Travelling to Germany, Rhine area in October

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited September 2020 #32

    Interesting, I haven't seen that on the guidance for entry into Germany. The info I read was that you may be required to isolate and take a test. What is not clear is that if you travel from the UK to France on the tunnel and then through Belgium without getting out of your vehicle and coming into contact with others would those rules still apply. Coming back to the UK if the same conditions were met then we would not have to isolate on return. If using the ferry then you would.

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2020 #33

    The rules would also apply if you fly direct from the UK to Germany without touching French or Belgian soil. The only neighbouring country that is completely exempt at the moment without any restrictions is Poland. Some restrictions apply to the Netherlands, Austria and Switzerland, depending on what part of those countries you have previously been to.

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2020 #34

    I have to correct my statement above. Limited restrictions apply to France and Belgium. Northern France and Belgium with the exception of the Brussels area are exempt, but it will still apply if your journey originated in the UK because the UK has been declared a high risk area.

    Things change almost on a daily basis. 

  • Dave Nicholson
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    edited September 2020 #35

    Muffinn: We drove along the Rhein gorge this morning from south of Bingen to Koblenz. Campsites and Stellplatz are very busy for this time of the year probably because the Germans, like those in many countries, are holidaying at home and are holidaying later in the year because of the restrictions in March to July.

    There were, however, spaces available on riverside sites along the Rhein but the site we’re on, Knaus Camping at the junction of the Rhein and Mosel in Koblenz, is almost full tonight. Its a great site for visiting Koblenz and the immediate area but unfortunately the ferry from the campsite to Koblenz town finishes on Sunday 4th Oct. 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited September 2020 #36

    Thanks Lutz, guess it will have to wait for next year then. 

    Currently away in Northwest Scotland on site with fantastic views ☺️

  • Muffinn
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    edited September 2020 #37

    Thanks for this. Are there many Brits touring. Did you book ahead for the sites you stayed on?

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2020 #38

    I'm not there, but the general feedback from the ferry companies is that there are very few British tourists going to Europe at present.

    Most people will normally take an ACSI camping card if they are going to use campsites  - they will usually have places for those who arrive early in the afternoon - and the same early arrival goes for Stellplatz too - which don't normally accept bookings. 

     

  • ScreenName44C2AABFD4
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    edited September 2020 #39

    We arrived in Germany from the UK after taking the Chunnel on Saturday 26th September with an almost full tank of diesel by design. We fulfilled our intentions to drive directly to Germany without exiting our motorhome. We switched drivers without going outside.

    We weren’t sure what to expect on any border we crossed, but drive across all of them without being questioned.

    We’ve been keeping an eye on updates to restrictions. So far nothing seems to have changed.

    Stayed first 2 nights at Club site in Eiffel Park (excellent starting point) then cross country on some hairpin bends to Bacharach.

    Looking for suggestions for where to go next.

     

  • Dave Nicholson
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    edited September 2020 #40

    Hi Muffinn. No, we never pre-book sites in Europe, apart from in August. Providing you arrive at a site or Stellplatz before about 4.00pm you will be fine. No, there are very few Brits in the parts of Europe we’ve been in (Italy, Austria, Germany) this year, but we were very lucky to travel over in July before the rules changed. I really feel for the people who had booked holidays and were forced to cancel them as a result FCO advice.

    Hi Screen Name...... If you’ve travelled the length of the Rhein to Bingen and visited Rudesheim then I’d recommend either driving to Trier and driving up the Mosel or drive east and pick up the Romantic Road at Wurzburg or Augsburg and stop off at the numberous villages along the route. There are plenty of Stellplatz and campsites along the route as far as Fussen

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2020 #41

    Whether you drove from the Chunnel to Germany without stopping or switched drivers without going outside is of no concern. The fact that your journey originated in a country declared as a high risk area means that you are obliged to register with a local German health department upon arrival in the country, produce a negative Covid-19 test result and self-isolate for two weeks.

  • MichaelT
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    edited September 2020 #42

    In reality not going to happen though is it? 

