Member ignored my plight!
I still find this hard to believe.
on Thursday 26 September, around 12.30 I slipped and broke my wrist at the entrance to the Castleton site. I was meeting a friend in her little yellow car, she came to stay with us in our caravan for a couple of nights.
Feeling faint, I walked around her car to get into the passenger seat, the next thing I knew she was waking me up, I had fainted and fallen again on the tarmac.
while she was helping me to come round, apparently a motorvan DROVE AROUND US, glaring at us, and proceeded to reception to book in, without stopping to see if they could help!
After over 34 years membership (11 of which we were site wardens). I still can’t believe that a fellow member would do that. Or indeed, any human being!
Catherine
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I doubt they realised how hurt you were to be honest, and if you were both inside the car, blocking the entrance for everyone else, then would have wondered what was going on.
I had occasion to ask someone in a car only yesterday if they were ok, ill or broken down? Parked in front of zebra crossing, causing havoc, blocking out incoming ambulances. Neither ill nor broken down, just being rather stupid over choice of where to park.
I hope your arm is on the mend by the way👍
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Sorry to read this.
I think the least they could have done was let the site staff know. I think they should have come out to see if you needed assistance.
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No, takethedogalong, I was flat out and unconscious ON THE TARMAC,
We were not in the car.
Amazing isn’t it...
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Hardly the Good Samaritan! However as suggested they may not have witnessed the whole episode and had not realised how serious it was? Hope you are OK now.
David
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I read it that Cath was still down on the tarmac.
We were on site at Cae Mawr, Anglesey a few years ago when an elderly chap in his 80s went down having lost hid balance on a grassed area. In under a minute there were half a dozen people coming to his aid, One went off with an order for three mugs of tea, one went to get a chair. I sat down with the chap and told him to relax and we would soon have him in a chair with a brew. Two of us raised him onto the chair being held for him. Several of us stayed to natter with him and we all had a good chuckle. When he had fully recovered I went and fetched my car onto the grass area as the X-Trail was best suited for access and drove him to his van to see him safely installed inside. He did say that his daughter played hell at him if he went out without a stick!
That and other experiences out and about have shown folk to generally do what they can to assist
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Sadly, this happens in life R2CD, so I suppose it follows that it can happen in the realms of club membership as well.
It seems ignorant and inexcusable but, fortunately such people are in the minority.
Hope you’re on the mend.
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Sometimes it's better not to have onlookers round you so although your friend told you the people concerned ignored you maybe they didn't see exactly what your friend saw. I passed out in the aisle of a busy train to London earlier in the year. It was enough to wake up to see OH and the train guard and a kind person who offered me their water bottle. Others looked on quietly and I was glad they didn't crowd me out. It's bad enough looking up from the floor wondering what's happened. Very sorry you had an accident, don't worry about what others didn't do as you had a good friend with you. Hope you are OK now.
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Thanks all, hopefully helping to restore my faith in human nature. It would have been clear to the new arrivals that help was needed, they manoeuvred their van around my ‘lifeless’ body!
plaster off 4 November, booked at Chester for 8th November, hopefully for a incident free stay!
The wardens indeed helped with advice on which A&E and they completed the necessary incident report.
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As well as the points mentioned above, it might be wise to consider how seeing an accident/injury affects other people. It used to be quite well known that some people would faint themselves at the sight of blood.
We should be aware of the distress that can be caused to persons suffering from PTSD. Depending on their experience, simply seeing an injured person lying on the ground can be enough to bring on an attack - in which case the best course of action is for the PTSD sufferer to be removed from the scene as promptly as possible.
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😲 That’s very different, I didn’t realise on first reading, I would have stopped to help if safe, at least to get further help if required.
Wishing you a safe trip to Chester.🙂
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Sounds like reprehensible behavior
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Hope you're feeling better Catherine and looking forward to your next journey.
Frankly, this sort of behaviour seems commonplace in our society these days and I'm surprised that no one pulled out their smartphone and started taking a video to put on anti-social media.
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Unfortunately some people are just ignorant and rude.
Last year we were walking our dog from the site at Broadway into the town, an elderly gentleman was walking towards us with his dog, his dog pulled him to get to our dog and he slipped on the wet grass.
I immediately went to him and told him to remain on the floor so we could make sure he had not damaged himself too badly, his wife was holding their second dog and my husband was holding our dog.
A couple walked past us staring but neither asked if we were OK or tried to grab the dogs lead who was by now close to the road. I managed to get the dog lead and keep him safe.
