How to remove the wind down spare wheel Bailey

bazwilson
bazwilson Forum Participant Posts: 11
edited September 2019 in Caravans #1

HELP

I am stuck I have tried to remove the spare wheel for inspection on my Bailey Seville series 2  with the wind down system.

I can get the wheel on the floor but I cannot get it off the carrier cable. 

the book says turn the holder by 90 deg but I cannot see which  bit it refers to 

 

Thanks

Barry Wilson

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  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited September 2019 #2

    I gave my next door neighbour a lift to remove the wind down spare on his caravan (I think it's a Bailey) It wasn't easy & I'm glad we were on his drive & not a hard shoulder or lay by somewhere. ISTR the plate that the cable was fastened to had to be fed through the centre of the wheel. We supported the wheel off the ground to give a bit of slack to the cable so the plate can be held flat along the end of the cable.  (not easy to explain embarassed)

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #3

    That why we pay for breakdown services wink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #4

    I pay break down company too, but I'd be too embarrassed to ask someone to change a tyre/wheel for me 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #5

    Depends how "active"one is allowed to be as one gets oldersurprised

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #6

    Maybe ..... laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #7

    Was the caravan level or was it lifted up one side as if changing the vans faulty wheel , which would give more space to release  the spare, (we have been having a men's shed discussion on sitecool

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #8

    It was lowered at the front on the jockey wheel to give a bit more clearance at the back. 

    Caravan manufactures don't seem to be able to design a spare wheel carrier that's easy to use. Mine has the tubular carrier that goes from side to side under the 'van. I've had a play, but again, not the easiest thing to work with.

  • ocsid
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    edited September 2019 #9

    I don't know the Bailey system but with the Land Rover it is simply a matter of turning the  underneath "tee piece" in line with the cable. I should add for this the cable has to be slack, plus some and it helps to drop a wheel edge on a block to get your hand safety under it.

    Here, as with the Alko under carrier it could pay handsomely to run at least one wheel up on some wooden blocks or the like to give more or even, the essential clearance. You often having a big powerful tow car already coupled up to do that hauling task! 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2019 #10

    IIRC .... on the caravan next  door, if the cable had been just that bit longer it would have helped ie to put some of the slack you suggest in the cable.

  • Phishing
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    edited September 2019 #11

    Now you have all seen the very very poor designs for thee wheel carriers consider this as well:

    You have a flat tyre so the van is now 4" lower than one with two inflated tyres. Try getting it out now!

    You are in a layby with trucks passing.

    In either case you have to support the weight of the spare to manoeuvre it. Not possible for most people.

    Dreadful piece of engineering.

    Mine is now under the bed. The van is 9kg lighter and I can get it out if I have a flat.

     

     

     

  • cyberyacht
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    edited September 2019 #12

    Avondale had the right idea. Why is a spare wheel not in a well like the majority of cars?

  • Nuggy
    Nuggy Forum Participant Posts: 512
    edited September 2019 #13

    I used to have a 1990's Swift Corniche and it had a small shallow stowage locker at the back of the caravan, as a dedicated spare wheel locker. Why oh why did they do away with such a simple idea. It was just like the car, having a boot at the back.

  • buckmr2
    buckmr2 Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited October 2019 #14

    My Bailey is in for a service now.

    I'm going to ask the service centre to remove the unused spare from under the caravan and it's going to go in one of the under seat storage places.

    It'll save a lot of time ,stress and danger from changing it especially as I can't find the handle to wind it down in the first place!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #15

    It'll save a lot of time ,stress and danger from changing it especially as I can't find the handle to wind it down in the first place!

    Is it not he wheel brace or the brace for the steadies? 

  • BigAL78
    BigAL78 Forum Participant Posts: 2
    edited April 2021 #16

    Just tried it for the first time - yes, it would be a tricky job in the dark, but do-able. A picture is worth... so I've attached some photos (Bailey Unicorn III Madrid 2016). My points of advice would be:

    1. You can unwind the cable further than you think - far enough to pull the wheel out from under the van.

    2. As someone else said: it's handy to have a block to put under the side of the wheel nearest you because you have to get your hand underneath to pivot the bracket so you can feed it through the centre of the spare. The bracket pivots on a lug on the cable.

    Hope this helps someone!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2021 #17

    I had that system on my previous Moho. Right old fiddle. Spare for current one is in the garage. The problem is jacking it up and trying to get the existing one off. I'm not going to get a pit crew job any time soon. As for doing it on the hard shoulder should you be lucky enough to have one, not a chance. Mayday, Mayday, Mayday.

  • figbat
    figbat Forum Participant Posts: 18
    edited April 2021 #18

    Sorry, I'm new here, but can I enquire about the weight comment?  Where does the 9kg weight saving come from - is this the weight of the spare wheel cradle/winch which can be removed if not used?  If so, that's a hefty bit of kit to jettison and something I'll look into when my first outfit arrives (8 days and counting).

  • Nicholasb
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    edited May 2021 #19

    The best solution to this would be to roll it up a levelling block or ramp