Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act, 1960

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  • CLMaddie
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    edited September 2019 #62

    Hi Navigateur, 

    The CL's are for touring purposes only, the vans cannot be left unoccupied over night, be used for work or exceed the 28 night rule. 

    If you believe a van has been there for longer or is not being used for touring purposes please email clresponse@camc.com and we will look into it.

    Thanks

    Maddie

  • Navigateur
    Navigateur Club Member Posts: 3,884
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    edited September 2019 #63

     Thanks.  Another loophole closed.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited September 2019 #64

    Interesting, as vans can be left unoccupied overnight on club sites 

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited September 2019 #65

    It's all in the T&Cs

  • Oneputt
    Oneputt Club Member Posts: 9,154
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    edited September 2019 #66

    Can’t believe in either a medical or non medical emergency the club would take a harsh, dictatorial view

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #67

    Especially as there is one site i know of in the club network that the 21day stay can also  be extended in certain circumstances, so it is very draconian if not allowed on CLs in emergencies

  • wildemere
    wildemere Forum Participant Posts: 68
    edited September 2019 #68

    As a CL owner who has fallen fowl of the regulations, and had my hands slapped , When I take a booking I ask for a name, membership number and a contact phone number. Should I ask for the purpose of the visit?I never have, I also have visitors who visit relatives who are not in the best of health,is their stay recreational ?

  • papgeno
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    edited September 2019 #69

    I'm sorry but you're wrong. It is the Act itself that sets out that only members of the main caravanning organisations can use CLs and CSs, 

    Incidentally way back when this piece of legislation was enacted it replaced a section in one of the Public Health Acts. So although it may now be used as a planning process its genesis was as a piece of public health legislation .

  • papgeno
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    edited September 2019 #70

    The Caravan Sites (Control of Development) Act 1960 was one of the pieces of legislation which was enforced by the Department in which I worked back in the day.

  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #71

    Papgeno, Are you sure you are not getting confused between Camping and Caravan Touring Exemptions. You are indeed correct for Camping exemptions under the 1936 Public Health Act but this does not apply to para 4 and 5 of the 1960 act applicable to touring caravans but it does appliy to para 6 (rallys). This is as per the guide about  exemption certificates issued by Natural England dated 2013. Has there been an update?

    peedee

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Club Member Posts: 670
    edited September 2019 #72

    Approved sites exemption
    This is known as a paragraph 5 exemption.
    With this exemption, your organisation can select sites for its members to stay on, by issuing certificates to the landowner or occupier. These certificates are valid for up to one year.
    Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.

  • peedee
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    edited September 2019 #73

    Indeed Vulcan, I have just checked for updates to the guidence notes on gov.uk and the latest notes clearly state this.

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    "Approved sites exemption
    This is known as a paragraph 5 exemption.

    With this exemption, your organisation can select sites for its members to stay on, by issuing certificates to the landowner or occupier. These certificates are valid for up to one year.

    Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.

    You’ll need to:

    set a maximum limit of 5 caravans at a time for each site
    have a system for consulting neighbours and the local licensing authority (Natural England, or the Scottish or Welsh governments) before issuing a certificate
    have a system for inspecting the sites and dealing with complaints from the public"

    unquote

    peedee

  • papgeno
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    edited September 2019 #74

    There must have been an amendment to the original Act because the Act originally had the membership issue as one of the conditions of exemption.

    I bow to your more recent knowledge.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2019 #75

    I think it was worded that way ,but then as it says the club AND landowners ageement so both must agree,   but then most clubs would want to protect their memberships concession by not agreeing to non members being admitted,