" at this time of the year, I wish it was. wink

  • eurortraveller
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    edited June 2021 #15

    Problem for CLs in tourist areas  is that the peak season is short. They can’t increase their income by taking more visitors in because they are limited to five outfits,  so they make more money by increasing their prices. Alternatively they give up the five van limitation of being a CL and make hay while the short peak season lasts.

  • RJLJ
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    edited June 2021 #16

    We’ve just paid £30 for a night at a cl, we were happy to and will be going back.  We had booked a club site and then i thought do i want to go to a full site and share facilities for £30 when i can go to a cl, just 5 pitches and individual shower rooms, overlooking a lake for the same price  - what do you think???!!!  Not a difficult choice.

  • Burgundy
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    edited June 2021 #17

    If you divide the £15 by all the nights you presumably have had free, then it will work out quite cheap per night

  • KjellNN
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    edited June 2021 #18

    We are trying to use CLs with few facilities as we generally use our own shower etc, but do want to have EHU.   We have found several with serviced pitches for £15, and others without serviced pitches at £12-£15, which we are happy with.

    Would prefer not to pay over £18.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #19

    CLs vary greatly. OH is stopping on a little beauty later this week. £8 per night. It has all he needs and wants. We very rarely spend more than £18 per night. Usually a tour of three weeks using a mix of Sites works out at an average of £12-13 per night. 

    If you are off to Hillhead AD, best empty the piggy bank. Most expensive Site on network I think. Never been, but supposed to be nice. 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #20

    If you do spend even more of the kids inheritance by going to Hillhead  and get the bus from outside the site to Kingswear ,it is far more fun if you walk to the car ferry to cross to Dartmouth and the chippy just off the car ferry is good

    If you use the Dartmouth  steam railway (lovely journey ) really good discount with your travel card , and it was woth the extra pound(3years ago)in the observation car

    ,Ferry from Brixham  to Torquay is good also a pod of dolphins are quite often in the Bay ,one ferry we got actually went to them for us to watch as they surfed the bow wave

    The fee by hand out of chips in Paignton main road to sea from from train or bus station are a definite to try,,GD and myself had several as we walked back and forth past cool

    Ps I have been thinking the Op on this thread is so used to "freeloading "is out of touch with reality or the thread is a windupundecided

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #21

    We are booked in at the end of September on a served pitch and works out at £26 a night , didn’t think that was too bad for its location.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #22

    Do you mean £36 a night? For two adults

  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #23

    NO, I mean £26.60 per night for 2 adults

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #24

    Not what I noted for a serviced pitch at Hillhead end of Sep for twosurprised

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #25

    i seem to have missed the bit where the OP said he had 'free nights'.

    we have used 3 CLs on this tour...the first £12...in Kent, lovely field, own facs...2nd in Essex, just the same but £16...3rd in Norfolk, again all very similar but £18....which we though was on the high side...

    we used to use a nice CS (other club) in Topsham but 'overnight' the price went from £12 to £25...havent been back.

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  • huskydog
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    edited June 2021 #27

    That’s because you don’t know everything surprised.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #28

    Sure is, have you not got a concessions. on other administrations list, its available on line via the usual contact

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #30

    And you are not likely to divulge unless it is a rally and with vat discount

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2021 #31

    Doesnt sound too bad HD at £26. Getting late in season for some to stay though I guess. To be honest, it’s a while since I had a look through handbook to work out how expensive some of the Club Sites are. I doubt the pool is open in late September, so that might bring the price down?
    We shall be trying out a few Britstops I think in September, one nighters. Got a particular one in mind for going down, have eaten there before, food is lovely, and it’s a cracking location.