Formula One
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If you are correct then the F1 bosses would surely prefer to finish under the safety car and not risk expensive damage to their cars in a mad dash to the flag.
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F1 dont own the cars, the teams do.
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I thought there were three main organisations involved. The formula one group in which Liberty media have a controlling interest. They look after TV rights and all the other commercial aspects.
Then the FIA the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile's. Its primary role is amending current regulations and drafting new regulations for all of international motor sport. One of the main duties of the WMSC is to allow motor sport to: Continue to develop with an emphasis on maintaining safety for the drivers and spectators, and to encourage competitive motoring innovation which adheres to environmental standards. The FIA's largest motorsport championships include the FIA Formula One World Championship.
Finally there are the teams, who own supply and develop the cars.
They all work together to deliver the sport we want to watch, but not always harmoniously.
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Spot on. The FIA, Formula 1 and the racing teams are three separate commercial organisations, all involved in the the thing they sell, the race, but all with different responsibilities and agendas.
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Football has its VAR, Penalty shoot Outs where both teams have 5 penalties,Cricket has its ultra edge,and in extreme circumstances a 1 over bowl off Tennis has its Hawkeye and the Tiebreaker and Formula 1 did this
Yes, I've thought about how other sports deal with what was in a way a tie between MV and LH. How about a 5 lap race just the 2 of them same tyres starting at the same point on the grid, first to finish wins wouldn't that show who is the better driver and car. No team tactics, no radio, just 2 drivers battling it out. Might need a few more laps so tyres can warm up but you get the point. One person should not have been allowed to decide how a whole season of racing ends.
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Apologies Whittakerr For F1bosses, the term was not the team Principles, it was F1 organisation.
So lets follow that theme with what we have heard over the radio and TV cometary, Such as LET THEM RACE etc.
F1 bosses - Stefano Domenicali. (President & Chief Executive Officer)
Ross Brawn. (Managing Director of Motor Sports)
Chase Carey. (Non-executive Chairman)Discussed not finishing races behind the safety car with knowledge of team principles as described in the article, so principles were aware of the situation.
Michael Massi was clearly aware of the situation and carried out the bosses wishes in restarting the race as soon as possible and in the only way possible.
During the race when Lewis and Max were scrapping on track, Toto and Christian were heard trying to influence the stewards decisions to not penalise their drivers, as has been the case over many races.
Toto and Christian therefore were well aware that the race was most likely restarted and therefore the red bull decision to change tyres left Max behind Lewis with fresher tyres. If Mercedes had taken the same decision, then Lewis would have been behind Max on the same tyres or still in front of Max if they had done the swap on the same lap, with fresher tyres.
Mercedes had the same chances to put Lewis on fresher tyres as was clear from the question raised by Lewis over the radio.
Seems to be more the bad decision by Mercedes rather than the fault of Michael Massi.
Now they have refused to attend the photoshoot for the manufactures title.
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Not sure about this Tammygirl. This was not a tie situation as Max was leading the championship going into the last race of a brilliant season where the two main participants, Max and Lewis, battled it out race after race. We had a couple of sprint race weekends and the outcome was clear that the Mercedes was by far the quicker car, which makes the achievement of Max to remain in contention all year something rather special.
Now lets reverse the drivers and ask whether Lewis in a Red Bull would have been able to keep up with Max driving a Merc.
Would we expect the top two teams in the premiership if they were level on points have a play off. Only the one finishing second under present rules would be happy, unless they also lost the playoff. Bank balances would be better though.
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Some nice scenes of Sir Lewis Hamilton getting his Knighthood from Prince Charles on todays news bulletins.
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Mercedes have announced they will not be appealing Sundays controversial result following an FIA announcement that they will be holding a "detailed analysis" of what went wrong and the admission that the debacle is tarnishing F1s image.
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Sky News have just put this on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzUIijcvuw about the withdrawal of the Mercedes protest. Interesting that they also question whether LH will continue next season. I would have thought the LH would want to see how the new regulation cars stack up before making a decision, unless of course, he knows something about the new cars that we don't!!!
David
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Emotions will still be running high so I'd take any such inference with a pinch of salt, however who could blame him if he doesn't continue with the way the sport has treated him and Mercedes.
