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  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #123

    Our Son and our Grand daughter are working at Tesco, (son on secondment from Dunn Hunby) both have been working extra hours to keep up with demand,for home deliveries,  and the extra staff needed to keep their staff safe,  and customers,  by controlling entry to the store, under quite trying at times customers, who seem to have no comprehension of why the restrictions are needed,

    Our daughters partner, and others have been seconded from John Lewis stores to assist Waitrose staff for the same reasons ,he and others are using their company cars/vans to do home deliveries to the listed  specially vunerable customers,,and is still expected,  by some,  to take the carrier bags into their houses

  • marchie1053
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    edited April 2020 #124

    The Nobel Prize winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz, wrote an article  of brilliant simplicity yesterday that really made me want to turn the clock back to pre-virus times.

    He says that the Developed World is going to have to pay an enormous price to restore the Global Economy [which we all know!]. The Developing World has lots of Foreign Currency Loans that mature over the next 12 months or so and their damaged Economies will make it impossible for them to refinance the debts at anything like affordable rates of interest, because of the credit risk of default.

    Many of these countries rely upon the export of natural resources for income, and the market has collapsed, so their fragile infrastructure, including health services, is likely to collapse, causing more epidemics that the Developed World will continue to 'import' in the next Covid 19 epidemic, at a time when we are still likely yo to be paying for the current pandemic ...

    His very bold solution is to rebalance the Global Economy by writing off large chunks of Sovereign Debt ['might as well add it to 'our' [i.e. Global] debt pile because it makes little overall difference to World Debt'], and allow the Developing World to use the Developed World's access to World Bank and International Monetary Fund Special Drawing Rights to stabilise the Developing World economies, build proper infrastructure and move away from natural resource exports. This would raise living standards, protect health and avoid exporting the next pandemic to the Developed World.

    The cost of this proposal is likely to be less than the cost of the Developed World economies than mopping up the mess of Coronavirus, Had this been done 12 months ago, hundreds of thousands of lives could have been saved, survivors' damaged health avoided, industrial shutdown averted, normal life protected, social distancing rendered unnecessary, toilet rolls taken off the Endangered Species List, and caravan/motor home holidays would have continued unabated.

    'If only we could turn the clock back ...'

    Steve

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #125

    I don't know which supermarket your spouse works for but I appreciate the concerns the shop workers have, a big worry for them. I was surprised that Tesco is encouraging people to use their supermarkets rather than increase on line deliveries. I suppose this ties in with their shareholder pay out but it has made me realise that customers and workers don't really count in this instance. People are better protected doing on line orders just now and the more that do might reduce passing on the virus in more confined spaces.

    That said our milkman who delivers our milk three times a week (Milk and More) is having a well deserved break over the weekend. Milk and More milkmen have been staggering around with far more deliveries than they usually do so I'm glad he is having a break from his 2am stint! smile

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #126

    Switzerland is tightening up on outdoor exercise.....

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #127

    Switzerland? did she stray from Austriawink

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #128

    Just sitting down with a coffee after a very stressful morning. Needed to shop for the first time in two weeks. Went to the 'old and vulnerable' hour at Tesco. It was busy, not so much the shoppers as the young pickers with their carts. Impossible to keep the required distance. Moaned to the very lovely check out lady, after I had thanked her for working. She said that no delivery slots available now until May! Who is getting these, we haven't managed one. Not much point having a vulnerable hour if the shop is so full of pickers that you can't move, If they can't stop it for an hour then surely they could reduce them a little. Have to say some of the elderly not good at keeping a distance. Lovely check out lady severely reprimanded the chap behind me for trying to stand right behind me at the till!  How difficult is it- keep away!

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #129

    Oopsembarassed Perhaps she was caught crossing the border👍😁

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #130

    We have been chuckling at some of the “substitute” recipes in the Guardian, and elsewhere. Some of the substitute ingredients are rarer than a baby Panda!😂

    This made me laugh....

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #131

    Anyone interested in tracking the spread of COVID-19 this is an interesting website from the John Hopkins University in Maryland, USA. It shows the spread of the virus worldwide and also individual countries. You can click on the map to see the UK. I am pretty confident that it is correct as the figures used for the UK match the official figures issued each day. One of the more interesting figures the the "Recovered" numbers which appear woefully low in the UK. This is probably to do with our poor record on testing compared to other countries. I suppose if the government gets anywhere near it's target the recovered figure will grow as it will be base of a broad spectrum of people rather than those that recover in hospital.

    David

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #132

    A caravan has overturned on the M5 causing a 2 mile tail back! The police and other emergency services have attended. I hope no one was hurt but I do hope they are fined! Morons! At a time like this, 820 death toll today, they take up the time of the Police and possibly the hospital. Some are so selfish. Stay Home! We don't want you here!

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2020 #133

    Jumping to conclusions which is common on this forum.

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #134

    As they mentioned a convoy I wondered if it was a traveller group Debs, a dog was lose too, chaos for everyone. Maybe more on the local news this evening? 

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #135

    It's been on SW news Easyt, and the emergency services involved.

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2020 #136
  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2020 #137

    Lots of vehicles on the M5 considering we are supposed to be only making essential travel surprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #138

    Not many conclusions to jump to, Easy! Here’s another link.

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/local-news/live-m5-caravan-crash-devon-4031661

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #139

    Reading what has been said by the emergency services ,it was very likely a convoy of "travellers"  , there is also a group of "entertainers"we have seen in a convoy of caravans

  • ForestR
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    edited April 2020 #140

    Just read that Boots are closing 60 shops for the duration presumably those in almost already closed town centres where there are little or no food shops and footfall is now none existent. 

    Our nearest shop a Go Local food shop has also closed this week because without the trade from the children at the nearby high school and two junior schools it seems it was not worth opening.

  • CJDM
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    edited April 2020 #141

    Whether 'travellers' or 'entertainers' they shouldn't be moving around the country.  I know that is challenging, but what isn't nowadays.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #142

     They shouldn't but since when have 'traveller's adhered to the law?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #143

    but it doesn't say anything more than the first link. The conclusion jumped to by many .... here & in the local paper ... was that the caravan belonged to a holiday maker/Grockle when it wasn't

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #144

    Whoever they are, I hope some sort of temporary site is found for them.

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2020 #145

    My wife made me aware and on checking just now seems that three people have been arrested and two stolen vehicles seized.

    I did see comments that there only appeared to be one caravan and another saying ‘it looked like a convoy’.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #146

    I think you mean "they find a new temporary? site"wink

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #147

    No, I hope they're taken off the road to suitable traveller site accommodation or sent home. eg advice link

  • DEBSC
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    edited April 2020 #148

    Not sure how I could be jumping to conclusions. Reported in the news. It was a caravan, travelling on the M5. No one should be travelling with a caravan. Stay at Home or where you are!

  • allanandjean
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    edited April 2020 #149

    I was surprised that Tesco is encouraging people to use their supermarkets rather than increase on line deliveries. 

    It seems that Tesco and others have increased delivery availability however they could never meet the demand generated by well intentioned but unachievable advice to ‘shop on line’. 

  • CJDM
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    edited April 2020 #150

    So, by a peculiar twist of fate, they drove when they shouldn't have done and had an 'accident'.  Now, their previous misdemeanours have come to light and 2 presumably honest people will find out what happened to their beloved vans /cars or whatever.

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #151

    Ooh you've  taken my quote out of context when other supermarkets have tried to extend their deliveries. wink