Time for Automated Site Check In?

DavidKlyne
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edited April 2020 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

COVID 19 has turned our world upside down. Only a few months ago we would all have been happy to closely associated with each other sharing a welcome or a chat over the washing up but that has all changed and many are wondering if we will ever get back to the way we were before. It seems for the immediate future and possibly longer we will all have to get used far greater social distancing. With that in mind is it time the Club started to think about an automated check in. Whilst this would be new in the Club environment there are many examples out there of it already in operation, Eurotunnel being one such example, there are many others. Putting aside the cost implications for a moment how would people feel about this idea?

Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember the Club exploring this idea with members some years ago but clearly it went not further, does anyone else recall this?

David

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #2

    Some won't have a credit card or mobile phone so there'll be hostility by some to a fully automated check in.

    But would it allow anyone in before 12? 😏😏

  • ABM
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    edited April 2020 #3

    It might be a good idea, David, and one deserving of a long term evaluation BUT only if it is out-sourced to a Hi-tech company of proven ability. After last nights debacle I no longer even trust the Date Line and Time-line on here to be correct, sad to say.yell

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #4

    If it means we can roll in after 8pm, I am all for it.

    Quite how Club would check just who is in visiting party, length of stay, etc.... I don’t know, but it can’t be beyond today’s technology surely.

    Buying an ice cream on way in might prove a challenge though😂

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #5

    Separate pitching area for dinosaurs, Jurassic Park😂

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #7

    If i remember Euro tunnel is for vehicles not the amount of occupants?

    The barriers could be timed for hours of site opening ,(as our cc storage)

    A smart card for entry with booking details on? 

    There would still  need to be staff on duty to double check booking details at some time?

    And as any site staff will advise   ,members at this time, rarely listen to/ or read site information, and normally want to speak to the site staff,in respect of everything that has been advised or is in the site information,

    And who will check the arrival has pitched on the correct type of pitchsurprised

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #8

    nobody would get in regardless of time if some one as described pulled up to the check in gate and then could not operate the barrier, imagine the aggro if you now have several outfits trying to reverse to let said person move away from barrier so others could enter.

    Joking aside, think this would be a way forward but suspect you would always have to have a warden available to assist in certain circumstances.

  • MichaelT
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    edited April 2020 #9

    How would you pay with all those club site vouchers people have bought?

    What about screen touching etc, would the warden have to come out to disinfect it after every use?laughing

    I would prefer it personally, no faffing about with wardens, just drive up, ANPR checks vehicle reg number, confirm booking on screen, put in card to pay, drive to pitch.  Could have a fast lane for automatic check in and a slow lane for those who want to spend their first hour on site chatting to wardenssmile

     

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #10

    been on a couple of sites in Spain where this is exactly what happens, although they always had someone in the office to help if necessary, ANPR also allowed you back into site should you go out for day, no messing about with key pads, drive up to barrier and away you go. Its not rocket science.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #11

    I would think the problem has to be considered in two parts. What we might like to see and what could be rolled out quickly when the sites reopen.

    For me the first would involve a smart card sent to every member. It could be a new form of membership card. Payment would have to be made prior to arrival. This could be done on line or over the phone 24 hours before. Your account would then be updated so the card would let you in and out of the barrier for the duration of your stay. It could if the CC wished be programmed not to let you in before 12 / 1. Requests for a slightly later departure could be made by phoning the warden. Specific instructions regarding the site, including pitch type / peg colour, could be communicated at the time of payment.

    The quick fix. Payment by a phone call prior to arrival, with the option of an e receipt. Collection of a barrier card and your receipt if required from reception, on a one in one out basis. Membership card would be held up for examination. Screens in place to protect wardens. Instructions either verbal, or a printed sheet to limit contact time. Barrier card returned to a box ( as is often the case ) on leaving. 

    The only issue with any of this is those wishing to pay using cash or vouchers. Cash would just not be accepted. It's going to happen sometime anyway. Hopefully vouchers have a unique bar code that could be entered when paying online, or verbally over the phone. If not, the CC haven't thought through there implications with regard to social distancing.

