Don't some people want to have Christmas this year
Before someone accuses me of being a curtain twitcher let me straight away I am not. I've been working a lot in my front garden in the last week or so, rain permitting, so I tend to see what is happening in the square where I live. I tend to be observant as I'm Neighbourhood Watch street coordinator. Of the 18 houses in the square I've seen one have different visitors every day since lockdown started another has had visitors on two days and one has had a single visitor yesterday. This last one was the only one where they appeared not to go inside. These are the only ones that I have seen.
It amazes and disappoints me that people can be so selfish and thoughtless for others. Talking to my neighbour a few weeks ago, the one to have visitors each day in the last three, he commented that no-one would know where he was going or what he was doing. No-one, he said, polices the situation. He has probably got a point with his last comments but I thought we should all police ourselves, not see how far we can go in breaking the law.
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my next door neighbour had loads of visitors during the first lock down .... their kids, their grand kids, their work colleagues, her mum .... just about anyone they knew really. Their excuse was that they believed they'd already had C=19 from a skiing trip right at the start of the year. 🤔 I din't note which days though ....
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I think people have had enough of listening to rules that are plucked out of thin air or made up as they go along. The government chop and change their minds every other day and haven't a clue what to do next. People around here have visitors as normal and I often pop round next door for a cuppa as I am the only person they see. Personally come Christmas we all go round to our parents and we all have decided to do the same this year as you never know when it will be the last time.
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Unfortunately I fear this pandemic will be with us for a long time as people seem unable to take care of themselves and others
I left work on March 16th and since then I have worked from home, no outsider has entered our house nor have I been inside any other house since that day
In the first lockdown I did not leave our garden for 16 weeks, then started to walk round the village, we ventured out in the motorhome at the end of July and have enjoyed several trips away but never going into any buildings.
I know I am very lucky as my husband has done all our shopping but all along only going to one shop once a week
Luckily neither of us has caught the virus and I pray every day that will continue
Until people realise the rules are not a punishment but a protection to hopefully get us back to some sort of normality i fear this will continue
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"Until people realise the rules are not a punishment but a protection to hopefully get us back to some sort of normality i fear this will continue"
Well said, Dawn. Only the foolhardy or foolish deliberately flout the rules, which are in place for our own good. They don't realise what they're doing.
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The general drive of the legislation I have no disagreement. The application though I feel is poor. One example is that here in wales caravan dealerships have had to close sale, cafe, shops etc. Which makes sense. Service centres have been able to work which also makes sense. Not so in England where all aspects have been forced to close it seems.
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I for one don’t believe a word they tell you anymore after the graphs last Saturday.It turns out thar they were based on outdated models. As Theresa May asked in the Commons. “Were the figures chosen to support the policy, rather than the policy being based on the figures.
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Taking the OH's car in for its MOT tomorrow so we'll be all geared up and nowhere to go.
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Up here in Scotland ,in our area, we are not supposed to be visiting anybody, but, as informal carers for our grandson, we are allowed to be in our daughters house to care for our grandson.
So we are there every day this week and last week, and I will be doing various things for DD other than "caring" .
Does it really matter why we are there?
We are not mixing with anyone else, we shop only once a week, often we bring their shopping.
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You shop so you mix with others, Kj. Your daughter and grandson will mix with others, too.
If you and your family are happy taking the risk, so be it. 🤷🏻♂️
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That's OK then.
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There is no ban up here on essential (food) shopping.
DD is working from home and rarely goes out, Grandson is in nursery in the mornings.
Whether we shop for them or not, makes no difference, We shop for ourselves once a week, no problem to get their shopping too.
My point is that whether we are only caring for Callum, which is allowed, or doing other things, we are there anyway.
There is no extra risk involved.
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We also have a son and family with 2 other grandchildren, we have not seen them in the flesh since mid July, we keep in touch by Skype.
We should have been meeting up with them for Christmas at DD's house, but that is looking unlikely to be allowed
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TW........if we were not to go to DD's house to look after our grandson, then she would not be able to do her work.
Her OH is a teacher and now needs to go into school every day, he is classed as an essential worker.
She however is the higher earner, so very important for them that she can keep working.
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Kj, you must surely see the risk. You shop, your grandson goes to nursery, his father is a teacher - frankly, the more you say, the higher the risk appears.
As I said, it's your choice and you have no need to justify yourself to me. I'm only pointing out the risk factors to yourself and your family.
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TW...we are aware of the risks, we are trying to keep them as low as possible.
What would you suggest we do.
Leave her without anybody look after our grandson so she could not work?
How would they then pay their huge mortgage?
Since lockdown here ended we have been allowed to look after our grandson and nothing untoward has happened.
We do not meet or mix with anyone else.
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Unless one goes into complete hermit mode, some interaction is practically impossible. It's just a case of risk management. My step-daughter is a headmistress. I regard her with considerable caution. Contact with other individuals are possibly lower risk but still are kept to a minimum.
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As I see it. looking at a variety of evidence locally, online and in the media, we are currently dealing with a huge range of opinions in the UK .
Some are very cautious and keep interactions with others to essential only and certainly within the rules.
Some keep to the rules much of the time, except for those times when they conveniently forget or ignore the need to follow those rules..
The rest don't care about the rules and think its all a hoax, a con, no need for masks or restrictions of any kind and carry on as if covid never happened.
We are firmly in the first group.
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I suppose the highest risk in your case is the teacher in your family. The same as us with a teacher daughter who moves amongst all ages at school and also an adult learning disability group. At present we only see our daughter from a distance but do some dog care for her and her partner (he's in contact with a limited group.) It's a balancing act for some families.
PS Some are taking mortgage breaks to get through this situation.
It will be interesting to see how Wales comes out of lockdown and if the new restrictions prevent further outbreaks. I somehow think this is a very long battle.
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We haven’t seen our family since July, and then it was a socially distanced day in a park. DIL is a teacher and our 2 grandchildren are in secondary school. Our son has advised that as they mix with so many it wouldn’t be safe to visit us. They live 180 miles away so it’s not a quick trip. I would love to see them, not on FaceTime, but appreciate his caution as we have been very careful mixing and have only had click and collect or supermarket deliveries since March.
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Not selfish just honest, look on all media outlets and there are a lot of people becoming fed up with constant lockdowns and government changing minds every other day.
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So people being fed up excuses the breaking of rules and putting each other at risk? Yep, that's selfish.
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Not selfish just differing opinion to you
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Clearly.
One of us thinks of other people, the other doesn't 🙁
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