Will this be the end of Speeding Fines?
Speed limiting technology looks set to become mandatory for all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022, after new rules were provisionally agreed by the EU.
The Department for Transport said the system would also apply in the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
David
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As someone who hasn't had a speeding fine ( yet ). I do find that I perhaps spend too much time making sure I am not 3 or 4 mph over the limit rather than watching where I am going, and I do have a reliable audible speed warning system sat in the passenger seat. Even so,on the whole I think its a good thing.
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Aren’t lorries already fitted with speed limiter technology? The speed we see some of these hurtling around at gives cause for concern as regards how effective it will be.
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Most HGVs are fitted with a 56mph /90 Km governor. Illegal devices I believe are readily available which if fitted can override the limited speed. Most faster lorries I think you'll find will be smaller fleets, owner drivers etc. I don't recall ever seeing a larger fleet lorry which has been tampered with... e.g. Eddie Stobart, Tesco, Sainsbury's, M&S etc. and other bigger name hauliers, and having driven ( a small ) one I can tell you its a bit like driving a car with a block of wood under the throttle to stop you getting full movement.
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Lorries have an overall max speed governor. The new proposal is for GPS controlled variable speed limiting depending on the speed limit of a particular road.
How it will differentiate between cars and large vehicles, or towing vehicles, I don’t know.
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Sometimes my satnav's GPS speed warning picks up the road underneath a flyover. What will happen when a few vehicles rattling along at 70 suddenly drop down to 30 or 40?
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My main worry with this, living in a rural location, is not being able to safely overtake, so it will slow everything down to the slowest vehicle!
….most likely giving us caravanners an even worse rap on the way!
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Yes the report I saw said it could be overridden. I take it this will apply to new high tech cars, all this technology? Or does it affect all vehicles?
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The report in the link states our Dept of Transport has said it will apply in the UK irrespective of the pending divorce.
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From the swing arm, however it is a lot easier towing with a trike.
From the report I saw on the BBC in the small hours of this morning, the restrictions will only be applicable to newly built vehicles from 2022, not retrospective, thereby killing the new built motor trade.
Someone recently asked in another thread why lorry drivers, who already have restrictors fitted, feel compelled to overtake another vehicle doing only a couple of MPH less, blocking off lanes. That is the future these laws will bring.
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They’ll have a job hacking into our classic MGB😂
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It's not just speed restrictions that will be introduced but vehicles will be able to pull over to the kerb and stop you driving it if they sense that you are driving erratically, suggesting a drink problem or someone not paying attention to the road but to their mobile phone. Plus there may be breathalyser tests before you can start the car. These already apply in France to bus and coach drivers, I believe (may be wrong but am sure that coach drivers must take them somewhere in Europe before driving). Also lane restriction technology, which already exists in new cars, but the car will be able to control it more. Vehicles will have special sensors to better protect blind spots to aid cyclists or pedestrians.
There was a raft of about 15 or so recommendations that were accepted and will be implemented.
Big Brother is coming.
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Having finally read the link in the OP, it seems a bit different to the report I saw on the BBC the other morning.
Strangely enough the link didn't seem to include all the different critics who were against the proposals.
Most of the technology in the link, we already employ in the vehicles we drive at work, including the "black box" data recording. It doesn't appear to have reduced accidents, if fact according to my line manager they are getting more frequent, only at slower speeds.
I will end, as did the link, in quoting Mr Edmund King AA President:
"Dodgem cars are all fitted with speed limiters, but they still seem to crash."
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Once the system is introduced I wonder if there would be a defence if detected speeding when the limiting system was shown to be active by your black box? They will of course only work with any accuracy if the input data is accurate. I have noticed on the sat nav in the MH the speed limit indication changes almost as you pass the sign. However, if there are as many mistakes as I have found on other sat nav mapping, such as missing junctions, or even roads, this will not always be the case. Plus of course they will need constant updates.
To answer my own question, I would imagine you will still be responsible and that you would not be able to use faulty data input, or GPS positioning as a defence.☹️
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