Why are our sites so much more expensive than C&CC

MartynandKym
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edited April 2019 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I often stay at Ashridge, a site I love, nice and small and quiet. On the occasion's when I have been unable to get booked in, usually over a weekend, I often choose Hertford a few miles down the road which is equally nice, albeit the shower blocks need a refurb. 

So this week I started to book Ashridge for 13 & 14 April as spaces were available. However to my astonishment the prices for one person for two nights this week are £39.00, this compared to £25.30 at Hertford!  Sorry M&CC but this is a no brainer. Why so much more expensive when it's not even Easter week?

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  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #2

    Why so much more expensive when it's not even Easter week?

    Maybe because it one of the Easter holiday break weeks for many with schools breaking up 6th April and going back 22nd.

    However to my astonishment the prices for one person for two nights this week are £39.00,

    Did you mean the price for two people for two nights is £39 and if so you are correct.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #3

    You could equally ask why M&S are more expensive than Aldi. 

    Each club has its own pricing strategy and we can choose whichever suits. 

  • moulesy
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    edited March 2019 #4

    We've booked a couple of C&CC sites for our tour in May. They work out cheaper than CAMC sites only because of the age discount. Is that the case here? I don't know either site so can't comment on the facilities at either.

  • huskydog
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    edited March 2019 #5

    The club is a business and as such will work out what profit it needs from each site ,hence that is the price ,either take it or find an alternative, as a well known meerkat says "simples" 

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #6

    Having visited Ashridge and also had a look at Balls Park Hertford there is no comparison,Ashridge wins hands down,especially for a M/Cwink 

  • MartynandKym
    MartynandKym Forum Participant Posts: 39
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    edited March 2019 #7

    No sorry but you are incorrect.

    Its £39 for one person for two nights....

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2019 #8

    Not only the age discount ,but also several other discounts at ccc sites? are they struggling to sell pitchessurprised

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2019 #9

    That is indeed correct. Doesn't seem bad value to me for the standard of site. Plus ease of booking, cancelling  / changing if necessary etc.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #10

    Sorry, yes. I would be paying slightly more than you On C&CC site as I would not book grass. So you have your choice. For me if both sites were equally as well situated I would choose CMC so you pays your money and makes your choice

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited March 2019 #11

    Like you we have chosen to use more C&CC sites this year just as we did last year. 

    If others chose to pay more then that is up to them.

    Why the difference in price is it because the C&CC do not start there holiday period as early as the C&MHC for Easter, in fact in Scotland they do not go into high season at all over Easter so up here its got to be C&CC wink plus I can book a hard standing if I chose to do so.

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2019 #12

    Just looked at starting our upcoming break a little earlier. Can't arrive at our booked CL as they are full. So had a look at the clubs site at Carsington, Ashbourne. Reasonable price for 2-4 April at just under £19 pn. However 5th.April (a full 2 weeks before Easter Friday no less) comes in at nearly £30 for 2 adults.surprised Still laughing!!!

  • Fozzie
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    edited March 2019 #13

    I would have thought a more equal comparison with the CCC Hertford site would be Commons Wood.

    My quick calculations would be around £31.00 for Commons Wood.

  • Goldie146
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    edited March 2019 #14

    Some schools near here start the Easter holiday this weekend, so it does vary from place place

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #15

    Yes and some in Durham don't start till the weekend of the 15th April, and two weeks from then.

     

  • MartynandKym
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    edited March 2019 #16

    There lies another issue....Ashridge is nearly always fully booked at weekends....until Thursday's then miraculously some pitches are available.

    This is obviously down to members playing the system. The sooner the club adopts a deposit on booking system the better, then this ridiculous situation of people booking, for no fee, and then cancelling at the last possible moment will hopefully stop.

    I can't always plan too far ahead so I am often finding myself having to book Hertford instead of my preference of Ashridge because of this abuse of the booking system.

    That should put the cat amongst the pigeons!

  • MartynandKym
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    edited March 2019 #17

    But no toilet or showers at the moment so silly price!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #18

    “…then this ridiculous situation of people booking, for no fee, and then cancelling at the last possible moment will hopefully stop.”

    It’s supposition and speculation unless you have proof. 

    Your circumstances prevent you booking earlier, M&K, but that is not the fault of the club’s booking system. Should the whole system be changed because you feel something that suits you better should be put in place? Should your needs take precedence over those of others?

  • MartynandKym
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    edited March 2019 #20

    Not supposition at all! I have been advised by various wardens that on this particular site, which is only a small site, that this cancellation of bookings is commonplace with certain members taking advantage of the booking system.

    Frankly I enjoy the space at Hertford so it doesn't worry me too much if I do end up there, particularly as at the moment it's a lot less expensive than Ashridge, but it's the principle of certain members taking the pee by cancelling at the last minute that bugs me.

    Don't worry I'm just one in a million. My needs will never "take precedence over those of others"......or will they 😉?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #21

    Don't worry I'm just one in a million. My needs will never "take precedence over those of others"......or will they 😉?
     
    Hopefully not.

    C&MC however have decided to make the most of it and have just about the whole of April at high season, greedy or what.
    Looking at some other commercial sites the caravan club markup for this site during the  period seems quite modest.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #25

    My comment was  “You could equally ask why M&S are more expensive than Aldi“  but it seems to have been given legs. I wasn’t making comparisons or saying there is anything wrong with the discounters. It was simply another example of similar suppliers of products with different price strategies.  

  • Justus2
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    edited March 2019 #26

    I understand that TW, but the analogy for me was a valid one, I think this club has moved to a strategy of let's charge as much as we possibly can. People have noticed and are finding cheaper, in some cases much cheaper alternatives. For some, price is more important. I don't see that much difference between the two clubs, quality wise  apart from being able to book a HS with the Camping Club.  wink

  • peedee
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    edited March 2019 #27

    I always book the Cambridge C&CC site rather than Cherry Hinton. The C&CC sites are certainly not more expensive than CMS sites whatever age groups you are but for us oldies there are good discounts to be had especially in peak season where a number of sites offer 20 percent off.

    peedee

  • Settermum
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    edited March 2019 #28

    I have just booked the C&CC site at Barnard Castle for 2 people for 4 nights in July. The price was £45 cheaper, than the C&MC Barnard Castle site partly due to the very welcome Age Consession Rate which is 20% at this site in peak season. Happy days.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2019 #29

    You can of course use the current system to your advantage if you can't book that far in advance. We do, rarely booking a week or more before we go. So late cancellations are a benefit to us. Be careful for what you wish for, deposits may well stop people booking a long way in advance unless they are totally committed to meeting their booking but I suspect if members have to pay a deposit they will leave informing the site until the very last moment before they cancel. Not sure that helps anyone? Popular sites will always be popular sites so whether a deposit system actually frees up pitches has yet to be seen. 

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #30

    The OP said weekend pitches suddenly appear on Thursdays but anything cancelled on a Thursday would be for Sunday onwards if it was cancelled in line with the 72 hr deadline. If the cancellation was within those final 72 hrs, the club would be contacting the cancelling member(s) regarding breach of the terms and has already told us they monitor the system and contact anyone abusing it.

    Cancellations within the terms for Friday/Saturday would appear from Tuesday by my calculation so I think there is more to the OPs findings that is immediately apparent to him/her.

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