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2020 #43

    I interpret your reply as in reality one is not going to register with the health department. Whether you choose to ignore the rules and accept any consequences is your decision, but it would be a bit unfair to expect people in your own country to respect Covid-19 restrictions but flout them when abroad.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited September 2020 #44

    If no one is being stopped at the borders and there is no advice on the website re entry into these countries, about having to have a test or isolation how are folk to know what they should do.

  • Lutz
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    edited September 2020 #45

    The entry requirements for Germany are to be found here:

    https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2020 #46

    I just read on another Forum Germany has put the UK on the naughty step so you now have to follow the guidelines and have a covid test and isolate for 14 days on arrival so looks like Christmas markets are out nowfrown

  • Lutz
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    edited October 2020 #47

    Wales and Northern Ireland were added to the list yesterday. Before that, restrictions only applied to England and Scotland.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #48

    That is where one of the main problems have it seems shown , that some of the general public will try to use the "where does it say we cannot?"excuse to not take responsibility for their actions,as they these days expect to be "spoon fed" on everything,,

    Or as has been highlighted  by recent events by those who think they are above what applies to every one else

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #50

    Your post just shows how spoon fed it seems many of todays society are undecided

  • DianneT
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    edited October 2020 #51

    Have stopped on the Rhine few times and the Mosel which is my favourite with the caravan and you can follow these on my website https://www.joysofeuropeancaravanning.co.uk  If you have any questions please ask have been travelling to Germany and Austria for 35 years.

     

    If I was thinking of going to Germany in the near future I would follow Lutz’s posts as he lives there and has up to date information 

  • Lutz
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    edited October 2020 #52

    We're on a campsite in Italy, just south of Naples, at the moment. We plan to be back home in Germany at the end of next week so if anyone needs up-to-date information on the current situation, particularly in the Rhine area, please bear with me until then.

  • Karmann 600
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    edited October 2020 #53

    just thought I`d let you know, here in Germany there has been a massive sale of new Motorhomes especially converted vans because like the UK, stay at home holidays are the thing since Covid.

    Lutz will probably agree with this.

    this led to campsites and Stellplätze being full up 90% of the time, no booking, no space, we had our holiday in september, 4 weeks long on the baltic Coast staying at Grömitz, Fehmarn, scharbeutz, Neustadt and various Stellplätze and were very lucky to get a few days at each, we took a chance with not booking. This does not just apply to the school holidays.

    Also the problem with the Stellplätze is that you now get people who use them for long stays, especially those situated on the coast or Lakes, which is not really the idea of them.

    Covid at the moment is on the increase in certain citys and Bundesländer.

     

    Personal note.

    I would like to come to the UK to visit relatives and friends, no chance, what with having to go in quarantine, having driven through the Netherlands,Belgium and France How can you quarantine in a Motorhome and where. Not to mention the lockdowns which are now coming, relatives live in the north.

     

    wishing you all a Covid free holiday

     

  • Lutz
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    edited October 2020 #54

    Yes, because German campsites are so full (school half term holidays at the moment make the situation even worse) was one reason why we are in Italy with the caravan at the moment. The weather is the other reason smile.

    Another thing to remember is that if you have visited one of the named hotspots in Germany, depending on what state within Germany you then travel on to, you may be subject to quarantining there, or at least having to produce a negative Covid-19 test result. As the situation can change almost on a daily basis and the requirements vary from state to state, it's impossible to make a blanket recommendation at the moment, especially if your knowledge of German is not that great and you are unable to follow the respective news bulletins on the radio or TV.

  • Karmann 600
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    edited October 2020 #55

    a very good web adress to get actual info which is also used by the Federal Government and Bündesländer is the website from the Robert Koch Institute  = www.rki.de  the site is also in english.

  • Karmann 600
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    edited October 2020 #56

    News just in, in the centre of Köln you now have to wear a mask when on the street. other big cities are also considering drastic changes.

     

    Holiday with a mask? not really.

  • Lutz
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    edited October 2020 #57

    We're in Italy at the moment and outside the campsite everybody is wearing a mask, some even in the campsite. After 6pm one is obliged to wear one anyway.