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Lets not forget the Mercedes still won the constructers titile for the eitghth time. This is the one that really matters to the the teams in terms of finacial reward not the drivers championship. I am sure the Red Bull team would have much preferred to win that one!
peedee
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From what I've read, the new regulations are predominately aerodynamic in an endeavour to ensure closer racing. That being the case, it is to be welcomed. Which team can conjure up the magic remains to be seen. Red Bull's dominance in the immediate pre-hybrid era was mainly down to aerodynamics so will Adrian Newey cast a better spell than Mercedes probable superior wind tunnel facilities?
LH's continuation may depend on what the FIA do with regard to "the rules" rather than any car developments.
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There will also be changes at the top of the FIA next year as Jean Todt is standing down. So I assume who ever takes over will be the person to review the rules which apply to how races are conducted?
David
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A bit of irony here:
So, the new FIA president refuses to rule out punishing Lewis Hamilton for boycotting the awards ceremony because rules dictate he should attend....
At the same time the FIA has launched an enquiry into events of Abu Dhabi where race director Michael Masi appeared not to follow the organisations own rules.....
Left hand, right hand.... article made me laugh...
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It would have been nice for Hamilton to have attended the FIA awards ceremony as it was congratulating all FIA drivers from racing to rallying but I suppose now he has been knighted he can look down on people from his humble start in the profession.
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So the FIA have sacked race director Michael Masi following last years debacle at Abu Dhabi when Masi made up rules on the spur of the moment ensuring the Max Crashtappen won the drivers championship.
Hopefully more changes will be introduced to stop anything similar happening in the future.
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The FIA have not sacked Michael Masi, only removed him from the position of Race Director. Apparently he will take up another position within the FIA according to the BBC website.
He has obviously become the fall guy for the FIA. Had he not done what he did in the final race the FIA may as well just stopped the race there and then. Instead the spectators got and exciting end to the race and the season. LH has been sulking ever since!
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Being removed from your position by your employer is just politically correct HR speak for being sacked. If he is offered another position, lets hope it’s within his competency skill set. May I suggest serving drinks and sandwiches in hospitality.
As for being the fall guy, he brought it on himself with his indefensible decisions outwith the regulations. Good race management is not about engineering an exciting finish, its about correctly applying the rules.
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Well done to Ferrari with a first and second place on the opening race of the season. Plenty of work to do for Mercedes on the aerodynamic performance of their car despite finishing third and forth with Sir Lewis on the podium, although they were almost second a lap off the pace of the Ferraris.
There must be plenty of worried mechanics at Red Bull with neither of their cars able to complete the race due to engine issues and Pierre Gasly’s Red Bull powered Alpha Tauri also suffering engine failure. Crashtappen also had steering issues following a pit stop with Christian Horner stating the steering was damaged when the car was dropped off the jacks, sounds like a bad design if that can happen.
Good result for both Alfa Romeo and Alpine with both teams finishing with both their cars in the top ten. Not such good news for McLaren with both cars struggling.
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Good result for Haas too. An interesting season opener. Obviously RB will sort their reliability issues and in a few races Merc AMG will have sorted their aerodynamics, let's hope though that all those other teams remain in the mix. Hats off to Ross Brawn for the hard work to make things more competitive eh?
JK
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Certainly a dream return for Kevin Magnussen, I don't think he could believe it and his boss gave an interview without swearing, whatever next!!!
The Driver 61 channel on YouTube has some interesting observations on the Red Bull problems. Seems to be something to do with the fuel system (apart from Max's steering problem). Apparently all cars use the same fuel supply system so it is possible that others could have the same issues, according to that channel!
David
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Lots of teams use parts from the major constructors. Last year we shared Christmas dinner with family and their friends, one of who works at Merc AMG at Brackley. It was interesting to learn that Williams and Aston share the monocoque chassis provided by Merc.
It's definitely a brave new world in F1 and it's exiting to see how things develop.
The fuel system shared by all cars is nothing new but it's interesting that RB suffered at the end of the race when all the cars are light on fuel.
What was Max's steering issue which then became a battery depletion ( red lights at back of car) problem. Obviously we won't find out but I rather like the tech side of F1 and the intrigue.
JK
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The new regulations seem to be producing some interesting racing. Well done to Max and Charles for providing a entertaining race and managing not to hit each other. I must say I am looking forward to a daylight race. When we had the first night race it was a novelty but I think there are too many of them now. Not that I am sure the Saudi Arabian race track would look that interesting in daylight!
David
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I must say I prefer 'proper' tracks rather than street circuit types.
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Well one advantage, of a night race, is that you cant see the burning oil tanks.
Agree there seems too many and no comparison to the spectacle on a, as CY says, proper track-Eau Rouge anyone?
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