  • Dave Nicholson
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    We’ve used a few sites in mainland Europe that have used an electronic booking and entry system. The instructions were clear and concise and we had no problem (even when they were in a language that we weren’t fluent in).  There were staff on site that tended the grounds and emptied the bins etc and presumably would be on hand to sort out problems but there was no need to have close contact with them.

    I’m sure such systems will be used in the UK, probably sooner than originally expected, and its a matter of getting used to them. There will always be a few deserters but most things are possible given that in this instance necessity will dictate the rate of change. ‘There’s nothing more certain than change!’  (I can’t remember who’s quote that was).

    If we can design and build robots to assemble complex vehicles then a a workable and reliable  entry and exit system to a campsite should be easy.

  • obbernockle
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    edited April 2020 #13

    Pay in full on the phone the day before arrival and state your Reg No for the barrier to use NPR. There should be easily enough time before the sites reopen to get NPR installed for the barriers. many sites all over Europe have NPR for the barrier these days. The site wardens would continue to operate similarly to how they do now, but without contact. Possibly an intercomm at reception for the ocasional complication.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #14

    Reg No for the barrier to use NPR. There should be easily enough time before the sites reopen to get NPR installed for the barriers.

    The Tamworth squadron 🛫🐖🐖🐖 haven't been grounded because of social distancing then.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #16

    On the odd occasion we use a club site, generally the only contact we have with the wardens is when checking in & the odd hello. What else would you need a warden for? 🤔

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #18

    The single occupant LVs would complain even more than now, if it was an outfit price wink

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  • MikeyA
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    edited April 2020 #20

    They obviously would but what percentage of the customers would this effect. Unfortunately, in times like these, the priority is to satisfy the needs of the majority.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #21

     I agree ,things will be very different for some time to comeundecided

    One person? from each LV allowed in office at one time? surprised

    An iluminated  no entry sign outside office door as per Xray rooms when one already "speaking?" to site staffwink

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #23

    I was looking at trying to minimise the increase in prices,  that as with nearly all parts of the leisure industry,  as most other industries,  will be in desperate financial problems,

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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #25

    Then as with just about everything that will survive after this, it is going to be a long time before anything ,IMHO will be anything near normal,  other than Essential work/investment, will be way down the list of priorities,undecided

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #26

    BTW, I wasn't suggesting that we get rid of wardens just to depersonalise the majority of the booking in system. What I envisage might happen would be that when you book the confirmation email (hopefully condensed to one page) would have a barcode/ QR code printed on it. You scan the bar code in the machine (could equally work from a Smart Phone) and pay relevant amount and on the payment ticket the access code for the barrier could be printed to allow access to the site as could the access code for the toilet block if that was required. That code might not work unless you were entering the site at the correct time. There might be a small number of arrivals that would need warden assistance. 

    David

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #27

    Wouldn't the object be to minimise the use of key pads?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #28

    If they were really clever they would use a scanner to allow access but in the other hand you could always use a gloved hand.

    David

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #29

    Or I suppose you could use Apple Pay or the Android equivalent, as that doesn't have the £45 limit of contactless cards. Only problem is my finger print recognition doesnt  work half the time, due to all the hand washing.😂

  • Rufs
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    edited April 2020 #30

    All for technology, but i bet the club just simply put the wardens behind perspec screens, put a line on the floor that you should not cross, allow only 1 person in the office at any time wearing a mask, give out printed sheets with info on if needed, and insist on payment by card, that is what most of my local village shops have done and it works, not that i use club sites much, but it might get things up and running much more quickly than waiting for the club to come into the 21st century, but personally i wont be going anywhere this year, dont think it is right that LV's should be touring the country possibly carrying this virus with them, especially if we still have hundreds of people dying daily.

  • mbee1
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    edited April 2020 #31

    An excellent idea but wait..

    This is CAMC who are struggling to get technology into the 20th century never mind the 21st!