Luckily no-one was hurt and we all went on our way but I was amazed at how some people can turn a blind eye to another persons distress
Thankfully there are still more nice people than strange ones
I hope you have recovered from your ordeal and are getting back to normal
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Just out of interest did they mention it to the wardens when they checked in? Even taking onboard Navigateur's valid point (had a friend who passed out and hit her head when her daughter cut herself, she ended up in an induced coma, she had quite a stay in hospital) it is almost beyond belief that someone would ignore someone's plight. There might be situations in some public places where you might not want to get involved but on a CMC site? I believe in France everyone has a legal duty to help at the scene of an accident even if that just involves calling the emergency services.
David
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Firstly I hope you're on the mend, I hope you were not too frightened by what happened to you.
Yes it is amazing that this happens, why I have no idea. Is it that people don't want to get involved or aren't trained to help or don't know what to do to help? I can understand that last part but the least they could have done is inform someone who can help, in this case the wardens.
I think you just came across the 0.001% of club members who wouldn't help, most would if only to run to the wardens.
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No, they didn’t mention it to the wardens when they booked in. I asked the Wardens the next day. If they hadn’t wanted to help, you would think they would have at least mentioned it to the warden in reception.
Thanks for the sympathetic responses.
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Very sadly I think the time may have had something to do with their lack of help. You say it was 12.20 - maybe they were racing to get a 'good pitch' before others arriving beat them to it and they thought if they stopped to help they would miss out. How sad if this was the case.
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Read all the posts here and an awful thing to do to anybody but nobody has said "how do you know they where members" as non members can use sites as well. ? Also you state "Feeling faint, I walked around her car to get into the passenger seat, the next thing I knew she was waking me up, I had fainted and fallen again on the tarmac." Fainted and fallen again so who helped the first time and why did you get up after the first fall or have I read this wrong.
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I could be very wrong but this is how I’ve read the thread:
Catherine fell and broke her wrist. This injury didn’t prevent her from getting herself up off the ground.
She then felt faint, walked a short distance, then actually fainted.
I’ve fallen and broken my wrist myself, and, as with Catherine, managed to get back on my feet without help. I too, felt very groggy after the injury, but, thankfully didn’t faint.
It’s great that Catherine is making a good recovery, best wishes to her.
🌞🌞🌞
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I've attended several accident's over the years and you would be surprised how many folk a). don't want to get involved or b.) don't know what to do (not even the basics).
There is a also misapprehension that if you treat someone and something goes wrong you can be prosecuted which is the case in some countries
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I guess there have been instances when best intentioned good Samaritans have actually contributed detrimentally in some situations. I do not believe that anyone could be prosecuted for trying to help or have been prosecuted in the past when this has happened. Like other countries, first aid and the use of defibrillators should be on the school curriculum, even in Primary Schools in my opinion.
On a side note. Castleton is a member only site but they could have been what some I believe call "off roader" non members who know nothing of the club. Also having driven safely round the unfortunate and parked correctly obstructing no one in the arrivals bay they saw the person up and on their feet once more being attended to by a friend an assumption may have been made.
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Oh, I have witnessed point a) a number of times.
50 years ago cornering at around 50 on a motorbike, sudden deflation of front tyre and I bailed off aiming for the grass verge and away from the bike. Missed the grass and hit the road with the bag on my back finding its way under my rib cage complete with a large thermos
which certainly rook the wind out of my sails. Car comes along, drives round and carries on. If I had been able to breathe I would have thrown a rock.15 years ago a lady in an electric wheelchair on a light controlled pedestrian crossing in Southport. Wheelchair died and people walked around. Unbelievable OP. Fortunately I knew how to disengage the drive motor and told her that help was here. I knew that we were about 50 yards from a mobility sales and she was able to wait there for hubby.
6 years ago in Manchester this time a very disabled chap in an electric wheelchair. Brave guy. He was driving up to people and looking imploringly for help. Did they not see his eyes? People and couples ignored him and walked on. I walked over to him and he could not speak just an incoherent mumble but was making eye movements looking down to his right arm. He had a leather strap around him and I though that maybe the arm should have been resting in. I asked him if he wanted his arm placing in the strap and he was only able to give a slight nod. I placed his arm into the leather sling and he raise his thumb on his working hand and smiled. I suppose that when you mention it I have seen similar happenings Oneputt.
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Thanks again for the sympathy. If they had just mentioned it to the wardens when they booked in that would have been some help for my friend, who is small, like me, and struggled to help me into her car.
i can understand people not wanting to offer first aid, but surely just to mention it to a Warden that some one at the entrance is having a problem? Not much to ask.
We were Site Wardens ourselves for eleven years(finished at Threeways/Marazion in 2010) and the vast majority of people we met over those years were great people, members or not. Very happy memories!
a week and a half until plaster off, can’t wait.
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